from what I have read the Alsotn sfc and the Spohn sfc work really good together when they are both installed on a car. I would really like to do something like this along with an 8 point roll bar on a current project of mine and I would like to show the welder how things should look under the car when they are done rather than trying to explain what it should look like. I really want this car to be extremely stiff, this maybe over kill but hey its just money right. any detailed pics of the points where the roll bar is actually (not an overall pic) welded to the car would be helpful to.