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Old Apr 12, 2001 | 09:34 AM
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3 angle valve job

What is involved in a 3angle valve job and what is the advantage? Will it help the performance on your heads?
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Old Apr 12, 2001 | 10:17 AM
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a three anle valve job is having work done on the valves to clear the airway in 3 degrees. It works best than those stainless steel valves and should give u an additional 5-10 hp.

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Old Apr 12, 2001 | 04:47 PM
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Old Apr 13, 2001 | 07:22 PM
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A 3 angle valve job has nothing to do with the valves themselves. It means cutting the valve seat at 30, 45, and 60 degrees and usually helps with airflow.
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Old Apr 13, 2001 | 07:48 PM
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Scott,

I'mm making some assumptions since you didn't include engine data with your post. Fisrt assumption is that you have an '87 convertible. Second is that you have the original engine, which should have been a 305 in a convert, and third is that the engine is basically using stock heads.

The 3-angle grind on the almost-shrouded 305 valves will not make as much difference as it might in a chamber with more clearances, like a 350. You'll probably see just as much flow improvement if you radius the front side of the valve margin in the small chambers (see diagram).



The left valve is a "standard" grind configuration. The center valve shows the conventional three-angle grind, and teh right valve is a radiused face. Imagine yourself as an air molecule exploding past the edges of the valves, and you might see how a small chamber would restrict flows even around a three-angle grind.

Other than greater cost, another disadvantage of the three-angle grinds is that the valves are more sensitive to sealing, and good compression may be harder to maintain over the long haul with the extra angles. The problem is as the valve faces and seats wear, the angles no longer match well, causing leaks much sooner than with a single 45°/46° grind setup. Radius on the front face has no effect on sealing, but can improve flows around the otherwise sharp corners of the margin/face of the valve. Short trackers around here are getting an extra 5+ HP from this alone. Oddly enough, there is no reported gain from a radius on the exhaust valves, but no loss either. I've done is on one of my own 350s, and have had no problems. I didn't dyno before and after, so I have no empirical data to support the theory - just reported increases from third parties.

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