Need some help with a steering problems....details inside.
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Car: 1992 Camaro z28
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Need some help with a steering problems....details inside.
Over the last year or so my steering wheel has gradually developed excessive play in the steering wheel. With the wheels sitting straight ahead I have close to 2” inches of play to either side before my wheels start to turn. It even still seems to have the play while making turns too.
I got someone to wiggle the wheel while I checked out the steering box and steering components. The steering shaft is turning and the gear on the end of the steering box is turning but theres no movement on the pitman arm. Seems like ive got problems in the box somewhere.
Sounds like I need a new box?
I got someone to wiggle the wheel while I checked out the steering box and steering components. The steering shaft is turning and the gear on the end of the steering box is turning but theres no movement on the pitman arm. Seems like ive got problems in the box somewhere.
Sounds like I need a new box?
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Re: Need some help with a steering problems....details inside.
Did you give this a shot?
Originally Posted by J. Matthew Daugherty & Jeff Davidson
Steering gear adjustment
Removing slop in the GM steering box
Part One
contributed by J. Matthew Daugherty
Does your car wander across truck grooves in the road, but didn't used to? Does the steering wheel have a lot of travel before your car begins turning? Generally feel numb on center?
Having a car with over 100K on it assures you that you'll have some chassis parts to replace and some steering "slop" to take care of. Idler arm, drag link, tie rods, ball joints, steering box, shocks, springs, bushings all could use replacing when they're high mileage.
The stock steering box on your g-body has an adjustment that is free, takes very little time to do and requires minimal tools. This adjustment removes slop in the preload of the gears in the steering box.
Tools
3/16" allen wrench
5/8" box end wrench
lubricating oil
Procedure
use oil to lubricate threads of locknut and adjustment plug (right on top, can't miss it)
raise the front end of the car so both front wheels are off the ground
put the box end wrench on the locknut
use allen wrench to hold the adjustment plug at the top of the box
holding the allen wrench stationary, loosen the locknut with the box end wrench several turns
turn the adjustment plug clockwise until snug to remove slack, then back it out 90 degrees.
holding the allen wrench stationary, tighten the locknut, remove wrenches
start car, run steering wheel through full rotation, checking for binding
if binding, repeat steps 3-8, backing out adjustment plug slightly more
lower car from jack (stands) drive car, note improvement!
I was AMAZED at how much slop this took out of the front end of my 131K '86 Monte Carlo SS (factory quick ratio box). I seriously doubt it had ever been done by prior owners.
I had recently put new upper ball joints, inner & outer tie rods with billet tie rod sleeves, 235/60 tires on stock 15x7" wheels, and have much more in store, but this made the biggest difference. Hope it helps someone.
Steering gear adjustment
Removing slop in the GM steering box
Part One
contributed by J. Matthew Daugherty
Does your car wander across truck grooves in the road, but didn't used to? Does the steering wheel have a lot of travel before your car begins turning? Generally feel numb on center?
Having a car with over 100K on it assures you that you'll have some chassis parts to replace and some steering "slop" to take care of. Idler arm, drag link, tie rods, ball joints, steering box, shocks, springs, bushings all could use replacing when they're high mileage.
The stock steering box on your g-body has an adjustment that is free, takes very little time to do and requires minimal tools. This adjustment removes slop in the preload of the gears in the steering box.
Tools
3/16" allen wrench
5/8" box end wrench
lubricating oil
Procedure
use oil to lubricate threads of locknut and adjustment plug (right on top, can't miss it)
raise the front end of the car so both front wheels are off the ground
put the box end wrench on the locknut
use allen wrench to hold the adjustment plug at the top of the box
holding the allen wrench stationary, loosen the locknut with the box end wrench several turns
turn the adjustment plug clockwise until snug to remove slack, then back it out 90 degrees.
holding the allen wrench stationary, tighten the locknut, remove wrenches
start car, run steering wheel through full rotation, checking for binding
if binding, repeat steps 3-8, backing out adjustment plug slightly more
lower car from jack (stands) drive car, note improvement!
I was AMAZED at how much slop this took out of the front end of my 131K '86 Monte Carlo SS (factory quick ratio box). I seriously doubt it had ever been done by prior owners.
I had recently put new upper ball joints, inner & outer tie rods with billet tie rod sleeves, 235/60 tires on stock 15x7" wheels, and have much more in store, but this made the biggest difference. Hope it helps someone.
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Car: 1992 Camaro z28
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Axle/Gears: 3.42's
Re: Need some help with a steering problems....details inside.
Yea I did this method, it helped make the steering feel tighter but the loose area is still there.
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From: Gainesville, FL
Car: 85 Z28
Engine: 305 TPI
Transmission: 700R4
Re: Need some help with a steering problems....details inside.
sounds like the ragjoint may neeed to be replaced take off the plastic cover and have some one turn the wheel, while you watch the ragjoint and see if there is slop there.....
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