ODB's tech secret
ODB's tech secret
this is valuable tech info that a lot of people may wonder about so I made it a separate post.
crazeinc
Member
Posts: 1008
From: Naperville, IL
USA
Registered: Dec 1999
posted February 19, 2001 12:09 PM
I think someone already asked this, but it started some big battle, but I just care about
the facts...
I was reading your signature and I noticed you ran a 10.9 @124 N/A and was just curious
how you were able to do that with a setup that at first glance looks like 12's??
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1982 Camaro Z28
should be running 11's this spring...we'll see
Check the website for progress http://members.fbody.com/Pro82Z/
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The ODB
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Posts: 514
From: Belleville, IL
USA
Registered: Jan 2001
posted February 19, 2001 12:14 PM
you can't judge performance based on a collection of parts.
Most people do not bother to powertune their setup, they just throw money and more
parts at it.
When people do not bother to learn powertuning procedures or actually do the testing
themselves, they automatically assume the parts they have are power limited by design.
As you can see the parts are only limited by the tuner.
I use a Vericom2000 accelerometer to do strict tests of all my mods and tuning. I have
used it for over 8 years and say that it is my all time best investment as far as
performance parts go @ $500. I have easily realized more performance gains by using the
vericom than with any other modification to the car including stroker engine and nitrous.
there is the short answer.
ODB
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*I do custom performance mods on Edlebrock Performer carburetors (dualplane intake mods in the works),
White 1986 Irocz, 305 with iron #416 heads,
383 with aluminum TFS heads,
Edlebrock Performer-RPM intake and Performer #1407 carburetor, +110hp shot of crack, 700R-4 tranny, Vigilante 2400 lockup converter, 3.25:1 Ford 9" rear, Mcreary Road-Stars, SLP-stainless 1.75" shortie headers & Y-pipe, single 3" Borla exhaust, Linginfelter-TPI camshaft part number 74216 pulls 17" vacuum solid. Cam specs 213/219 @.050 114-LSA, sometimes advertised at 216/219 @.050 112-LSA .462/.470 lift @1.5:1 ratio. Using Harland Sharp 1.65:1 roller rockers. MSD-6AL, billet distributor, multi-retard, blaster-3 coil, and RPM switch. SouthSide machine subframe connectors, SSM lift-bars, Moroso 4" underdrive crank pulley.
N/A runs 10.9 @124,
Crack-runs 10.3 @135
haven't run at track since Oct-99
crazeinc
Member
Posts: 1008
From: Naperville, IL
USA
Registered: Dec 1999
posted February 19, 2001 12:09 PM
I think someone already asked this, but it started some big battle, but I just care about
the facts...
I was reading your signature and I noticed you ran a 10.9 @124 N/A and was just curious
how you were able to do that with a setup that at first glance looks like 12's??
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1982 Camaro Z28
should be running 11's this spring...we'll see
Check the website for progress http://members.fbody.com/Pro82Z/
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The ODB
Member
Posts: 514
From: Belleville, IL
USA
Registered: Jan 2001
posted February 19, 2001 12:14 PM
you can't judge performance based on a collection of parts.
Most people do not bother to powertune their setup, they just throw money and more
parts at it.
When people do not bother to learn powertuning procedures or actually do the testing
themselves, they automatically assume the parts they have are power limited by design.
As you can see the parts are only limited by the tuner.
I use a Vericom2000 accelerometer to do strict tests of all my mods and tuning. I have
used it for over 8 years and say that it is my all time best investment as far as
performance parts go @ $500. I have easily realized more performance gains by using the
vericom than with any other modification to the car including stroker engine and nitrous.
there is the short answer.
ODB
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*I do custom performance mods on Edlebrock Performer carburetors (dualplane intake mods in the works),
White 1986 Irocz, 305 with iron #416 heads,
383 with aluminum TFS heads,
Edlebrock Performer-RPM intake and Performer #1407 carburetor, +110hp shot of crack, 700R-4 tranny, Vigilante 2400 lockup converter, 3.25:1 Ford 9" rear, Mcreary Road-Stars, SLP-stainless 1.75" shortie headers & Y-pipe, single 3" Borla exhaust, Linginfelter-TPI camshaft part number 74216 pulls 17" vacuum solid. Cam specs 213/219 @.050 114-LSA, sometimes advertised at 216/219 @.050 112-LSA .462/.470 lift @1.5:1 ratio. Using Harland Sharp 1.65:1 roller rockers. MSD-6AL, billet distributor, multi-retard, blaster-3 coil, and RPM switch. SouthSide machine subframe connectors, SSM lift-bars, Moroso 4" underdrive crank pulley.
N/A runs 10.9 @124,
Crack-runs 10.3 @135
haven't run at track since Oct-99
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From: Chicago, IL
Car: 89 IROC-Z
Engine: LB9
Transmission: 700-R4
Hey ODB, were there any personal tuning revelations for you that led you to implement specifics of your current setup? e.g.: edelbrock heads, 383 stroker v. 396 or 402 non-stroked, that particular cam? What kind of mileage do you get if you're not "hot-doggin it?"
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"Among so many conflicting ideas and so many different perpectives, the honest man is confused and distressed and the skeptic becomes wicked...Since one must take sides, one might as well choose the side that is victorious, the side which devastates, loots, and burns. Considering the alternative, it is better to eat than to be eaten."
Napoleon I
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"Among so many conflicting ideas and so many different perpectives, the honest man is confused and distressed and the skeptic becomes wicked...Since one must take sides, one might as well choose the side that is victorious, the side which devastates, loots, and burns. Considering the alternative, it is better to eat than to be eaten."
Napoleon I
I'm still a little bit confused by your signature. I've been reading it as 10.9 N/A for a 305 which ranks really high up there on the BS meter, but what's with the 383? Is that what you made those runs with?
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1984 WS6 Trans Am Hartop
Former L69 Car under restoration
1984 Trans Am T-tops
4-bolt main 350, performer intake, headers, Holley 650, T-5, hayes clutch, dual elec. fans and 3.23's.
Daily driver and restoration
13.98 @ 101
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1984 WS6 Trans Am Hartop
Former L69 Car under restoration
1984 Trans Am T-tops
4-bolt main 350, performer intake, headers, Holley 650, T-5, hayes clutch, dual elec. fans and 3.23's.
Daily driver and restoration
13.98 @ 101
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