new motor, car either backfires threw exhaust or tb
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new motor, car either backfires threw exhaust or tb
Got the new motor in and it wont run. It seems like its trying to start but then it backfires like a shotgun. At first we got it close to 6deg advanced with a light but when when my buddy started adjusting the dizzy it would either pop out of the throttle body or backfire really loud. Could mis-adjusted valves or a bad vacuum leak cause these problems?
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Re: new motor, car either backfires threw exhaust or tb
Is it 180 out? Like said above it could be too tight on the valve lash. Plug wires could also be crossed. Is is it a 4-7 swap cam?
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Re: new motor, car either backfires threw exhaust or tb
The distributor shows 3 deg advanced right now with the timing light so I cant see how its off if the #1 spark is being thrown in accordance with the harmonic balancer timing marks.
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Re: new motor, car either backfires threw exhaust or tb
That being the case I'd try running the valves again but first turn it 180 just to see what happens. It's easy to do and less time consuming than relashing all the valves. Why not try it just to see?
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Re: new motor, car either backfires threw exhaust or tb
Im going to relash the valves and if that doesnt do it I might have to take the Superram intake off and buy a new set of gaskets........ theres probally an intake leak,, that intake was a PITA like no other to install for the first time.
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Re: new motor, car either backfires threw exhaust or tb
It's a cam that changes the firing order. The numbers 4 and 7 are swapped. Instead of 18436572 it's 18736542.
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Come on, guys, it wouldn't run at all if the distributor was 180 degrees off.
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Re: new motor, car either backfires threw exhaust or tb
My friends have been saying it must be really off or 180 from the start, Ill try it and see what happens.... thanks for all the help thus far.
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Re: new motor, car either backfires threw exhaust or tb
It seems like it's gotta be that. It's worth a shot and won't take very long.
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Re: new motor, car either backfires threw exhaust or tb
That is correct. It does NOT run. The video is the car running with the old 350 in it(which turned out to have 3 broken pistons). The new 385 is what I have in the car now.
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Re: new motor, car either backfires threw exhaust or tb
Dizzy was 180, shes running now but the superram has a massive intake leak,,,,, Im going to order a new gasket kit and now that I have some experience putting the intake together Im confident itll be leak free this time
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