Tbi Gta?
No 350TBI ever came in a F-Body.
Base offerings for the GTA was the L98 350TPI engine, but you could get a credit and the LB9 with the manual tranny. Usually automatic GTA's are either fake or warrantied manuals.
Base offerings for the GTA was the L98 350TPI engine, but you could get a credit and the LB9 with the manual tranny. Usually automatic GTA's are either fake or warrantied manuals.
Originally posted by evil t/a
N0 GTA ever had tbi.
N0 GTA ever had tbi.
personally i can't see why anyone woudl spring all teh extra cash for the GTA trim and niceties and not keep the L98, but i have seen so many strangly optioned 3rd gens that i don't doubt any possible option combo anymore.
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Originally posted by NJ SPEEDER
you may wanna hold that thought. i am not saying for sure that there absolutely were, but it is possible. for a long time people thought there were no tbi formula, trans ams, or irocs. but they were all found.
personally i can't see why anyone woudl spring all teh extra cash for the GTA trim and niceties and not keep the L98, but i have seen so many strangly optioned 3rd gens that i don't doubt any possible option combo anymore.
later
tim
you may wanna hold that thought. i am not saying for sure that there absolutely were, but it is possible. for a long time people thought there were no tbi formula, trans ams, or irocs. but they were all found.
personally i can't see why anyone woudl spring all teh extra cash for the GTA trim and niceties and not keep the L98, but i have seen so many strangly optioned 3rd gens that i don't doubt any possible option combo anymore.
later
tim
The most accurate internet source on GTA's:
http://www.gtasourcepage.com
Read this page, it'll tell you what to look for to see if its a real GTA or not (if you wanted a GTA):
http://www.gtasourcepage.com/Authentication.html
"The engine code (digit #8) can throw up a red flag immediately if you look; all GTAs were equipped with TPI engines from the factory, so look for either the "F" (5.0L) or "8" (5.7L) codes."
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Originally posted by iroc22
Base offerings for the GTA was the L98 350TPI engine, but you could get a credit and the LB9 with the manual tranny. Usually automatic GTA's are either fake or warrantied manuals.
Base offerings for the GTA was the L98 350TPI engine, but you could get a credit and the LB9 with the manual tranny. Usually automatic GTA's are either fake or warrantied manuals.
All the other years show the same production breackdown with the exception of 1989 where 366 LB9's were made as was 366 5 speeds - probrobly due to the fact that in 1989 the L98 with t-tops combo was very common and easy to get/order where as in other years it was near impossible to get t-tops with the L98(impossible to the point where I have never seen or owned one,and I have had over a dozen 87-89 GTA's)
Steve
Originally posted by NJ SPEEDER
you may wanna hold that thought. i am not saying for sure that there absolutely were, but it is possible. for a long time people thought there were no tbi formula, trans ams, or irocs. but they were all found.
personally i can't see why anyone woudl spring all teh extra cash for the GTA trim and niceties and not keep the L98, but i have seen so many strangly optioned 3rd gens that i don't doubt any possible option combo anymore.
later
tim
you may wanna hold that thought. i am not saying for sure that there absolutely were, but it is possible. for a long time people thought there were no tbi formula, trans ams, or irocs. but they were all found.
personally i can't see why anyone woudl spring all teh extra cash for the GTA trim and niceties and not keep the L98, but i have seen so many strangly optioned 3rd gens that i don't doubt any possible option combo anymore.
later
tim
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Originally posted by TBI305Camaro
I see someone likes their Turbo TA's
I see someone likes their Turbo TA's

But I guess it's better than being an alcaholic or on drugs or what not.... at least thats what I keep telling myself
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Well the best answer is there shouldn`t be any TBI GTA`s but they are, and I have seen one! In fact it was the first bird that I wanted to buy.
THIS WAS FOR REAL & I`M NOT JOKING I know very well all the firebird`s facts and info, I`m like walking Firebird encyclopedia still growing.
So I was amazed when the seller lifted the hood. I saw TBI.
The car was a black Trans Am GTA from 1991. I have seen the invoice and all papers the car was bought new from the dealer.
This is true! I`m not joking.
To prove the theory that every combo is possible let`s see for example 5,7 liter 3 gen Fbodies with t-tops whereas they should all have hardtops with L98 engine! Or the 1991-1992 Firehawk Formulas should be red and not all of them are! Not to mention the last Firehawk which is Trans am not Formula.
Best regards
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1989 Firebird Formula 305 TBI ( modified )
dynoed at 330 hp.
not my last word
aiming for 350+
THIS WAS FOR REAL & I`M NOT JOKING I know very well all the firebird`s facts and info, I`m like walking Firebird encyclopedia still growing.
So I was amazed when the seller lifted the hood. I saw TBI.
The car was a black Trans Am GTA from 1991. I have seen the invoice and all papers the car was bought new from the dealer.
This is true! I`m not joking.
To prove the theory that every combo is possible let`s see for example 5,7 liter 3 gen Fbodies with t-tops whereas they should all have hardtops with L98 engine! Or the 1991-1992 Firehawk Formulas should be red and not all of them are! Not to mention the last Firehawk which is Trans am not Formula.
Best regards
Faceman
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1989 Firebird Formula 305 TBI ( modified )
dynoed at 330 hp.
not my last word
aiming for 350+
Originally posted by Faceman
Well the best answer is there shouldn`t be any TBI GTA`s but they are, and I have seen one! In fact it was the first bird that I wanted to buy.
THIS WAS FOR REAL & I`M NOT JOKING I know very well all the firebird`s facts and info, I`m like walking Firebird encyclopedia still growing.
So I was amazed when the seller lifted the hood. I saw TBI.
The car was a black Trans Am GTA from 1991. I have seen the invoice and all papers the car was bought new from the dealer.
This is true! I`m not joking.
To prove the theory that every combo is possible let`s see for example 5,7 liter 3 gen Fbodies with t-tops whereas they should all have hardtops with L98 engine! Or the 1991-1992 Firehawk Formulas should be red and not all of them are! Not to mention the last Firehawk which is Trans am not Formula.
Best regards
Faceman
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1989 Firebird Formula 305 TBI ( modified )
dynoed at 330 hp.
not my last word
aiming for 350+
Well the best answer is there shouldn`t be any TBI GTA`s but they are, and I have seen one! In fact it was the first bird that I wanted to buy.
THIS WAS FOR REAL & I`M NOT JOKING I know very well all the firebird`s facts and info, I`m like walking Firebird encyclopedia still growing.
So I was amazed when the seller lifted the hood. I saw TBI.
The car was a black Trans Am GTA from 1991. I have seen the invoice and all papers the car was bought new from the dealer.
This is true! I`m not joking.
To prove the theory that every combo is possible let`s see for example 5,7 liter 3 gen Fbodies with t-tops whereas they should all have hardtops with L98 engine! Or the 1991-1992 Firehawk Formulas should be red and not all of them are! Not to mention the last Firehawk which is Trans am not Formula.
Best regards
Faceman
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1989 Firebird Formula 305 TBI ( modified )
dynoed at 330 hp.
not my last word
aiming for 350+
Dude you are full of ****. Everyone already knew from day one that there all Firehawks werent RED and that L98s could be had with ttops , but there were NO TBI GTAs EVER. The all had TPI
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ok,real quick math here
1988:
2,852 LB9 GTA's made
6,913 L98 GTA's made
9,765 total GTA's made
1989:
366 LB9 GTA's made
6,554 L98 GTA's made
1,550 LC2 GTA's made
8,470 total GTA's made
1990:
289 LB9 GTA's made
595 L98 GTA's made
884 total GTA's made
1991:
714 LB9 GTA's made
1,321 L98 GTA's made
2,035 total GTA's made
1992:
82 LB9 GTA's made
144 L98 GTA's made
226 total GTA's made
Now as you can clearly see there were never any TBI GTA's made,and the one you saw(a 1991)was a fake,as in a T/A that someone made into a GTA or,the other possibility is your not bright enough to tell the difference.
I'm sorry for being rude but this has to be the dumbest question I've ever heard and the answers are even worse,people are trying to say "well it could happen".No is the simple answer because the GTA was the top of the line Firebird,why would they put a bottom of the barrel low performance motor in it?
Steve
1988:
2,852 LB9 GTA's made
6,913 L98 GTA's made
9,765 total GTA's made
1989:
366 LB9 GTA's made
6,554 L98 GTA's made
1,550 LC2 GTA's made
8,470 total GTA's made
1990:
289 LB9 GTA's made
595 L98 GTA's made
884 total GTA's made
1991:
714 LB9 GTA's made
1,321 L98 GTA's made
2,035 total GTA's made
1992:
82 LB9 GTA's made
144 L98 GTA's made
226 total GTA's made
Now as you can clearly see there were never any TBI GTA's made,and the one you saw(a 1991)was a fake,as in a T/A that someone made into a GTA or,the other possibility is your not bright enough to tell the difference.
I'm sorry for being rude but this has to be the dumbest question I've ever heard and the answers are even worse,people are trying to say "well it could happen".No is the simple answer because the GTA was the top of the line Firebird,why would they put a bottom of the barrel low performance motor in it?
Steve
Originally posted by TTA850
Now as you can clearly see there were never any TBI GTA's made,and the one you saw(a 1991)was a fake,as in a T/A that someone made into a GTA or,the other possibility is your not bright enough to tell the difference.
Steve
Now as you can clearly see there were never any TBI GTA's made,and the one you saw(a 1991)was a fake,as in a T/A that someone made into a GTA or,the other possibility is your not bright enough to tell the difference.
Steve
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so faceman, how could u tell it was a GTA, what did u see that made you think it was a GTA? by the badging? 
I'm still laughing at "all 91-92 firehawks were red" comment

I'm still laughing at "all 91-92 firehawks were red" comment
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I can describe the vehicle I saw:
It had GTA badging everywhere it should have of course.
it had gold diamond spoke 16" wheels
it had camel tan leather interior.
It had 140 mph speedometer.
It was written on the invoice that it was Trans Am GTA 5,0 liter.
The owner was rather old and I don`t think that he was playing in "swapping the motor" game. In fact in our country it would be very difficult to swap one.
And I`m sure that it was TBI under the hood. I don`t know what do you think but I believe my eyes and I know what I saw. I don`t know what was TBI doing out there but it was TBI.
And I would like to state that I know how GTA looks because a friend of mine has white `88 GTA, with 5,7 TPI / camel interior.
And another friend has `91 red ( used to be pewter metallic -rare color) GTA 5,7 TPI so GTA`s are more common than Formula in Poland.
And they`re too heavy to do the job 
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It had GTA badging everywhere it should have of course.
it had gold diamond spoke 16" wheels
it had camel tan leather interior.
It had 140 mph speedometer.
It was written on the invoice that it was Trans Am GTA 5,0 liter.
The owner was rather old and I don`t think that he was playing in "swapping the motor" game. In fact in our country it would be very difficult to swap one.
And I`m sure that it was TBI under the hood. I don`t know what do you think but I believe my eyes and I know what I saw. I don`t know what was TBI doing out there but it was TBI.
And I would like to state that I know how GTA looks because a friend of mine has white `88 GTA, with 5,7 TPI / camel interior.
And another friend has `91 red ( used to be pewter metallic -rare color) GTA 5,7 TPI so GTA`s are more common than Formula in Poland.
And they`re too heavy to do the job 
Best regards
Faceman
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