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Old Mar 31, 2003 | 10:48 PM
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Wheel locks! Cant get em off

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I just bought an 83 Berlinetta LG4

And the guy I bought it from got the rear locks off using a 19mm socket, hammering it on, and ratcheting it off.

I tried to do that to the front wheels...to no avail though.

I tried other sizes as well, but the 19 mm seems to best.

Any alternative methods to get these things off? I have dry-rot in all 4 tires, and the passenger front wheel bead is blown. I need to take the wheels off so that I can take them to a tire dealer and have em all replaced...

-blain
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Old Mar 31, 2003 | 11:16 PM
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Weld a nut on top of it. Then wrench off that nut. You also might want to soak the threads with KROIL-It before wrenching. I have GTA rims and didn't want the weld splatter to damage them. I made a shield out of a coffee lid to slip over the nut before welding on the other nut.

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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 04:09 PM
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As a last resort, the welding idea is an alternative. As for an easier, less destructive method, contact AW Direct @ 800 243-3194. They have a slew of simple-to-use tools to remove all types of locking lug nuts.
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Old Apr 2, 2003 | 06:06 PM
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You can also try cranking the other four lug nuts on, super-tight. Then see if you can loosen the locked lug nut with a big pair of vise grips.

But, if your lugnuts were overtightened to begin with (past 100 ft/lbs torque), this method probably won't work. Try going to a specialty tire/suspension shop (not a Sears or Jiffy-Lube!), they'll have an assortment of reverse-drive sockets meant for that. They have threads inside that bite into the locked lugnut, and spin it backwards. You can buy 'em too, but they're expensive, and you need an impact wrench anyway. I drove away once with my lugnut key on the lug (oops); the tire shop I always go to removed them for me for free. Took the guy a minute.
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Old Apr 2, 2003 | 07:12 PM
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You can go to Oriellys and buy a special tool that will take them off.
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Old Apr 2, 2003 | 09:40 PM
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IF you can drive it go to Sears. I did because my tire went flat and they took mine off. I dont think it was easy for them but they didnt -bitch and they didnt charge me any extra.
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Old Apr 2, 2003 | 09:55 PM
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thanks for your responses

I ended up using a 3/4 socket and hammered it on...had to manhandle it a bit but I managed to get them off!!

Nothing a bit of elbowgreese and a few obscenities couldnt handle. Ended up having to throw away the socket though....couldnt pull the second lugnut out of the socket after I got it off...
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Old Apr 2, 2003 | 09:59 PM
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if u go to pepboys in the tool isle there are these special sockets for impactguns or any 1/2 drive and u hammer them on good and i use an impact gun on them and they take those locks rightoff. it takes me about 20mins max to take 4 wheel locks off. the only locks u can not get off are those gorilla locks like on the import rims.
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Old Apr 3, 2003 | 01:09 AM
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hey man i just had this wheel lock problem my self
what i did was i used a 23mm 12sided socket and a hammer
its pritty much self explanatory i hammered it on but the down side is i could never get it back off and had to drive around all day to find a second one for my set
good luck
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Old Apr 3, 2003 | 07:46 AM
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Ah, so many reasons for not using wheel locks.
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Old Apr 3, 2003 | 10:28 AM
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I run special seven side lugnuts with a special seven sided deep socket on every lug- not just one per wheel No key way problems that way- they are like a standard lug only most people don't have the seven sided socket to steal them. (I have two, one locked in the back compartment in the car and the other in my rollaround for a spare.
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Old Apr 3, 2003 | 10:40 AM
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yes that sounds all nice and perty but vice grips will still get them off
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Old Apr 3, 2003 | 11:22 AM
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Originally posted by matts90firebird
yes that sounds all nice and perty but vice grips will still get them off
You can't grip vicegrips into my wheel lug sockets partner, nice try.

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Old Apr 3, 2003 | 12:47 PM
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If someone wants your wheels they will get them.. Like steal the car. :lala: :lala: :lala: That was my experience, damaged car and no wheels.
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Old Apr 3, 2003 | 01:38 PM
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i had one lug nut sticking on a wheel before the tow truck came to take the 83 to the grave, couldnt get it of in time and boke up a set of rims i payed 450 for, man was i pissed
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Old Apr 4, 2003 | 01:13 AM
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Originally posted by TomP
I drove away once with my lugnut key on the lug (oops); the tire shop I always go to removed them for me for free. Took the guy a minute.
I just did this last week
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Old Apr 4, 2003 | 06:37 AM
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More reasons not to have Wheel Locks.
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Old Apr 4, 2003 | 10:48 AM
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I just had my locking lug nuts taken off a month ago by a shop. They had the special sockets to do the job and it only cost me $40, including putting on my snow tires/rims with new lugs (that I had already purchased). Would have saved me almost two hours and a couple of broken sockets (Sears replaced them, but still...) if I would have just gone straight there to have them do it. I also made sure I have a spare key to the new locks... There's no reason to not have locks on there if you don't ever want to have to replace your rims after they "walk away".
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