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Old 03-20-2006, 11:35 PM
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Have build sheet or invoice? Post shipping weight.

Here is the list of cars I have so far, if any of these cars are yours feel free to notify me and I will add your engine/trans combo. And if you have the front to rear breakdown.


1982 camaro z28 (LG4/200c).......3296 (front 1945 [59.0%], rear 1351)
1982 pontiac S/E (LG4/4sp).........3041 (front 1978 [65.0%], rear 1063)

1983 camaro z28 (LG4/700r4)......3241 (front 1931 [59.6%], rear 1310)

1984 pontiac firebird (LG4/700R4).3230 (front 1938 [60.0%], rear 1292)

1986 camaro z28 (LB9/700R4)......3403
1986 pontiac firebird (LB8/T5)......3002

1987 camaro RS (LB8/700r4)........3106 (front 1722 [55.4%], rear 1384)
1987 camaro iroc (L98/700r4)......3478 (front 2064 [59.3%], rear 1414)
1987 camaro iroc (L98/700r4)......3461 (front 2064 [59.6%], rear 1397)
1987 pontiac firebird (LG4/700r4)..3635
1987 pontiac T/A (LB9/700r4)......3759

1988 camaro RS (LO3/700r4).......3285
1988 camaro SC (L03/700R4).......3249

1989 camaro iroc (LB9/700r4)......3250 (front 1930 [59.4%],rear 1320)
1989 pontiac gta.......................3389
1989 pontiac gta (LB9/T5)...........3363


1990 camaro RS (LO3/700r4).......3267

1991 camaro RS (LO3/700r4).......3305
1991 camaro z28 (L98/700r4)......3413
1991 camaro vert (LO3/700r4).....3425
1991 pontiac T/A (LB9/T5)..........3325
1991 pontiac T/A Vert (LB9/t5)....3455 (front 1996 [57.7%], rear 1459)
1991 pontiac firebird (LH0/700r4)..3117

1992 pontiac gta (LB9/700r4).......3419 (front 1993[58.3%], rear 1426)
1992 pontiac T/A (LB9/700r4).......3396 (front 1975[58.2%], rear 1421)

Here are examples of where to find the information on your build sheet and invoice. Add the numbers together (on build sheet) and you have the shipping weight.




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thats with the t5 right?
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is there a build sheet hidden anywhere in the vehicles themselves? it would be great if I could find one in either of my two iroc's
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Originally Posted by Brisk
is there a build sheet hidden anywhere in the vehicles themselves? it would be great if I could find one in either of my two iroc's
brisk, my build sheet was under my drivers side rear seat(actually I think there were 2 build sheets in my car, i forget where i found the second), but ive heard of them under seats and on top of the gas tank.

EDIT: I believe the second one was under the dash pad

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1991 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am convertible: F 1996 + R 1459 = 3455 lbs.
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1991 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am convertible: F 1996 + R 1459 = 3455 lbs.
LB9 correct?
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3106 total 1722/1384 (55.4%/44.6%) stock form

engine code is LB8
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Originally Posted by blyth18md
LB9 correct?
Yes, LB9 engine and M39 manual trans.
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here is mine.


1983 Z28 700R4 Ship Wt F 1931 + R 1310 = 3241

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Originally Posted by phess11
here is mine.
I dont think that worked.
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1990 Camaro weight = 3267 Trans 4L60E
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1990 Camaro weight = 3267 Trans 4L60E
thanks. and added

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1986 Camaro Z28 LB9/700R4 Shipping weight 3403, I need to get the documents for my s/c, I'll post when I get them.

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Originally Posted by conlinj
1986 Camaro Z28 LB9/700R4 Shipping weight 3403, I need to get the documents for my s/c, I'll post when I get them.

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thanks and added.
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Car: '88 IROC-Z / '91 Z28 / '91 GTA
Engine: LT4 Hot Cam 305 / L98 355 / MR 383
Transmission: 5-spd / 700R4 / 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3:45 / 3:23 / 3:23
thanks blyth18md.. looks like I'll have to check ontop of my gas tank. I've had all my seats out along with the dashpad and didn't find anything before.
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1991 Z28 L98 4L60 SW 3413
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Originally Posted by 91Zman
1991 Z28 L98 4L60 SW 3413
thank you, and added
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91 Firebird, 3.1/700r4
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Car: 1991 Z28
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Originally Posted by blyth18md
thank you, and added
The tranny is a 4L60,renamed in '90 from 700r4.
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Originally Posted by Mitch DoGG
sw: 3117

91 Firebird, 3.1/700r4

thanks and added
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Originally Posted by 91Zman
The tranny is a 4L60,renamed in '90 from 700r4.
Understood. Same tranny, new designation. Im going to leave it as 700r4 for the simplicity factor.

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I dont think that worked.

I edited it.
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Originally Posted by phess11
I edited it.
thanks for the correction and added.
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Car: 1989 Iroc rebuild
Engine: 355 carb'd
Transmission: 5spd
Axle/Gears: 3:08 pos for a while
found under passenger seat

in my 1989 IROC


but not much information

I don't have this information on my 1992 Z/28 either just RPOs


both are LB9 with 5speed cars
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The build sheet for my 1992 GTA (LB9, 700R4, T-tops, J42 rear) shows 1993# Front and 1426# Rear.

blyth18md, is the second sheet shown in your original post called a build sheet also? I have a sheet like the first one and then I have a sheet like hwcoll95 posted too.
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Engine: 305 LB9 Tuned Port Injection
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1987 Trans Am with LB9, 700R4, T-tops, most power options: 3759 lbs.
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Originally Posted by blyth18md
1982 pontiac S/E (LG4/4sp)........3041 (front 1978 [65.0%], rear 1063)
1983 camaro z28 (LG4/700r4).....3241 (front 1931 [59.6%], rear 1310)
How did the 82 S/E save 247 pounds in the rear over my 83 Z28????? I don't have rear wiper or lugguage cover or anything extra. Did they put helium in the tires.
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Car: 91' RS Camaro
Engine: 305c.d. Toilet Bowl Injection
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My 1991 RS = Shipping Weight 3305.
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My iroc when it had a 5 speed in it was 3250 (1930 front / 1320 rear) - 89 IROC 350 hard top, manual window, power locks, ac blah blah blah.

Dunno what it is now with leather gta seats and a auto.
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Originally Posted by Jade Grey
The build sheet for my 1992 GTA (LB9, 700R4, T-tops, J42 rear) shows 1993# Front and 1426# Rear.

blyth18md, is the second sheet shown in your original post called a build sheet also? I have a sheet like the first one and then I have a sheet like hwcoll95 posted too.

I guess build sheet style/layout could have changed over the years, or was different plant to plant? Or maybe what he posted was just a sheet for a certain section/ stage in the production line? Just a few possibilities.
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My 1991 RS = Shipping Weight 3305.
Whats your engine code for this car?
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My iroc when it had a 5 speed in it was 3250 (1930 front / 1320 rear) - 89 IROC 350 hard top, manual window, power locks, ac blah blah blah.

Dunno what it is now with leather gta seats and a auto.
Is this weight via the build sheet? Because you say 350, but then you said "when it was a 5 speed".

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A tad off topic, but that build sheet of hwcoll95's looks like one of the Dead Sea Scrolls.
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Engine: LB9 TPI with L98 cam (Manual car)
Transmission: T5 5Speed/ 9bolt Borg-Warner 3.45 gears with posi
1989 GTA LB9 5speed. ship weight = 3363 lbs
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Car: 1982 Z/28 H.O.
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OK I did some number adding and subtracting using the weight i had for my car after i did my fiberglass pannels and other weight saving tools and I came up with 2982. I have a 1982 Z/28 with a 71chevelle 350 4 bolt main and a 84 T-5. The car has the factory fiberglass hood as well as fiberglass fenders and decklid, I have yet to do my doors, there is also no padding under the carpet or on the firewall. and aluminum heads im sure make a weight difference also. the closest I could figure is the front end being significantly lighter because of the fenders and heads alone, as for where the weight transfer of the carpet insulation would fall who knows. The problem with that number is I do not know how much heavier the high nickle block 350 is or how much lighter the aluminum heads and intake would be. Dead stock my car would of been 3296 because it was the LG4/200c combo as you have listed. I don't know if this is what your looking for at all but I figured I would post anyway....
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OK I did some number adding and subtracting using the weight i had for my car after i did my fiberglass pannels and other weight saving tools and I came up with 2982. I have a 1982 Z/28 with a 71chevelle 350 4 bolt main and a 84 T-5. The car has the factory fiberglass hood as well as fiberglass fenders and decklid, I have yet to do my doors, there is also no padding under the carpet or on the firewall. and aluminum heads im sure make a weight difference also. the closest I could figure is the front end being significantly lighter because of the fenders and heads alone, as for where the weight transfer of the carpet insulation would fall who knows. The problem with that number is I do not know how much heavier the high nickle block 350 is or how much lighter the aluminum heads and intake would be. Dead stock my car would of been 3296 because it was the LG4/200c combo as you have listed. I don't know if this is what your looking for at all but I figured I would post anyway....
Just looking for offical ship weights myself. But the information you provided may be helpful to someone else and its greatly appreciated.
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Whats your engine code for this car?
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Is this weight via the build sheet? Because you say 350, but then you said "when it was a 5 speed".

F and I never said the car was stock That was the actual weight of the car.

Orignally it was a 305 auto car. When I got it, it was half assed 5 speed swap (the guy had the bright idea to put all the mechanical linkage stuff in it. Awesome cause I set the clutch where I wanted, but pita to keep up since it was hobbled together) Then when I blew up the second T5 and clutch, I went to a T56.. Blew the clutch up in, replaced that rebuilt the trans, then had two bearings nuke themself cause I forgot to put a plastic spacer in there. Fixed that, then blew the clutch again. So now it is a auto. lol

Fuxx manuals. lol

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Has anyone found the build sheets in a '92? I've had the front seats out, the rear seats out, the upper rear carpet out, the drivers side door panel out, and have yet to find anything. It is a Canadian built car, did they put the build sheets in them?

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Has anyone found the build sheets in a '92? I've had the front seats out, the rear seats out, the upper rear carpet out, the drivers side door panel out, and have yet to find anything. It is a Canadian built car, did they put the build sheets in them?

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Found mine behind the pass door panel.
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I found the build sheets for my '89 and '91 inside the cars when I test drove them, I took them out before the prep people cleaned the car for delivery. My '87 Convertible built at Norwood I bought used and never found the build sheet in it. and I had the whole interior out of it. Chris
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i have one from an 88 s/e with 2.8 and 700r4 somewhere when i find it ill post the weight or scan it and show it
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Not entirely sure how accurate this scale was, but I drove to a place that sold landscaping rock (weighed the customers' vehicles before & after loading), & got an actual weight there. With my (roughly) 200 lb. carcass in the car, it came in at 3750.

(And I've been shaving weight off the car ever since!)
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Found build sheet in back cubby hole. All options except rear disc brakes, assembled Van Nuys, California. 305 tpi (LB9) 4 spd auto(MD8) 2.73 rearend(GU2) Positraction(G80)GAWR F (2143)GAWR R (2064)SHIPPING WT. F (1975)SHIPPING WT. R (1421)Hope this helps some. Later
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I thought I would revive this to see if there are any more.
Old 11-18-2006, 06:53 PM
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I was looking for this thread a couple of weeks ago and couldn't find it

Got it bookmarked now
Old 11-18-2006, 08:18 PM
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Are all fluids installed except fuel for shipping? It seems there must be something else that is not in the car during shipping because the weights do not match up. The shipping weight plus the weight of a full tank of fuel do not quite add up to the curb weight of the car.
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Quick Reply: Have build sheet or invoice? Post shipping weight.



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