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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 02:14 AM
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Dual sway bars [LCA mounted].

They say two heads are better than one but would two sway bars be better than one????

Some Buick's came with LCA mounted sway bars. It just runs from LCA to LCA and there would be no clearance problems. Though if they make one the right width would be the only problem.

Just happen to notice this and thought it was neat.
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 02:17 AM
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Here is another pic. The guy jammed several washers in there tight to stop flex. Though I would box them myself.
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 03:54 AM
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The only problem I see with that design is that the rear suspension will no longer act separately. In other words, when you hit a bump on the right side, the left will also want to jump since the LCAs are connected. I'd stay sway from it, my opinion.


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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 07:20 AM
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ALOT of cars came with that type of sway bar. I have one in fact (not a Buick). I have one other where the bar bolts up to the underneath of the LCA.

It has the advantage of not requiring bushings..... but the disadvantage of having to exactly match the spacing ang angle of the LCAs, and therefore being somewhat chassis-specific.

When the factory used it, they either added a reinforcement (tubes) to the LCA, or added a 2nd piece as a reinforcement.

The effect of making one side "jump" or whatever, is the exact purpose of a sway bar, by definition; since a sway bar is nothing more or less than a "differential spring", that forces the 2 sides of the suspension to track each other... this design simply eliminates any extra parts.
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 10:00 AM
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i hate to be the first to ask this . . .

but why?

sway bars are only for fine turning. we already have very large bars available on our car. tune your handling with springs, then fine tune it some more with sway bars.
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 12:41 PM
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Originally posted by Dewey316
i hate to be the first to ask this . . .

but why?

sway bars are only for fine turning. we already have very large bars available on our car. tune your handling with springs, then fine tune it some more with sway bars.
i could see it as having more drag racing potential then road racing..... no bushings means no flex on launch.

athough you can do somthing similar with stock type swaybars, and even add some preload with rod ends......
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 01:58 PM
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Thanks for your input, RB....learn something new everyday!

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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 07:52 PM
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From the way I understand it, the LCAs on the G-bodies point inward towards the centerline of the car as well. So not only do you have to make sure the width is correct, but also the angle!
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 08:13 PM
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the LCAs on the G-bodies point inward towards the centerline of the car as well
Yes, in fact they do.
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