Looking for a good spring to lower my 3rd gen that will also plant the tires properly. I have a 9 second combo that I am moving from my 80 malibu into my 3rd gen camaro.
I took a set of 275/60's to see how they would look and there is wayyyy too much gap between the tir and fender.
(My signature shows my 295/65 drag radials not the 275/60's)

v6 springs for the rear and trick springs up front.

I'll see if I can find some, do you know if ayone is using standard coil over springs in place of the factory springs? If so are they using the 12 inch or 14 inch springs? 150 lbs spring should support the weight..........
Thanks, John

coil over springs on the rear? that's a big no-no with that area of sheet metal being extremely thin. I'd say 30% of thirdgens have busted that area out without adding coil springs and just using standard parts store shocks. Now for the fronts my buddies run 200lb spings or 175lb springs, don't remember the length though honestly. I just run stock v8 non-WS6 style ones in the rear and stock 84 springs in the front and my weight transfer is fine. I cut 1/2 coil off the front and removed the rear spring isolators and used a garden hose wrapped around the top coil of the spring to lower the rears without stiffening the springs by cutting them.

This is what I was thinking of, it's a direct bolt in.

What he's saying is that the area around where the stock shock mounts is very thin and can rip out with just a shock mounted there. Move the spring on the shock and increase the load here and you are all but garanteed to have a failure. You'll have to do some cutting and welding if you really want to go coil over in the rear.

If your looking for the adjustability take a look at ground controls weight jackers, they'll do the same thing with the spring in the stock location.

Actually the original intent was to use the coil over spring in the original spring pocket. The car will be strictly a track car and not see much if any time on the road. I guess I have a lot to learn about the 3rd gen F body, I have always owned chevelles, malibus, 1st and 2nd gen camaros.
I'll check the ground control weight jackers, thanks for the info.

John

The coil over springs only have a 2.5" ID so they won't fit in the spring pocket. You definitely need to check out a circle track supplier. They carry exactly what you are looking for. Any spring rate in almost any length, for about 45$ a spring.

I agree with the above 100%. There's not enough to tie the coil-over to to carry the car. The results are usually disasterous. These cars hook well with the stock type set-up and decent components. If you want to go coil-over safely, you'll basically have to back-half the car.

I am well aware the factory suspension works well, I've been 1.36 already but didn't like the stance of the car. I can weld a cross member between the frame rails and then lower mounts on the housing to allow the coil overs to mount up without back halfing the car, but the class I am planning on running will only allow a bolt in.......I guess I'll just make the adjustment by trimming the spring some and removing the isolator.
Thanks guys for the input, I'll let you know how it works out.

There's not enough "frame rail" there to hold even if you could do so in your class. Imagine welding your pipe to the body skin and having it try to hold up the car. - That body skin is the same material as the "frame rails" in these cars. Now, if you have a cage (I would think so....) you could run the bolt-in coil overs that you're looking at, IF you thicken & brace the rear shelf section where they bolt in. This could be done from inside the car, thus not changing the suspension, just "bracing the chassis" which is class legal for factory suspension.

i'll have to see if i can find the link, but there are people using a coil over spring in the stock spring location, just takes a little modification really to make it work, but i did run across a co that made a kit to adapt it.

well i found one, it is for a 4th gen but i dont see why it couldnt be adapted to a 3rd.
http://www.wolferacecraft.com/detail.aspx?ID=820

where and how much are those coilovers for the rear? i want them for my TA and i cant find them anywhere.

http://racingjunk.com/post/606617/19...onversion.html

Here's the link for the shocks.

I have a 8pt bar in the car and plan on upgrading it in the near future so I'll make the adjustments to the frame rails to allow the coil over to be mounted safely

cool man thanks. now i can really have a nice suspension setup.

the coil overs pictured are from (spohn.net) those are what im going to swap my sportlines for. i live close to spohn and have spoke to steve in person about the strength of the vehicle in that spot and he assured me that the WELD in plate will more then be enough. it is a welded plate that goes around the original spring pocket and all the way over to where the shock mounts. with out the plate he said it will crack out and is to weak. the rear kits from him are 500 bucks for a 12 way adjustable shock, and the 48 way adjustable i think is about 750 bucks. you can get what ever spring rates you want.

Here's a couple of pictures I thought you guys would like to see.