what does the yellow zinc plating look like? i got a few bucks in the mail from the folks and i figure i might spend it on my baby rather than food and detergent here at school. lol. thanks.

 

Definitely this will be my next mod, on a side note, jet hott gives a discount to members of this site?


Mike

 

Sorry I don't have a good picture on hand of the yellow-zinc plated version. It is the same finish and done for me by the same vendor that plates the greasable front sway bar brackets and 1LE end link kits for me. There are good pictures of the finish on those products on my web site.

FYI, I'm holding the Group Puchase for the 105021 Steering Braces open until 11/10. Order 105021-GP to get the special $42 price on either powder-coated Gloss Black or Gloss Red.

Thanks,

Lon Salgren
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Are you guys saying that wonderbars only came stock on IROC's?
Cause my 1991 Z-28 came with one from the factory.

 

just installed new tds wonderbar +alstons both fit great /purch on group buy/////excellent price!! havent driven yet taking to exh shop to have new cats inst. after slp headers were installed , im interested to see how much difference this makes it allready had fact wonderbar on veh so i dont think ill see any difference there . ? any one compared stk vs. aftermarket wonderbar????

 

i would imagine the same. there is no difference to the visual eye.

 

basically the same but TDS are beefier (bigger tube) and added bolt of attachment too ! not to mention how much nicer looking that black powdercoat is!
anybody want to buy a stock wonderbar?
i seem to have a spare now
i couldnt resist the price in group purchase w sfc


:lala: :lala: :lala:

 

where ya located? i might buy it if the price is right. otherwise i will soon buy the tds one.

 

Hey guys, I have a problem with my front suspension sometimes. When I turn hard coming out of a parking space my right front pops and feels like the tire slides. Do you think this wonder bar will help that?

Thanks.

 

the wonderbar isnt a miricle bar...something is wrong with your suspension. Check your bushinging and make sure nothing looks broken.

 

mine does too, my suspension is fine, the problem is normal and not a problem, when you are at full lock(turned all the way) you are gonna feel it hop or squeal depending on the surface, but its cause the car wants to drive strait and the wheels are facing a direction very diferent from thatit doesnt happen unless you are turned all the way, right, think of it this way when you are going 50 and you want to turnand the tire hops and squeals, nothings wrong with the car, just not a great handler, nothing new parts are gonna do(not upgrades) this is a momentum variable thing but it still gives you an idea, the car will do what you described because thats the way it is, i have been told you shouldnt to turn full lock any way, not sure why but i do it sometimes any way oh well

 

i would have to disagree. i would think that something is broken, like the ball joint, because that car shouldnt hop. i can understand the squeal at full lock, i think every car does that, however, if somehting is "hopping" i would not beleve that is normal. i still would suggest to look for a broken or worn part.

EDIT: o ya, i think i know what blackgold84 meant by hopping. i dont think it is what iroczrockz meant about hopping. blackgold is talking about going at speed whereas iroczrockz is talking about going slow.

 

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greasing them will help also

 

Yeah, I was talking about turning my wheels all the way to the stops and then it does it. The only thing is, my car did that when it was brand new too. So I don't think there is anything wrong with the suspension. Glad to hear that it isn't just me though. Blackgold you did mean slow too didn't you? I would be screwed if I turned my wheels to the full lock position doing 50 . Just kidding that would be fun for about a second or two though. Thanks.

 

my car does it to but not slow it sqeals for that, i was just thinking like when you are turned full lock and you mash the gas and the front tires hook and they hop, yes 50 miles an hour and turning is fun i lost control the other night while doing it, what ever gets your thrills right
i cleaned off the inside off my rear wheels and painted the drum face gold cause it had a bit of rust that i sanded off

 

I can't believe my post is still alive and kicking!

And yes, I still LOVE my wonderbar!

 

i cant wait to make sweet sweet loving to my new wonder bar that came in the mail today, mmmmmmmmm. what a bad *** piece of metal. you said it was beefy lon, but this thing kicks my ***, black powder coat and perfect build quality, this rules! thanks so much man. i hope to put it on on 11/20.

quick question, do i really have to jack up the car, i mean im skinny and i can kinda fit down there and as of right here and now i havent got a jack, and im giddy, so if you guys say ill die trying this with no jack or ramp ill wait...

















...for a few minutes

thanks guys and big thanks to lon

 

How much does the TDS Wonderbar weigh?

 

just a bit more than my us gov text book, not like front sway bar weight by any means, lon do you have a weight spec, i would say a few pounds, iwould guess a few pounds, i want to say nothing more than 5 pounds.

time for tex gov class.

later guys, ill try and weigh it tonight, itll be in just pounds as i acn use a person scale not a great one.

later

 

whoops i must be bad at directions, i didnt use a lift as recomended, but the car was secured fro rolling, btw thanks for the pen lon i use it every day, the install took my slow butt 30 minutes to do with a socket wrench and no jacking up of the car, havent driven enough to tell any major benifit but i like what i felt on a back road tonight, less of that folding and droping down of the out side wheel of the turn, cant wait to get nitty and gritty back home, we all have those fun fun roads

 

Just under 3.7 lbs.

Lon Salgren
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Well it took me almost an hour to get mine in. It must be defective. I want a new one. Just kidding. It did take me almost an hour to get it in, but that was because the front of my car was a little out of whack. I just couldnt get the outside bolts in, but with a little work (and not to the wonderbar) I got it. I had read about how great these things were, but I thought, "can they really be that great?" You're damn skippy. The addition of that bar did away with all of my steering slop as well as the rut-jumping issue I had been having since lowering the car. I took it out and spanked it a little, but am definetley looking forward to the next Auto-X day now. This thing looks as great as it works too.
Thanks Lon, great quality product at an even better price. I've seen the OEM ones go on ebay for $65 or more. Nothing like getting a superior product for less money.

 

Can't wait to get my wonderbar, it's going in a along with every other front suspension and steering part u can think of, including TDS' front and rear swaybars, greasable bushings and endlinks. Should be a whole different car when it's done.

 

Hey Lon, how big is to big on the swaybar?

My Spohn 1 5/16" is very close at the ends. I'm pretty sure it I get any deflection on the bushings, there going to hit .
The bushings are new, but I'm sure if I hit a bump there going to knock.
I'll have to post some pics soon, but you can't get the tip of a screw driver between them.
No chance to drive her, It's a race only setup & I'm in the middle of some major fabracation on the rear. I'm looking at least a month before a test ride.

Ron

 

I just ordered mine about 2 minutes ago. I'll post up how the install goes and if I notice an improvement. I'm hoping it might take up a little slack in the steering.

 

Cool, thanks for the info. My car is mainly intended for the drag strip - Anything that doesn't help the straight line performance and adds weight would not normally go on my car. But, weighing in at a measly 3.7 lbs, it sounds like it would be money well spent. And I do drive the car on the street quite often, so I think I may have to give the wonderbar a whirl.

Thanks again.

 

As promised... It's realllll close

Again it's a Spohn solid 1 5/16 or for the french 33.3mm.

Ron

 

Thanks for posting that picture and information. I have no way of verifying the fit of that aftermarket sway bar, since I haven't purchased or seen one. I'm glad it fit without modification. If you wanted, it appears you could gain clearance by inserting either washers or better yet, my e/t Improver Plates (TDS 201210) as a spacer between the Steering Brace and the that particular aftermarket sway bar. The e/t Improver Plates are a pair of 1/8" and 1/4" aluminum plates. If you wanted to purchase a set of JUST 1/8" or 1/4" plates for the purpose of gaining clearance, just let me know and I'll put together a package of matching thickness.

Thanks,

Lon Salgren
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just installed my tds wonderbar this morning and all i can say is wow took 20 min to install and makes a 200% difference. anyone who dosent have one should get one

 

Hey how much of a pain is it to get one of those things shipped up to canada?

 

Canada? Piece of cake. I can ship it UPS Standard or USPS Airmail Parcel Post (4-10 days) or USPS Global Express Mail (3-5 days).

Lon Salgren
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So anyone one with a stock on that has put a TDS one one Much difference or not? Should i buy one at the boneyards or buy one from TDS?

 

for the price the brand new powder one from tds i wouldnt even waste my time at the bone yards. lon great very high quality piece

 

Man, after reading this thread, I need hurry and buy one for my car!

 

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I ordered mine last night. I bought the TDS red powdercoat version. I can't wait to install it and get it back on the road in the spring

 

okay you say you can send it to Canada, what all do i have to provide for that, how do i pay you, and do you arrange shipping or do I. I have got permission from my wife for the piece, now she just want to know a total so she can set the money aside.

 

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no just short of money right now with christmas right around the corner. (actually i am hopeing she orders it for me for christmas)

 

I too have one stock, and I am wondering if anyone ditched the stock one for this one; and what difference it made (performance wise... I know it looks way better!)

 

You can order it online through my web site. Under shipping options you can select UPS standard or USPS Priority Mail. The S&H will be added to the order. Payment can be made by check/MO, PayPal or credit card VISA, M/C or Discover.

Lon Salgren
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roflmao

 

okay i just ordered my wonderbar. and i forgot to chose my shipping method, how do top down solutions normally ship

 

I belive I got mine thru ups. Its been over a year ago.

I enjoy mine as well, along with the hatch pull down motor is still working.

 

Mike, You've got mail.

Lon

 

ok..ok..ok

If I buy this for my self at christmas time, i'l never here the end of it. I printed out the web page and wrote down the customer service number.

She says she and my family never know what to get me. Now they will. This would sure beat the hell out of a couple pair of Levis.


Have to be carefull thou. Masive vet bill and my 4th gen console should arrive today. Hmmm have to work out the timing.

 

check the 6th post on this thread http://www.gmvsford.com/forums/showthread.php3?t=741
will that work better for you ?

 

well my wondarbar showed up today and man does it ever look nice, if it was not really cold out i would be out there putting it on right now. just to see how it looks.

 

Hi All,
Merry Christmas,
I installed the WonderBar, BMR STB, and Sphon SFCs on my 82 bird that has a 350TPI motor. The restore project was completed on my 82 Bird back in Oct. The steering on the car is great, no slop and dead right on. The Bird drives better now then it every has. I have one problem to solve, has nothing to do with the TDS Wonderbar.

I'm getting very poor MPG. No codes, etc, run smooth etc, I guess its time to take it to the GM dealer.