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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 09:40 PM
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Car: 91 Trans Am GTA
Engine: Tpi 5.7
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starting issue

I am having an issue with starting. 13 months ago I put a remaned starter in worked great for 6 months and all of a sudden one day after a long trip my starter didnt crank till the car cooled down then cranked right up. I warrantied that starter and got another remaned and worked great but didnt sound right. 2 weeks ago same issue again only does it mid day when engine is hot. My thought was the starter was over heating till I put another starter in and with the engine cold I didnt 1 crank or noise from it, so I got a 4th remaned starter once again after a long trip shut it of and wouldnt crank till it cooled down. Now I got upgraded to a new starter it works better but some times first turn of the key when hot I just get a click from the starter. This is driving me nuts I drive my car every day and I take long trips with this car. ( I was told my battery was too weak because it was 8.5 years old so I put a new one in and still having the issue. I also cleaned the the terminals at the battery and the starter) Sorry about the long post but I need to get to the bottom of this. Thank you.
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Old Jul 6, 2011 | 11:02 AM
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Car: LOWERED ♦ CRIMSON METALFLAKE
Engine: ► 400 KUBES ◄
Transmission: 765R4
Axle/Gears: EATON POSI 4.56
Starting Trouble

Use a spare headlight (because it puts a load on the circuit) and connect it across the M terminal of the starter and ground.

Then connect a voltmeter across the M terminal and ground.

Make the leads long enuff to take the lamp and voltmeter into the cockpit.

Under normal circumstances you will see about 9 volts on the meter when cranking.

On the occasions the starter fails to crank note the voltage.


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Old Jul 6, 2011 | 06:45 PM
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Re: starting issue

after I note the voltage what am I looking with this test
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Old Jul 6, 2011 | 07:24 PM
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Car: 1992 RS
Engine: Carbed 350
Transmission: 700R4
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Re: starting issue

Sounds like something besides starter - I'd look into the neutral safety switch, or ignition switch. Mine would just "click" sometimes - turns out the neutral safety switch connector wasn't staying fully on - a zip tie solved my problem!
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Old Jul 6, 2011 | 07:38 PM
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Re: starting issue

where is the n.s.s located
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Old Jul 8, 2011 | 08:25 AM
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Neutrality

The NSS is mounted on the right side of the shifter.

You can temporarily jump it to see if the problem goes away.

However if that isn’t the problem:

The voltage will tell you what the problem is and what direction to turn.

If it’s about 12 while trying to crank, but the starter is not turning - the problem is in the starter.

If it’s under 8 while trying to crank - the problem is excessive resistance in the starting circuit.

Therefore if it is in the starting circuit you can move the probe you applied to terminal M at the starter, to the positive terminals at the solenoid, then keep moving up the line till the problem shows itself.


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