Whos got the fastest TBI 305 setup on the board? Gotta be in a thirdgen...
Post dyno for Fwhp and Rwhp w/ 1/4 mile times!
-Nick

 

That has to be njspeeder his 305 tbi does 14.20s. That would smoke a 350 tpi car. If my motor didn't have so many miles I would do what he did. But I'm saving for a ZZ4 swap.

 

With my NOS on plus the PCM chip I plan on getting I should break into the 13's NO PROBLEM, don't you think? I should take her to the track....

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1992 Camaro RS 5.0L
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Performance mods
120 HP NOS kit
Flowmaster cat-back exhaust
Hedman street headers
SLP cold air kit
MSD 6A ignition

Audio
Sony Xplod CDX-M610 head unit
Pioneer 2-way 4x6 front speakers
Pioneer 3-way 6x9 rear speakers
12 inch Pioneer VCCS PRO subwoofer
QLogic sealed box
Kicker ZR360 amplifier

Other
Macewen White Faced Gauges
Window Tint

 

camaroracer19992 has run 13.21. All I know is he has 125 hp of nos and 3.73 posi gears, his other mods he wont tell me.

 

I think my brother will have the fastes 305 TBI ever. Should be in the 13's

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89 Trans Am Turbo 3.8L All stock 43,000 miles #1053 of 1555

Past Thirdgen:
86 Trans Am w/ built 355TPI with SLP goodies and too much other stuff to List. One sweet *** car, wish I would have had a good enough Job to pay insurance on three cars so I could keep it, but for a 89 Turbo Trans Am w/ Low miles, I think I made the right choice!

 

stay tuned kids. my car is about to get a little quicker. i just ordered the stuff to fix my rear and stuff in some new shiney 4.10's
maybe we should qualify this discussion into power adder and non power adder. the nitrous guys are all pretty fast, hell camaroracer1992 is on the brink of being in the 12's with just a little more work.
i will be better soon. as soon as the rear is all straight i will install another, better prepared TB and throw in the cam. then we will see what is up.

lata
tim

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91 Camaro RS-LO3,Auto.
14.209@95.46mph
Best 60' 1.917
Check Out The East Coast F-Body Nationals Home Page
www.geocities.com/njspeeder

My MAFB.ORG Home Page
www.mycar.net/mafb/registry/detail.cfm?id=299

DSI Racing Home Page
www.geocities.com/foff667

 

13.21 @ 101.86 mph best with a best 60' of 1.742. By the East Coast Nats I will have my car in the high 12's because of some suspension mods and some more engine work.

 

Guys, come on, only 305s? Darn, I'm out. Anyways...what is Fwhp on a thirdgen? lol

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, Jon (350 TBI!)
91 Red My website

 

Could that mean flywheel HP or is it a front wheel drive that was meant for ***** shores?

Steve

 

Well I'm getting there.

Mike

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Car:
92 Formula
Stock 305 TBI and 700R4 trans
Mods:
7psi Paxton
Edelbrock Coated headers, high flow cat, Flowmaster catback
SLP takeoff posi, GM 3.42's
Nitto Drag Radials (245/50/16) on ARE road racing rims (8lbs lighter each)

Best 1/4 mile - 14.421 @95.96 w/a 1.983 60'

[This message has been edited by Blown 305 TBI (edited June 12, 2001).]

 

Mike, you need to do something about those stock heads. You can keep the cam but get some 1.6 rockers. Are you still running stock intake manifold? With a supercharger and a few GOOD mods you should be into the 13's. Do you have a custom eprom burned etc.?

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, Jon (350 TBI!)
91 Red My website

 

Jon, I know I need to do something about these crappy @ss heads. I've got an LT1 cam going in within the next couple weeks, and in a month or so I'm getting a 2500 stall with a shift kit, that should get me into the 13's pretty easily. Yes I still have the stock intake, like I said the engine and trans are still 100% stock!!! Next year I'll be doing the heads, 1.6 rockers, and a carb intake with adapter plate. And I have a Holley 670 in the garage just waiting for when I need it. I don't have a custom chip yet and I know I'll need it soon, but I don't have a lot of time right now to learn how to burn my own, and money is coming in kinda slow right now as I'm starting to save for a house.
Mathmatically with the heads, cam, intake, stall, 1.6 rockers, and some good tuning I should be in the 12's somewhere, hoping for 12.60's at least. We'll see, all in good time.

Mike

 

Somebody should really think about installing a second TBI unit in a dual quad intake. What, no takers? Do I have to do everything myself?

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Later,
Vader
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"Let the bodies hit the floor!"
Adobe Acrobat Reader

 

Turbocity.com has an awesome dual TBI setup. Tonight I ran the best I ever have 12.20 at 145!!!! I'd say thats pretty good.

 

Are you gonna tell us your mods or are you another one of those dudes that will keep the recipe all to himself?

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Pat Hirsz
www.iit.edu/~hirspat/MyPage2.htm
88 305TBI
Mods:Hooker Aerochamber 3" exhaust, no cat,SLP 1 5/8" headers and y-pipe March pullies, no smog, 180 thermo,
14x4 K&N, 3.42 gears(open), Ultimate TBI Mods,AFPR,MSD(ignition,coil&wires),Edelbrock TBI Manifold, 190ltr/hr fuel pump,
Eibach springs with KYB's all around,
Harwood cowl hood, Z-28 wing, fresh paint(black)
120,000 miles, 5spd, T-tops
0-60mph-7.2s-Gteched

92 RS, 305TBI, auto, 3.08 gears, 180 thermo, glasspack (no muffler)

 

12.2 @ 145?

BULL S H I T.

and i ran a 15.0 @ 120.


Shane Buss
1992 Firebird 355
2001 Trans Am
2001 Gsx-r 600

 

Ok fellas here's the recipe. A 335 stroker w/ Compucam, World 305 SR trokers ported and polished, SLP headers, full 3" exhaust, turbo city dual TBI, a double shot of 150 NOS, MSD 7, NGK plugs, not to mention many suspension. And yes it's true, the time slip is correct. I was going 156 mph 3/4 of the way then the #3 rod decided to disconnect itself from the piston and go straight thru the side of the block. Needless to say I'm selling the car and I'm now trying for 10 in my 92 RS.

[This message has been edited by robleegordon (edited June 18, 2001).]

[This message has been edited by robleegordon (edited June 18, 2001).]

 

Yeah, considering you need roughly 760RWHP in a 3200lbs car to run 145 mph in the quarter. Thats about 874hp at the crank.

Its probably best if you to straighten your story out now, before you lose more credibility. Otherwise you are going to be pegged as a liar.

 

are you sure it wasnt KPH not MPH? hahahaha i'd like to call bull**** on that one........

 

Ok, everone believe what they want to. But how the hell di Shanebus run 15.0 at 120??? That's a little fishy. If you got it to 120, you should have been in the 14's poss. 13's

 

For one the car doen't weight 3200 lbs. Try more like 2200 lbs. It is striped. Only 1 seat, no dash, no carpet, nothing. The front, hood and doors are fiberglass, and the drive shaft is a custom aluminum built. The heaviest parts of the car are the engine and rear, and 9" quick change rears aren't that heavy. And how does 12.2 equal 700 rwhp?
I've seen many 375 **** 4th gens. going 12.2???? And the speed doesn't mean that either. The engine was dynoed at 574 Fwhp and 501 rwhp. Why is this so hard to imigine???

 

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2200lbs and 501RWHP will give you about 142mph in the quarter. You claim 156mph at the 3/4 mark. This is rediculous.

You claim 12.2 yet your mph is good for 9sec runs. I find it funny that you questions Shane's 15 @ 120 when you claim 12.2 @ 145.

MPH is the best indicator of HP, not ET.

I still find your claims unbelievable.

 

574 Fwhp and 501 Rwhp? What is this, a Mitsubishi 3000GT?


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1989 Pontiac Firebird Formula LO3 Auto
-180 degree stat
-Hooker Cat-Back
-velcro t-top bag
-Wonder Bar from my IROC
*****Possible future mods*****
4th gen seats, fiberglass spoiler, new paint

1985 IROC-Z, TPI Auto
-Accel Super Coil
engine and tranny overhauls coming this summer


http://www.geocities.com/krt80/

 

Dual TBI huh... there it goes again... So... is the fastest TBi yet so far???

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92 Camaro 305 TBI Automatic. 2.5 high flow cat and 2.5 pipes into3.5in tip, shift kit. Tinted windows(legal)...

Future mods. Spark plug wires and plugs, Headers, O.E., any other advise on getting to 300+ HP would be appreciated. Thanks

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System = Sony explode CD/MD receiver, Rockford 6x9 Fanatics, 4x6 Clarion in the front, 2 12" Hx2's(Rockford) in custom box(black carpet) 1 farad cap, 800x2= 932 total watts Rockford Amp 4gauge wire kit.

 

Keith5 no it's a true Fbody, though my friend does have a 91 Twin Turbo Stealth the runs 9's. To all those that still don't believe me, too bad, and to all those who do, thanks for having an open mind. All it take is 1 night at a busy strip and you can see this repeated several times. I don't know what the best et for the car was because it was the 1st run ever on the new engine, and the last. When a rod goes thru your engine the motors seems to stop, and the trans also, therefore the wheels like to lock and drag, thus a 12.2 time. It may have gone into the 9, but i'll never know. Maybe I'll have to rebuilt the engine and get into Chevy High Performance to prove it to you all.

 

Also Keith5 fwhp means flywheel horse power. And if someone can run 120 at 15.0 w/ probably 250-300h.p. why couldn't a car run 12.2 at 145??? What you say is wrong. Brent you are one stubborn man. Nothing will ever change your mind. Your the type of guy that everyone hates to hang with. You are negative and unopen to possabilites. You could have even seen it and you still would have found some excuse for it. I give up. I thank you all for making my life more enjoyable.

 

i can't see a 12.2 at 145 myself either..
.. **** the freakin Hayabusa runs btwn 9.8-10.2.. depending on how balsy the rider is.. and they pretty much all run in the 143-147mph range... so.. 9's.... 145 with WAY more power to weight.. even with you running 500rwhp.... still don't see it.. maybe I can see the blowing an engine thing.. but you threw that in a little late.. granted i've seen top fuelers run 13.2 @ 240.. on accout of big flaming fireballs out the *** end for the last 1/8th..

Anthony

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previous ride: 87 Camaro LT
350, A4.Comp Cams 268H, Edelbrock Preformer intake, Hedman Headers and y-pipe, gutted cat, No AIR/smog pump. 14x3" Open element K&N, Q-jet w/ D hanger and DA rods, adjusted AV spring tension and quick can.

Current ride: 1992 Camaro RS, K&N, Flowmaster, 305, T5, Black, T-tops, 76k miles.

 

I'm sure Shane was being sarcastic about the 15s @120.

You claimed 156 mph at the 3/4 mark. You posted your weight and rwhp and you don't have the Hp to weight ratio to do 156mph. This is why I don't believe you. Your story just doesn't add up.

Thats correct. None of the b*llsh*ters want to hang with someone who doesn't believe their ridiculous claims. Facts are what I believe. Produce this _unaltered_ timeslip you are touting and I will believe you.

Do not presume to know what I would or would not believe.

[This message has been edited by Brent (edited June 20, 2001).]

 

I can see everybody's point. But when you blew the engine and the tranny locked up, wouldn't that slow you down from 156? So if the theory about the bad et is that it's because the tranny locked up, then to have SLOWED to 156, then wouldn't you have been going like 160or more before the engine blew?
I find that unbelievable.
I can see it if you only weigh 2200 and have 500hp, that is pretty close. I would like to see pics, or as Brent said timeslips.


Let's not make this one big flame thread guys.

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89 RS 350 TBI auto Hooker SC/LT headers Open element 3in K&N CVT protorque mini-starter

Daily driver 91 RS auto LO3 63k

 

Don't let this post get too far off topic or it's going to be closed.
Can some of you guys post pictures of timeslips of naturally aspirated 305 TBIs!! Post the slips! Post the slips! Post the slips!!!

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, Jon (350 TBI!)
91 Red My website

 

Yeah... where do you go to get your et??? Just becuase Ive never been to a place that advertises it and the only race track around here is 30 min away.. Wouold I go somewhere to it dynoed? or whatever....? And has there ever been a TBI in the 6's?

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92 Camaro 305 TBI Automatic. 2.5 high flow cat and 2.5 pipes into3.5in tip, shift kit. Tinted windows(legal)...

Future mods. Spark plug wires and plugs, Headers, O.E., any other advise on getting to 300+ HP would be appreciated. Thanks
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System = Sony explode CD/MD receiver, Rockford 6x9 Fanatics, 4x6 Clarion in the front, 2 12" Hx2's(Rockford) in custom box(black carpet) 1 farad cap, 800x2= 932 total watts Rockford Amp 4gauge wire kit.

 

this is topping out the BS meter guys. if anyone wantsd to see proof of my et's i can scan in my time slips for ya(may take a while, i have been racing hte car for 7 years) or you can just go to www.geocities.com/foff667 and look at the videos. the 14.209, 14.211, and several other 14.2's are all there.

lata
tim

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91 Camaro RS-LO3,Auto.
14.209@95.46mph
Best 60' 1.917
Check Out The East Coast F-Body Nationals Home Page
www.geocities.com/njspeeder

My MAFB.ORG Home Page
www.mycar.net/mafb/registry/detail.cfm?id=299

DSI Racing Home Page
www.geocities.com/foff667

 

OH MY GOD this is funny.

I was being very sarcastic about 15 @ 120.

I have run 13.6 @ 99 when my car was a 355 tbi.. timeslips link below...

NO WAY IN HELL 12.2 @ 145...it's totally impossible... If you lost the motor down the track your trap would be LOWER, not higher.. i have seen 12's at 80mph because the motor was gone on a 10 second pass.. but it is IMPOSSIBLE to go through at 145mph and be in the 12's unless you just sit there for a couple seconds.

B.S.


"Ok, everone believe what they want to. But how the hell di Shanebus run 15.0 at 120??? That's a little fishy. If you got it to 120, you should have been in the 14's poss. 13's "

and whoever wrote that, 120mph is NOT 14's or probably even 13's. buddy... ahahhah

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Shane Buss 92 Firebird 355, Holley 800 Double Pumper Carb, Vortec 1.94/1.50 Heads (Ported,Polished,Milled .025), 10:1 Comp Ratio, Cam Specs 224/234 498/520, 1.6 Roller Rockers, Hooker Headers, Flowmaster, !Cat, 3.73 Posi, Msd 6A Ignition Cyb. Speedo box, Single Plane Intake
http://users.ev1.net/~sdbuss/index.html

Note all girls on web page are x's, and will be removed when i get more time

WEIAND SUPERCHARGER REMOVED

2001 LS1 Trans AM A4. Bone Stock. 3.23 Rear End

 

timeslips from 355 tbi with stock tranny, torque converter.


http://users.ev1.net/~sdbuss/time.jpg

 

I just give up!!!! Sorry for the rivalries and the stupidity. I will not say anymore, believe what you want.

 

all anyone wants is you to back up yer story with some substance dude. we offered our proof, it's your turn now.

lata
tim

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91 Camaro RS-LO3,Auto.
14.209@95.46mph
Best 60' 1.917
Check Out The East Coast F-Body Nationals Home Page
www.geocities.com/njspeeder

My MAFB.ORG Home Page
www.mycar.net/mafb/registry/detail.cfm?id=299

DSI Racing Home Page
www.geocities.com/foff667

 

My Gordon. It's not that people don't believe you can run a 12.2@145 in our 3rd gens. It the fact that you say you have 515rwhp and 574 at the crank. This with the mods you listed above is impossible! Do you have ultra high compression pistons? The heads you listed are only speced for around 500hp, so what is your full specs of your motor?

 

The heads are cnc chambered and polished. 1.6 r.r., and the above mentioned. The H.P. rating given was with a 150 shot of NOS. It is poss. and when I get a scanner I'll show you. Until then I didn't mean for everyone to get so rialed up. I was not going 160 at the time of the trans. I looked at the spedo and it read around 156 or somewhere in there. The final time was 12.2@145. The momentum of the car kept it's speed, but the the time was slow. I have no idea how fast I could have gone??? I wish It would have lasted more than one pass. Sorry I can't help out with any new info. The car pretty much had all the mods already done to It when I bought it. Only thing I added was the NOS. Quite poss. the engine could be a 350??? From what I'm hearing the contradictions are resounding. I'm pulling the motor Tues. I'll post the cast # and if someone would help me out then I would be really grateful. The guy I bought it from said it was a 335 stroker built w/ a forged kit from Powerhouse. I have no Idea. All I know is I did waht I said and to all those who I offended I'm sorry.

 

why can't I be a moderator? this post needs cleanup big time.

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-Tas
'89 Formula WS-6

305, TBI, auto, 14x3 chrome flat based open element with K&N, Milodon 160* thermo, functional Formula hood, cross-flow Flowmaster, '99z28 rear pipes and tips....

Soon to be installed:
Hooker 1-5/8" 50 state legal headers, Dynomax 3" I pipe (PN 44063 and 43248), Catco 3" cat, and injector spacer.

Super GRK_Taz World
F-Body Dual Exaust
EFI & Intake Options
AOL IM: superGRtaz

 

Those numbers make no sense. You can't lose that much time in the last 1/4 of the track and still run a 145 throught the traps. Impossible. Also there is no way in hell a TBI fed small block with just a 150 shot could get anywhere near those mph.

100% BS. Unbelievable levels of stupidity in this thread.

Oh by the way my 89 TPI ran 13.99 at 150mph.
I must have spun the tires a lot cause I had a 6 second 60-foot time.

 

ok robleegordon you said your rear tires locked up because of the motor failure.now guys am i not correct when i say that rear tire lock up.even at 70,would cause a major loss of control of the car?i doubt the tires would just drag on the ground.i would think more along the lines of getting sideways,possibly flipping.anyone agree?

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-1991 camaro rs,dark red metallic,t-tops,stock 15inch rims
-stock L03 305,TH700R4,2.73's,only mod for now is a Flowmaster 80 series replacement muffler.

 

Personally i think RobbleGordon is a dumb @$$ ***** and has immigrated to America...... He is confusing MPH with his ***** native Kilometers per hour..... This just proves that not all *****s are computer whizzes, cause RobbleGordon is a dumb .... for sure!!!!! lol

 

actually we don't even know if he has an auto or a stick. in an auto, with a catastrophic crank failure (happened to a friend of mine at last years july high tech shoot out at englishtown) when the crank locks the converter will take the hit and fully release, it won't be happy about it, but it will release. the car would pull down violently and spread enough oil and water to call for a 45min delay at least. if it is a stick car it would instantly lock up the rear wheels, think ultimate e-brake u-turn . the best driver in the world, think colin mcrae or michael schumacher, would be unlikely to save it.


lata
tim



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91 Camaro RS-LO3,Auto.
14.209@95.46mph
Best 60' 1.917
Check Out The East Coast F-Body Nationals Home Page
www.geocities.com/njspeeder

My MAFB.ORG Home Page
www.mycar.net/mafb/registry/detail.cfm?id=299

DSI Racing Home Page
www.geocities.com/foff667

 

i would like to know who has the fastest n/a tbi ( 305 350 383 ...)?

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Twells

1992 R.S. 25th Anniversary
* Borla
* Open Element
* Hypertech Chip
* Smog pump delete

Thats all for now!!

 

RLG,

You don't have to keep explaining. Many people didn't believe some of the other members' low time slips until they saw the cars or knew all the details. (Does The ODB come to mind, for one?)

Conventional thinking and conventional formulas don't support the information you've offered. Just remember that conventional thinking produces conventional vehicles that run conventional times. Many dyno slips on blown cars are deceptively low in HP and torque at lower RPMs, and the true power comes in at RPMs that are beyond the abilities of most electrodynamic (crankshaft) dynos on these engines.

Some people didn't belive in a 1,400 HP SBC until Lingenfelter got tired of the BS and went out an set a world record with his...

Now what started this topic again?

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Later,
Vader
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"Let the bodies hit the floor!"
Adobe Acrobat Reader

 

First off to Impotrsrsloths, you have no idea as to what you are talking about. For one you are a very raciest person and I don't like you for that. Second, I'm sure I know of a few imports that could kick your A$$ up and down the street. (Kenny Tran, RX7, Sound familar) Next why must people talk so much trash. I think this post has gotten off the topic.

 

i am not talking any trash, i am just waiting for you to back up your BS story. if you can't do that just go away.

lata
tim


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91 Camaro RS-LO3,Auto.
14.209@95.46mph
Best 60' 1.917
Check Out The East Coast F-Body Nationals Home Page
www.geocities.com/njspeeder

My MAFB.ORG Home Page
www.mycar.net/mafb/registry/detail.cfm?id=299

DSI Racing Home Page
www.geocities.com/foff667

 

Someone PLEASE lock this thread.