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Anyone use Russell fittings/hoses to re-do heater hoses?

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Old Apr 26, 2003 | 04:50 PM
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Anyone use Russell fittings/hoses to re-do heater hoses?

I wanted to replace the NPT fitings on my engine and replace them with russell fittings and hoses.

Yes I know they are expensive.

My engine bay has some custom hose routing and the russell stuff might solve some issues.

Question: How do you clamp a russell steel braided hose to the copper heater core inlet/outlet?

Mark.
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Old Apr 26, 2003 | 08:27 PM
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Why wouldn't you simply upgrade to silicone hoses? Exposed metal reinforcement braid is so old-school. You NEVER see it in a true high-performance or high-stress application, since it doesn't survive as well as internally reinforced hose - even if some people think it looks cool. Ask to see one of their 15,000 PSI hose assemblies. Then look at internally reinforced hoses. Parker, Gates, Imperial/Eastman, etc. make the GOOD stuff.
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Old Apr 27, 2003 | 02:38 PM
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I am not looking for a particular "look", rather I need to clear some rather difficult paths for my hoses, and the russell fittings might do the trick ... granted at a high price.

I replace at least one heater hose per year due to my routing. Basically my TPI follows a street rod theme. I don't want to see wires or hoses, hence they are all routed down and under.

I disagree regarding point of high performance or high stress applications. Rather in these cases, you DON'T see hose clamps! You see AN fittings everywhere.

I don't want the braided hoses, or the look, just the pre-fab'd ends. The down side if the high priced, inflexible and difficult t clean briaded lines.

Agreed that Parker, Gates, etc. all make good stuff. But it is the AN fittings I am after, not the hoses.

Thanks for the honest reply. Always appreciated.

Mark

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Why wouldn't you simply upgrade to silicone hoses? Exposed metal reinforcement braid is so old-school. You NEVER see it in a true high-performance or high-stress application, since it doesn't survive as well as internally reinforced hose - even if some people think it looks cool. Ask to see one of their 15,000 PSI hose assemblies. Then look at internally reinforced hoses. Parker, Gates, Imperial/Eastman, etc. make the GOOD stuff.
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Old Apr 27, 2003 | 03:27 PM
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The Russle lines are attached by a rubber hose but the cover hides the connection. Some of the $high end$ connections actualy have a clamp built into the slip fitting instead of the cheap cover.
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Old Apr 27, 2003 | 03:46 PM
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I understand how the russell lines and fitting work. I can make up the end that thread together, but I am confused how to "clamp" a very stiff braided line to a soft copper heater core pipe.

It makes me think you need to change to the russel rubber hoses for that connection.

I can't see how a hose clamp could compress the braided steel lines.

I don't think you can peel back the steel braid either ... and plus it would look like crap.

Mark.

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The Russle lines are attached by a rubber hose but the cover hides the connection. Some of the $high end$ connections actualy have a clamp built into the slip fitting instead of the cheap cover.
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 08:05 AM
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If you're going under the engine, along frame members, etc., you may actually want to use pipe instead of hose, and only short pieces of silicone hose at the vibration points.
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