Need Rear End Advice...got 3.42 Zelex-Torsen...will it kill mpg and the tranny?
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Car: 91 RS/ 99 T/A/ 72 Vette/ 02 Z28
Engine: LSx/ Dart400
Transmission: M6/ M6/ TH400/ 4L60E
Axle/Gears: 4.10's / 3.08/ 2.73
Need Rear End Advice...got 3.42 Zelex-Torsen...will it kill mpg and the tranny?
Need Rear End Advice...got 3.42 Zelex-Torsen...will it kill mpg and the tranny?
The short version is I bought 3.73 auburn for my T/A....since the T/A is a M6 now I have a spare 3.42 Zelex-Torsen.
My Camaro has the 2.73 gear open diff in it now. If I swap in the 3.42 rear how much gas mileage will I lose? How much 1/4 mile time will I gain.
The car dyno'd 132rwhp and 220rwtq but it has 225,700 miles on the original tranny. Will the new rear add strain on the tranny and kill it?
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91 RS Camaro 305TBI w/198,500 miles
99 TransAm
72 Vette
The short version is I bought 3.73 auburn for my T/A....since the T/A is a M6 now I have a spare 3.42 Zelex-Torsen.
My Camaro has the 2.73 gear open diff in it now. If I swap in the 3.42 rear how much gas mileage will I lose? How much 1/4 mile time will I gain.
The car dyno'd 132rwhp and 220rwtq but it has 225,700 miles on the original tranny. Will the new rear add strain on the tranny and kill it?
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91 RS Camaro 305TBI w/198,500 miles
99 TransAm
72 Vette
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Car: 89 Camaro RS Convertible
Engine: 305
Transmission: NWC T-5
I went from 2.73 to 3.73 and lost at most 2mpg. I seem to be the odd man out with mpg as my actual ratings are much higher than most. I still get 22mpg city and 28-31 hwy depending on my speed.
I haven't and most likely won't 1/4 mile my car but the off the line jump is great, and if you go with 3.42-3.73 it tends to stay in the RPM sweet spot for power at WOT.
It does however add some stress as it has to turn the driveshaft 3.73 times to turn the wheels once completely (correct me if I'm wrong about the way the measure it) vs. it having to spin them 2.73 per wheel revolution. This means the motor works harder and revs up more and the tranny spins more to go the same distance.
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I haven't and most likely won't 1/4 mile my car but the off the line jump is great, and if you go with 3.42-3.73 it tends to stay in the RPM sweet spot for power at WOT.
It does however add some stress as it has to turn the driveshaft 3.73 times to turn the wheels once completely (correct me if I'm wrong about the way the measure it) vs. it having to spin them 2.73 per wheel revolution. This means the motor works harder and revs up more and the tranny spins more to go the same distance.
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Car: 91 RS/ 99 T/A/ 72 Vette/ 02 Z28
Engine: LSx/ Dart400
Transmission: M6/ M6/ TH400/ 4L60E
Axle/Gears: 4.10's / 3.08/ 2.73
My car is also one of the MPG freaks, it's best is 31.5mpg and it's gotten 28mpg+ more times than I can count. In town it's more like 24mpg I can live with losing 2-3mpg, I can't live with lossing 10mpg and getting 14mpg in town.
Thanks for the advice!
Thanks for the advice!
when i switched rear gears it didn't affect my highwya mileage at all. i went from 2.73 peg leg to 3.54 posi.
around townit was worse because i started launching from every traffic light
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around townit was worse because i started launching from every traffic light

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Axle/Gears: 10-bolt w/3.73s
yeah i was just gonna say that...i bet the fact that you like to show off your new gears at every chance yo get will lower your mileage. i really don't have any experience to speak of as far as this goes, but i don't think it will be a huge deal.
-Brian
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-Brian
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You should get better mileage in town, BUT you will probably get worse as described as you play with your newly found right foot. Less pedal is needed to drive in the city with lower gears, but most end up using more!
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From: Randleman,NC,USA
Car: 91 Camaro RS Convertible
Engine: 385ci LT1 cnc ported heads big cam
Transmission: 4L60E automatic
Axle/Gears: 3.42 Zexel posi 7.5" rear
If I drive my 3.42 zexel easily. I get 26mpg on the highway with cruise set at 72. In town I can't seem to keep my foot out of it no matter how hard I try. Launch is much improved and highway driving is unaffected.
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91 Camaro RS 5.0L Black Convertible 700R4
** Added so far **
*GM Wonderbar,Alston SFC's,spohn LCA's and Panhard rod
*Turbo City Inj Spacer
*Dual Snorkel Air Filter
*March Performance Pulleys
*GM 3.42 Gears with OEM Zexel POSI
*Edelbrock headers
*3" High Flow Cat
*3" Dynomax Exhaust
*Walbro 255 lph Fuel Pump
***Future 330hp Vortec Crate with LT4 hotcam and 454 TBI
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91 Camaro RS 5.0L Black Convertible 700R4
** Added so far **
*GM Wonderbar,Alston SFC's,spohn LCA's and Panhard rod
*Turbo City Inj Spacer
*Dual Snorkel Air Filter
*March Performance Pulleys
*GM 3.42 Gears with OEM Zexel POSI
*Edelbrock headers
*3" High Flow Cat
*3" Dynomax Exhaust
*Walbro 255 lph Fuel Pump
***Future 330hp Vortec Crate with LT4 hotcam and 454 TBI
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I just got my Richmond 3.42's with the Zexel-Torsion Posi. Lost no highway mpg, town is a little less, like one mpg less. As for the performance gain, I'm still beaking them in, but it definitely feels like it has more get up and go.
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Car: 91 RS/ 99 T/A/ 72 Vette/ 02 Z28
Engine: LSx/ Dart400
Transmission: M6/ M6/ TH400/ 4L60E
Axle/Gears: 4.10's / 3.08/ 2.73
Later this week we start rebuilding the front suspension, after that the rear goes in.
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