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Crank, no start problem. Anyone?

Old May 24, 2001 | 07:05 AM
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Car: CTS-V & 89 Z28 vortech charged
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Crank, no start problem. Anyone?

1989 Camaro 5.7 Tpi, auto mass-air engine. O.K. here goes I have a crank no start problem and have followed the G.M. service manuals flow chart and have come up empty and I'm wondering if anyone has run across something like this.
Mods : afpr, ported plenum, slp runners, accell fuel injectors, slp headers to 3" flomaster, missing egr, missing air mgmt., crane hi-6 cd box, hypertech chip, pulleys, new msd cap and rotor, accel 300+ race wires, air foil.
It has plenty of fuel pressure, it has a bright blue spark, noid light blinks on both fuel injector harnesses, scanner reads rpm when cranking.
The S*** of it is this thing will run reliably if you shoot choke cleaner in the plenum before trying to start it. cold takes a one second blast, hot takes a quarter second blast. If I dont forget to bring my can of cleaner I can get it to start every time but without cleaner its the nike express.
If anyone has experienced this let me know!?!?

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Old May 24, 2001 | 07:16 AM
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no codes? have you checked the cold start injector (if 89 has one)? after the cold start injector i'd be looking at the tps and cts.

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Old May 24, 2001 | 06:02 PM
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Car: CTS-V & 89 Z28 vortech charged
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Transmission: 6-speed & 5 speed
No cold start injector, no codes, throttle pos sen is set at .56 with scanner. cts is reading correctly. Would a leaking fuel injector cause a no-start situation? pressure not holding when feed and or return line is crimped which means leaking inj, right.

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Old May 24, 2001 | 08:19 PM
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Mine would do this when hot. Turns out one of the injectors was going to ground when hot. Since all injectors share a common ground -and- electricity follows the path of least resistance, the one bad injector was stealing voltage from the others not allowing it to start. With a shot of starter fluid it would fire right up. The noid light lit up but was rather weak.
I had great fuel pressure and everything else was replaced or swapped, i.e. coil, distributor, ECM, chip, Ignition module, IAC etc. Took me a month to figure it out then I had to take it to GM Tech to figure it out.
Hope this helps.
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Old May 24, 2001 | 09:46 PM
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I'll have to check the injectors a little closer. I ohm checked them before installing them, they seemed all good, mabye one went south. Thanks for your input.

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