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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 08:24 PM
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New Problems guys, worse then before.

Oh gosh, got the balancer replaced and the engine still vibrates just as much as it did before the balancer was replaced.

yet when i popped the hood a very not good noise was coming from my CAI, like a scraping noise. Like the damn engine was frying yet it sounded less harmless. Not squeeky, just iunno howto explain it.

It still vibrates also. what is the deal?

I guess it defiantely is a missfire cause it dont pull for crap like it use to. so.... It will have tobe a dang missfire. gosh and all that money didn't even need to be spent on a darn balancer.

What else could be qrong for the dang thing to vibrate so badly.

And it isn't idleing correctly,. a lower idle then normal.

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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 08:27 PM
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Take it to your mechanic and have it fixed. Have you checked for codes?

And fix your sig, good *** man its a page long, wtf!!!
Old Nov 13, 2004 | 08:29 PM
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no this is a problem i want to fix, everbody at school knows of me as the guy to tlak to this is more of my learning experience. And as of my last damn missfire this seems just like it, except last time one of my wires blew. I guess its the time to just replace all the darn plugs.

I'm the guy who has to fi this, becuase its within my darn reach of fixing.





But what could be the noise coming from my CAI?
Old Nov 13, 2004 | 08:36 PM
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try trouble shooting and learing to spell and write in complete sentences, or something close to it.
Old Nov 13, 2004 | 08:56 PM
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What exactly does this:
less harmless
mean? Is that some kind of oxy-moron?
Old Nov 13, 2004 | 09:38 PM
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stop flaming the kid. he asked a question leave it at that. try replace all the plugs. and wire and rotor. check your motor mounts. see if thier good. do the simple things... it's that simple
Old Nov 13, 2004 | 09:48 PM
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it's that simple
Well, more times than not, its the simple things... Check the basics first, without those being confirmed, you can't intelligently progress with your diagnosis.. All ignition components need to be confirmed as functional before moving on to other issues..
Old Nov 13, 2004 | 09:54 PM
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yes this i know, there was oila ll over the rear drivers side so i replaced that one but not much more time so i had to leave and then i noticed the darn blancer was off its other part so... got it replaced and its worse now


ITs really bad at a little above idle, and it seems to seddle down at higher rpm. But i'm afraid thats it just countering itself as the RPMs go higher.


when you rev the engine it dont feel like it vibrates much. It does vibrate while in park and neutral, but it vibrates a lot worse in drive. I mean a lot worse. Could this be driveline related? Maybe flywheel or torque converter. If my engine is sooo darn stock how could these thing malfuction?

I swear at 45MPH and certain RPm, forgot which, the car feels like i'm riding a darn horse bareback, so to speak, yes shane used to be a cowboy. hehe.


What could this be guys. my car is my baby, and i swear i will cry if shes really sick.





shane
Old Nov 13, 2004 | 10:16 PM
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Whats your oil pressure like? What does the oil look like?
Old Nov 13, 2004 | 10:18 PM
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oil opressure has always been above normal, 45 at idle when warm, 55 when cold, and up from there.


iunno, i am so scared. this car is my baby, i'm almost a fraid to tlel people the problem cause they'll think i'm stupid. I really love this car, my gf gets jealous when i tlak about my car. thansk how much i like her and how great i tlak about her.
Old Nov 13, 2004 | 10:20 PM
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do a FULL tune up on the vehicle then go from there
Old Nov 13, 2004 | 10:21 PM
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hehe, i was stupid whe i picked the darn thing up from the mechanics, i slit my darn pointy finger open while sticking it near the altenatore fan while it was on. no blood but theres nothing but shiny redness there. I stit the thing good.
Old Nov 13, 2004 | 10:23 PM
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Originally posted by THEGENERAL
do a FULL tune up on the vehicle then go from there

buddy get online please, and the cap and rotar are within 30k miles old, so they are great i have a Acell super coil on the distributor. the wires are good, and i have platinum plugs qwith also less then 30k miles.

I just dont get it, but will replace what i can tomorow before work.

I was told to unplug, a sngle wire, see if it acted differently. If so it wasnt that one. and so on until i found the plug thats the problem.
Old Nov 13, 2004 | 10:25 PM
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then also someone told me i coulda burnt a lifter with my new intake, but i doubt it. its it rotation. I know it.

It all happened after i took the darn AIR pump off and unused a/c pump and brackets off. This is gettting anooying.

and i think the onyl reason my balancer broke was because of the vibration that started becuase of this. good thing the new one has a 1 yr warentee.
Old Nov 13, 2004 | 10:26 PM
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Originally posted by therckid
hehe, i was stupid whe i picked the darn thing up from the mechanics, i slit my darn pointy finger open while sticking it near the altenatore fan while it was on. no blood but theres nothing but shiny redness there. I stit the thing good.
why would you post something like this .

do you just want people to flame you and mess with you on here ?

Old Nov 13, 2004 | 10:36 PM
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Is it missing of vibrating? Start all at once or did it get worse gradually? Sounds like a major vacuum leak, but your description of the problem might be totally different from how I would describe it.
Old Nov 13, 2004 | 10:37 PM
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It all happened after i took the darn AIR pump off and unused a/c pump and brackets off. This is gettting anooying.

My car worked, I fixed it, it doesn't work anymore. Well, Unfix it.


If it were me I would try putting some of those "unused" brackets back on.
Old Nov 13, 2004 | 10:39 PM
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cold they really be the darn problem?

i have a v-belt setup it shouldn't matter the least bit.
Old Nov 13, 2004 | 10:42 PM
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Originally posted by bulletboy29
Is it missing of vibrating? Start all at once or did it get worse gradually? Sounds like a major vacuum leak, but your description of the problem might be totally different from how I would describe it.

oh, after all the brakcets and crap were taken off was when it started, before that it ran perfectly fine.

It started all at once. With those brackets still on and my cai on i noticed a nice gain, but i wanted more and then this....
Old Nov 13, 2004 | 10:46 PM
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Originally posted by therckid
oh, after all the brakcets and crap were taken off was when it started, before that it ran perfectly fine.

Somebody hit this guy over the head with a shovel, before he does any more damage to his car.
Old Nov 13, 2004 | 10:50 PM
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no i left all the brackets the altenator needed, and i left eh Power steering brackets on too. why would the others make a difference?


fine i'll wake up a little earlier tomorow to instlal everything back the way it was o that i can rule that out for you guys.
Old Nov 13, 2004 | 10:53 PM
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You said "brackets and crap." What would the crap be in this case?
Old Nov 13, 2004 | 10:56 PM
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Originally posted by rustybluebird
Somebody hit this guy over the head with a shovel, before he does any more damage to his car.
i wasnt going to be that BLUNT about it but i have to agree
Old Nov 13, 2004 | 11:20 PM
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Guess he went outside to put the "crap" back on.
Old Nov 14, 2004 | 12:03 AM
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I'd replace these (actually, I did in the summer) - cap, rotor, coil, wires, plugs, oil, filter, fuel filter*, air filter(s), PCV valve, O2 sensor (only as a last resort though).

Couldn't hurt to run some fuel system cleaner through it either.

Then get the right tools and check check these - ignition timing, vacuum, fuel pressure, oil pressure (mechancal guage).

If you do all this, and I know it looks like a big list but its not, then you should find your problem somewhere.

*fuel filter could be so plugged up its causing a lean condition. I've never actually seen this, but I have heard of it happening, and that could cause a miss.
Old Nov 14, 2004 | 12:23 AM
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Originally posted by therckid
the cap and rotar are within 30k miles old, so they are great

the wires are good, and i have platinum plugs qwith also less then 30k miles.

with 30k miles on it then its not great usually thats about time to start a tune up in my cars and trucks ....
Old Nov 14, 2004 | 12:36 AM
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well... if i recall correctly, there are a couple different vacuum lines in the AIR system.

Did you plug those vacuum lines off? Or did you let them stay unhooked?

My money's on vacuum leak... someone above posted about it too I believe.
Old Nov 14, 2004 | 01:05 AM
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Did you take any spark plug wires off? Maybe didn't realise that they have to be put back in the right places.
Old Nov 14, 2004 | 01:07 AM
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1. Remedial English classes. As many as you can afford.
2. Shut off car, grab tools (if this is difficult, goto #15), open hood (if this gives you fits, goto #13) and take a deep breath. Good.
3. Buy a Dictionary and a book along the lines of ‘Writing English Properly for Dummies’. Read.
4. Take off the damn CAI.
5. Buy a book along the lines of ‘Common Sense for Dummies’. Read.
6. Inspect aforementioned CAI.
7. Remedial Arithmetic classes.
8. Any marks? Write down answer and put aside CAI.
9. Re-read aforementioned book.
10. Inspect the engine area where the CAI previously resided.
11. Purchase a dunce cap, put in corner with Dunce stool for some motivation.
12. Any marks on the belt(s), etc. etc.? Write down answer.
13. Purchase Manuals for your car such as the Haynes, Chilton’s, AAA, ‘Maintaining Your Car for Dummies, WD guide to under your hood, etc. As many as you can afford. Read. (If you arrived here from #2 goto #1)
14. If there are no marks to indicate that the CAI was being rubbed, struck, wobbled etc. start the car and see if the noise persists. Shut off motor once the answer is derived.
15. Purchase a few books along the lines of ‘How to Use Tools for Dummies’, ‘How to Identify Tools for Dummies’ etc. (is that a publicly traded company?). Read. (If you arrived here from #2 goto #1)
16. If the noise persists use a mechanics stethoscope to narrow down the area that is producing the annoying <me> noise. Should you not have one, use a piece of damn hose, don’t know what I mean? Learn how to SEARCH, , cerco, psaxé, buscar, busca, suche, etc., etc.
17. Purchase the workbook for the aforementioned ‘Common Sense for Dummies’ book… make that two. Complete one.
18. Once pinpointed troubleshoot (Check for proper wire routing, plugs ok? cap rotor wires ok? etc.). Wha? Ok, go to the next step.
19. If you can’t troubleshoot, don’t know it’s meaning (you bout a dictionary right?), can’t place the context etc., stop working on your poor, poor car!
20. PLEASE start trying to learn some **** on your own instead of expecting everyone on here to hold your hand. You have the desire, now FOCUS!
Old Nov 14, 2004 | 01:13 AM
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I think it's time:

"put the brain down before you hurt something"

Red Devil's approach works, too.
Old Nov 14, 2004 | 01:20 AM
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I saw all this coming way last year with this guys first post...
It sort of reminds me of a dog that can't get the attention he needs the right way, so he does it by ****ing up.

More advice... Guys who are competent mechanics got to where they are by taking what they do seriously. Which is what you should start doing or you're going to feel the pain right in your wallet. d00d!
Old Nov 14, 2004 | 01:50 AM
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GET A MENTOR! Really dude im 17 and work fix and repair all my cars and you know how i learned? Going to my dad and asking him hey can you help me? Or i just watch him and his buddys wrench away. If your parents arnt gearheads id advise you go to a local hangout make friends and watch them work and ask question dont be afrid to look uneducated about cars cuase no offence you dont seem like you dont know much as of now! Dont play the know it all in school insted of doing that take a class like i did! Practial engine mechanics did wonders for me! I learned about all tpyes of engines learned to fab and weld ect. Take this as a grain of salt for all i care what do i know i was once you!
Old Nov 14, 2004 | 02:01 AM
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this guys a **** tard... ***... i try to stop the flameing but he brought it upon himslef... i'm 17 i know more then this dingalberry hanign form an *** crack.... not that age has anythign to do with it... i just take what i learn and do seriusly(spelling)

hey were can i take english classes i can't spell...

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