I'll give you a run down on what I have done.
Started with a 91 RS w/a 305 TBI 700R4 274 gears
Put in 350 gears all new bearings and seals, Rebuilt tranny, Added corvette servo TransCo shift prog kit and a high stall converter. The I dropped in a 330hp Vortec head 350. The motor has all the **** done to it. All high dollar. Had a 46mm 68# injectors AFPR etc TBI made by SPR. AC Delco FP. Shorty SS headers 3" to a Magna flow muffler. God this sight made it all easy. It went together fine. I was talked into an EBL. Thats is my problem. I don't know what I'm doing.
I did what Bob said w/Bin 2017 and it runs bad. To rich at an idol makes headers glow red. I mess arround with different one to no help. Then I guess I'm dumb. What is a VE learn? I don't have a clue how to tune it. I was hoping to be driving it this weekend. To boot it is getting hot. The temp goes up to hi befor the stat opens. The fan isn't turning on either.

You all have helped me so far. The build went smooth as silk. If you all could help me with the EBL perhaps recomend a bin to start with. Bob when you read this know I am very flustrated. I thought it would be self explantory to me. I can't get the damp programs to do the same thing twice. I think I understand it then it doesn't do the same thing. I am going to give it the week end then I'm starting over and going back to my first choice. I guess I shouldn't have taken on such a big project. There are just some things left to professionals. I thought it would be fun to be able to really tune the car and get to know how it thinks. I had a blast putting it together but it aint done.

I will write BobR again and see if I can get it to work. To top it all off the car is an hour away at my shop. I'm on nites so I dwell on it all nite, get an idea, can't sleep, the drive an hour just to be let down.

I just have to keep telling myself. Life is a challange. What don't kill you makes you stronger. This is my hobby, my pashion, my addication, if it weren't for this I'd have way to much of that pasky stuff called money and time.

I'd sell the bastard in a minute.

I do want to thank you all. Your experance, knowalge and willingness to help made this build go smooth. I am sure this to will pass.

The fan does not turn on via the EBL in stock form, however by repinning 1 wire in the harness it would be easy to add the functionality. The temperature switch for the fan was in the cylinder head. The switch grounds the fan relay to turn the fan on. If it is missing or disconnected your fan will never recieve the run signal.

As for the thermostat not opening, you might try drilling a 1/16" hole in the outer ring to allow air to escape from the engine while it is being filled with coolant.

Glowing headers is generally a TIMING issue not so much an air/fuel mixture one. When you set the timing on a TBI make for certain the timing connector is unplugged. I forget where the one on the thirdgen is located, but a quick search should on this site should provide its location. Retarded timing will allow the still burning air/fuel mixture into the exhaust, making the exhaust rich and superheating the headers.

The engine you have installed in your car probably will not like the factory 0* or TDC setting for the distributor. I would probably set the timing to about 10-12* with the connector unplugged. On a hotter than stock cammed TBI engine I always liked running as much timing as I could get away with before the starter became loaded on a hot restart. At that point in your editor you will want to find the base timing value in the constants and adjust it to match what you set your timing at.

Furthermore I found that TBI heads like a substantial amount of timing at lower engine speeds and loads, up to 46* in some places. WOT generally was a 32-34* BTDC all in by 3,400 rpm. The TBI like spark maps do not have enough timing anywhere except idle. The vortec heads also like their fuel. I tuned a vortec headed TPI in my G20 and had to signifigantly increase the fuel delivery above idle in the 50+ KPA map area. This engine had ported heads with 2.05/1.60" valves but a regular vortec head still likes much more fuel than a standard TBI engine.

For that engine you will need about 20-22 PSI of fuel pressure with the 68# injectors to feed the engine otherwise you just will not have enough fuel especially during AE. LEAN popping and excessive heat will be the end result.

Nice. Is the fan switch located on the intake near the thermastate housing? I grounded that ans the fan still didn't start. So it is what wire I want to go to where? The plug for the EGR? Connect it to the wire to the switch? I prob have a relay issue too. I found a fuse and it looked good but that isnt ness. a good check. I'll use my fluke. I sure would like to be able to start the fan a little earler. You say a pin? in the harness? What is it for? Please get into more detail or tell me where to find it.

I have the timing at 6 rite now and it is prog. in. Bob hooked me up on the wire. I too like a lot of timing but I thought the EBL might not. I'll try 10/12 and see what that does.

I am reading and rereading the intro to tuning over and over trying out all the tricks. Can't get most of them to work but I still get by. I sure wish my car was in my garage. It's an hour away so I can't just try something real quick. Next time I'm going for a drive no matter what.

The headers would just glow at an idle. But give it some gas and they cool down. I need more timing? Will VE learn tell me that? I have 4 BINs to try. I took the close ones and put in the 3000 stuff for Vortec heads.

I am trying to figure out the Banks. Seem to me I put a different BIN in each and just press one button for comparison. I just can't figure out how to tell which one is in which. I got all night to figure it our. But now the WUD and Utility prog want the disc's to start and there with the car. All I need is TurnerPro.

Keep your fingers crossed. Thanks for the great advise.

The fan switch is in the cylinder head between the spark plugs #6 and #8.

When changing the base timing the "SA - Initial SA" parameter in the BIN needs to be changed to match. It is important that they match.

The base timing is only used during cranking and limp mode. So if more SA is required at idle it needs to be done in the calibration (BIN). The main SA needs to be changed, and if the "set idle SA" option flag is set then the idle SA parameter also needs to be changed.

For keeping track of the BINs use the PromID (first entry in the scalars). This is displayed on the main WUD displays and is only used for that. Note that the VE Learn increments the PromID for each newly created BIN.

> But now the WUD and Utility prog want the disc's to start and there with the car.

It sounds like you created shortcuts to the CD. The CD should have auto-installed on your laptop/PC and the CD is then not needed to run the programs.

RBob.