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Old 03-14-2013, 12:57 AM
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Anyone know how to build a manometer?
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Anyone know how to build a manometer?
Pretty easy really. It is a U-shaped piece of clear tube, you can use vyhnal tubing and a board. I used some clamps to hold it to the board. You stand it straight up and down and fill the tube 1/2 way full of water. Then connect each side to your hoses. Once you get the tube back level, you are balanced.
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Pretty easy really. It is a U-shaped piece of clear tube, you can use vyhnal tubing and a board. I used some clamps to hold it to the board. You stand it straight up and down and fill the tube 1/2 way full of water. Then connect each side to your hoses. Once you get the tube back level, you are balanced.
How big a board to use? how long and big of a hose to use?
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Here is a digital version I used for work related analysis...

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Here is a digital version I used for work related analysis...

http://www.transcat.com/PDF/477A_cat.pdf
If still looking... This is one of the better threads I found on the manometer.

http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/...le-bodies.html
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Autostart with a remote alarm, on a crossfire? any problems? Anyone done this? Just checking the experts before hitting a roadblock!
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Autostart with a remote alarm, on a crossfire? any problems? Anyone done this? Just checking the experts before hitting a roadblock!
I had my viper 5900 remote starter alarm system since july 2008. And no problems. other that typical alarm false alerts I am going go upgrade to newer viper system. I can control it via smart phone.
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I just my renegade manifold today from ecklers firebird cyber monday/ black friday sale. Any body got CFI TBI adjustment tools for sale?
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Autostart with a remote alarm, on a crossfire? any problems? Anyone done this? Just checking the experts before hitting a roadblock!

Have a Viper 791XV on my 82 KITT replica crossfire Have had it installed since 2006 !!

there was a starting issue,But my audio "tech" guy fixed it.

Only issue is the POS remote draining my AAA batteries

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I just my renegade manifold today from ecklers firebird cyber monday/ black friday sale. Any body got CFI TBI adjustment tools for sale?
I do. you have a pm
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I do. you have a pm
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Did you ever get that manifold installed?
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Did you ever get that manifold installed?
do you mean the renegade?
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Re: Favorable Crossfire Thread

Just traded a vehicle for a 1983 TA with CFI. It was running rather well but is going to require a new engine unless I devote an entire rebuild bottom to top(really not worth salvaging the 305 at this time), my mechanic is in the process of price checking on a good 350, and everything synced up. I will probably keep the 305 if there is no core fee for a later rebuild on a different vehicle.

The shop suggests putting MS on it before buttoning it back together to optimize performance and weed out hiccups. I am curious on what experience people have had and benefits to fine tune the CFI system? I am familiar with computers and programming so it doesn't intimidate. From what I have been researching it seems like a good bet.

Goal. This is going to be a regular driver and long term 'tinker-project'. Not looking for beast power or race stock or going back to complete bare OEM. Thank you!
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do you mean the renegade?
Yes, the Renegade.
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Just traded a vehicle for a 1983 TA with CFI. It was running rather well but is going to require a new engine unless I devote an entire rebuild bottom to top(really not worth salvaging the 305 at this time), my mechanic is in the process of price checking on a good 350, and everything synced up. I will probably keep the 305 if there is no core fee for a later rebuild on a different vehicle.

The shop suggests putting MS on it before buttoning it back together to optimize performance and weed out hiccups. I am curious on what experience people have had and benefits to fine tune the CFI system? I am familiar with computers and programming so it doesn't intimidate. From what I have been researching it seems like a good bet.

Goal. This is going to be a regular driver and long term 'tinker-project'. Not looking for beast power or race stock or going back to complete bare OEM. Thank you!
Look into ebl flash
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I know that no one has posted on this thread for a while but, got a question. My Camaro still has the 305 under the CFI. I got my Renegade Intake Manifold (looks beautiful lol), putting in an electric fuel pump, rebuilding the TBI's, going to change all the sensors, replace all the vacuum lines, dual electric fan, getting rid of the cats, and setting the fuel pressure up. Is there anything else that I could do to get a little more power? I was thinking TBI spacers because I found some for cheap, even though a lot of people think that they don't work, but, not sure if it would cause problems with clearance.
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If I recall the Renegade is a large runner manifold. It may be too large for a 305. But give it a try. As far as clearance it may be OK. I would measure clearance to hood or top of AC assembly.

Cranking up FP presents its own issues. Crank, choke, AE, open loop will all be proportionately richer and fuel mileage will suffer as well as drivability. Cold manifold upping FP will help in drivability but once it goes CL it will be too rich. Up FP is a crutch for getting PE correct and that will work for PE A/F.

Best idea is to learn DIY Prom on that Forum.

I did what you are referring to many years back. It did not turn out well initially. Today I have port fuel on my CF and it was the BEST idea/result for my current set up.
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Re: Favorable Crossfire Thread

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I know that no one has posted on this thread for a while but, got a question. My Camaro still has the 305 under the CFI. I got my Renegade Intake Manifold (looks beautiful lol), putting in an electric fuel pump, rebuilding the TBI's, going to change all the sensors, replace all the vacuum lines, dual electric fan, getting rid of the cats, and setting the fuel pressure up. Is there anything else that I could do to get a little more power? I was thinking TBI spacers because I found some for cheap, even though a lot of people think that they don't work, but, not sure if it would cause problems with clearance.

Don't forget the exhaust manifolds. Replace the factory 2" units with L69/TPI 2.25".

The spacers may add a tiny bit of throttle response and power.
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I know that no one has posted on this thread for a while but, got a question. My Camaro still has the 305 under the CFI. I got my Renegade Intake Manifold (looks beautiful lol), putting in an electric fuel pump, rebuilding the TBI's, going to change all the sensors, replace all the vacuum lines, dual electric fan, getting rid of the cats, and setting the fuel pressure up. Is there anything else that I could do to get a little more power? I was thinking TBI spacers because I found some for cheap, even though a lot of people think that they don't work, but, not sure if it would cause problems with clearance.
I just installed the renegade to my 83 cfi
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I just installed the renegade to my 83 cfi
And...what do you think?
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Ronny, luckily I have someone that's very knowledgeable about vehicles, except the CFI, that is helping me. I'll admit, I don't know much about vehicles so, while he's helping me, he's going to teach me. I would jump head first into it but, have read these systems are VERY touchy. I'm going to let him read your post in hopes we don't run into any headaches. Chazman, the car now has Hedman headers and a Flowmaster exhaust from the previous owner. Once the guy and I start on it, I'm going to have him look everything over to make sure everything is in order. KITT1983, I'd like to know as well what you think about the Renegade. Is there anything else that him and I could run into? Any help would be appreciated. Don't want to be a way from my car for to long.....hahaha
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And...what do you think?
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Ronny, luckily I have someone that's very knowledgeable about vehicles, except the CFI, that is helping me. I'll admit, I don't know much about vehicles so, while he's helping me, he's going to teach me. I would jump head first into it but, have read these systems are VERY touchy. I'm going to let him read your post in hopes we don't run into any headaches. Chazman, the car now has Hedman headers and a Flowmaster exhaust from the previous owner. Once the guy and I start on it, I'm going to have him look everything over to make sure everything is in order. KITT1983, I'd like to know as well what you think about the Renegade. Is there anything else that him and I could run into? Any help would be appreciated. Don't want to be a way from my car for to long.....hahaha
it was designed for a corvette, you will have to fabricate hold down brackets for accessory brackets. and there was some gap issues for the distributor. but a solution was MacGyvered. it has better flow than the stock intake. the porting is a lot better

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I am have balancing issues with the tbi's
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Re: Favorable Crossfire Thread

Originally Posted by KITT1983
I am have balancing issues with the tbi's
What issue are you having? It has been awhile since I did mine, but I remember finding a procedure online, drilling out the factory welds on the TBI's and using a water manometer.
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This guy used to post here a bit, and I used his procedure.
http://www.thecubestudio.com/Crossfi...yBalancing.htm
I built this manometer.
http://www.thecubestudio.com/Crossfi...tManometer.htm

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What issue are you having? It has been awhile since I did mine, but I remember finding a procedure online, drilling out the factory welds on the TBI's and using a water manometer.
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This guy used to post here a bit, and I used his procedure.
http://www.thecubestudio.com/Crossfi...yBalancing.htm
I built this manometer.
http://www.thecubestudio.com/Crossfi...yBalancing.htm
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I've had the Renegade on my car for 2 years, need to get it dyno'd so I can measure HP difference.

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I've had the Renegade on my car for 2 years, need to get it dyno'd so I can measure HP difference.
where is the current picture of your intake ? Current picture of my setup with the new Renegade intake..."
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where is the current picture of your intake ? Current picture of my setup with the new Renegade intake..."
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Current engine pic
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Need to get extra thick valve cover gaskets or shave the underneath off of the ones I'm putting on and make a gasket for the top plate. TBI's have been rebuilt, all new sensors going in, new vacuum lines, and the air cleaner assembly will be powder coated and engine will be detailed.

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Need to get extra thick valve cover gaskets or shave the underneath off of the ones I'm putting on and make a gasket for the top plate. TBI's have been rebuilt, all new sensors going in, new vacuum lines, and the air cleaner assembly will be powder coated and engine will be detailed.
what gasket did you use for top plate and valve covers ?
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On top plate I would use "right stuff".... No gasket needed
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what gasket did you use for top plate and valve covers ?
Went to get a gasket for the Renegade thinking that they made one for it but, found out that they didn't. That's really the only thing holding me up til this coming Saturday. The valve cover gaskets are regular but, the VC's have a little part that hangs down that hits the Renegade. Shave that down and it will be good to go. Nice pictures KITT. Ronny, thanks for the advice on "right stuff". Was wondering what the hell I was going to have to do. Don't know much about vehicles so, the guy helping me is teaching me while I do most of the work.
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When I ran XRam I don't recall using any sealant or gasket. A small leak may not matter as injectors are spraying on plenum floor anyway and sheared off with velocity. Not the best technology in fueling design there! If you remove the lid I suspect you will see fuel puddling at low corners of plenum. I did.
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I just used gasket sealer
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I have sent my tbis to rebuilt
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Been over two years since anyone posted on here. Anyone close to the Eastern Panhandle of West Virginia? I'd like to get a bunch of CFI owners and go for a cruise. Posted that on the CFI group on FB but, nothing yet.
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350 build

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well I ordered the Parts I listed
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I have been building and daily driving CFI cars for over 25 years. In addition to being an expert on 82-84 Trans Ams, with almost 30 years of correct restorations, documenting, researching; I am also a known CFI guru. I have a youtube channel dedicated to the LU5 and L83 engines. Link is below 👇

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I have been building and daily driving CFI cars for over 25 years. In addition to being an expert on 82-84 Trans Ams, with almost 30 years of correct restorations, documenting, researching; I am also a known CFI guru. I have a youtube channel dedicated to the LU5 and L83 engines. Link is below 👇

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