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Old Jun 21, 2001 | 12:49 PM
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Torque arm

I have been doing some research on Torque arms and up untill just the other day I was thinking the Spohn torque arms were the best thing known to man, the way it changed the mount from the transmision to the entire transmission mounting bracket. Then I looked at BMR's web site and was totally not impressed about their torque arm,....untill I panned down a little more and saw the high horsepower bracket that mounts to the subframe connecters. Is there any bad affects to this because they say the torque arm is shorter. This transfers the torque to the enitire frame to me this is the best way even without having alot of horsepower. I am only pushing about 450hp but I might be leaning towards the BMR unit. Any thoughts on this I would appreciate it. Oh yeah the only bad part is its all weld in but no big deal.

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Old Jun 21, 2001 | 05:14 PM
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Well, if you're a drag racer, both, the BMR arm, and the Spohn arm will work.

The BMR is shorter, which will increase it's effect on the rear axle. Both units feed the torque into the floor, just in different spots.

If your not a drag racer, and you actually need to TURN, The Spohn unit has a telescopic front joint that not only allows front -> back motion in the arm, but also allows the axle to tilt (relative to the body) freely. The BMR arm has no provision for lateral rotation of the axle and will bind.

Of course, if you have solid polyurathane bushed LCAs, the BMR arm won't add much more bind than you already have.

Hope it helps...

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Old Jun 21, 2001 | 10:39 PM
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Before someone comes in here and denys what was just said and confuses you I thought I would add that is a great solid answer.
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Old Jun 22, 2001 | 01:37 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by QwkTrip:
I thought I would add that is a great solid answer. </font>
Damn, He sounds like he knows what he's talking about too...
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Old Jun 22, 2001 | 01:53 AM
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If you want my .02 than try global west

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Old Jun 22, 2001 | 07:07 PM
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I use the Spohn arm in my race car with no problems. Personally I like the idea of a longer arm. Think of it as a single 4 foot ladder bar. The way ladder bars work is when the axle rotates when under torque, the ladder bar pushes up on the inderside of the car forcing the front of the car up to better transfer weight. Trouble with ladder bars is that they are usually only 33" long and they attach to a crossmember between frame rails or SFC. With the longer torque arm, that upward force is directed farther ahead in the body.

There's a bunch of mathematical formulas to determin the best position of the mount. That's why 4-link suspensions are so popular. They are like a ladder bar but without the long bars. The angles of the bars run to a theoretical center of gravity of the car applying force to that point. That point could be inside the car. A ladder bar or torque arm focal point will always be under the car.

There's also more differences between the torque arm, ladder bar and 4 link systems. Ladder bars are not designed for street use since they bind when wheels go over bumps. A 4-link is the best setup and the torque arm is a cross between the other 2. Sort of a 3 link system.

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