Tech / General Engine Is your car making a strange sound or won't start? Thinking of adding power with a new combination? Need other technical information or engine specific advice? Don't see another board for your problem? Post it here!
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: CARiD

custom fuel pump setup outside of tank?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 2, 2013 | 11:57 PM
  #1  
Bobby_80s's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member
15 Year Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,698
Likes: 0
From: Connecticut
Car: 1987 Camaro, 1986 Trans AM
Engine: V6 2.8 multi-port and V8 5.0 FI
Transmission: 5-Speed and Automatic
Axle/Gears: no idea
custom fuel pump setup outside of tank?

Is it possible or has anyone already done it so that the fuel pump is outside of the tank somewhere like in older style cars?

just curious.

thanks
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2013 | 12:13 AM
  #2  
Tuned Performance's Avatar
Sponsor
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Community Favorite
iTrader: (94)
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 16,695
Likes: 979
From: Mile High Country !!!
Car: 1967 Camaro, 91 z28
Engine: Lb9
Transmission: M20
Axle/Gears: J65 pbr on stock posi 10bolt
Re: custom fuel pump setup outside of tank?

On a thirdgen there is a baffle in the tank to help prevent cavitation durning acceleration and hard cornering. You can sump a tank or instal a surge tank if the gravity feed is still causing pump cavitation.
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2013 | 12:23 AM
  #3  
vetteoz's Avatar
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 7,736
Likes: 14
From: Not in Kansas anymore
Car: 82 Z28
Engine: 383 SP EFI/ 4150 TB
Transmission: T400
Axle/Gears: QP 9" 3.73
Re: custom fuel pump setup outside of tank?

Originally Posted by Bobby_80s
so that the fuel pump is outside of the tank somewhere like in older style cars?
Just got to find somewhere at rear to mount it ,
Has to be a rear because elec pump push and below tank level so it will prime
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2013 | 05:57 AM
  #4  
Ozz1967's Avatar
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,795
Likes: 15
From: St. Cloud, MN
Car: 1984 Trans Am
Engine: LS1383 in work
Transmission: Magnum F - to be installed
Axle/Gears: Zexel Torsen 3.73, 28-spline mosers
Re: custom fuel pump setup outside of tank?

I've burned up two Holley Black pumps trying to use the factory fuel fuel lines in the span of 6 months. The fuel lines come up and out of the tank, so fuel goes back into the tank causing the pump to run dry every time you cold start the car. This causes excessive heat and ruined both my pumps. I originally installed the new pumps because my new engine block wasn't drilled for a mechanical pump. After dropping near $400 for two pumps, I went with an intank pump. 3 years now and no issues. I would recommend against external pumps.
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2013 | 11:20 AM
  #5  
Bobby_80s's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member
15 Year Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,698
Likes: 0
From: Connecticut
Car: 1987 Camaro, 1986 Trans AM
Engine: V6 2.8 multi-port and V8 5.0 FI
Transmission: 5-Speed and Automatic
Axle/Gears: no idea
Re: custom fuel pump setup outside of tank?

I was just wondering what is involved in relocating the pump because I just had my first fuel pump experience in my POS Grand am 2004 at only 77k miles.

$860 to replace the pump because its inside the tank.

then my dad and his buddies talk about how its like $120-160 for a pump for their older cars back in the day and how they could replace the pump themselves because it wasnt in the tank.


and i have a 1986 trans am, 136,000 miles on it still stock pump but i dont know for how long and just was curious of options of avoiding the B.S. of dropping the tank.

I don't trust newer parts, they NEVER!!!!! last as long as stock parts no matter what version you buy or how much you spend.

i don't have a lift so dropping the tank when the time comes will be so much of a pain if possible at all in my own garage.

and i am alll for doing a hack job and cutting a back door in the trunk area but then i gota hack up the fuel lines and install fresh fuel line connectors.

so basically what I am suggesting, once my stock trans am pump goes I have a feeling I will be replacing the pump more often meaning the next one won't last another 130,000 miles. and i just would like to be able to swap it out EASILY!
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2013 | 01:03 PM
  #6  
Ozz1967's Avatar
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,795
Likes: 15
From: St. Cloud, MN
Car: 1984 Trans Am
Engine: LS1383 in work
Transmission: Magnum F - to be installed
Axle/Gears: Zexel Torsen 3.73, 28-spline mosers
Re: custom fuel pump setup outside of tank?

It took me and a friend the better part of 9 hours to drop the rear, drop the tank, install and wire the intank pump and then put everything back up. I had air tools (life saver) and I used two jacks, 5 jackstands, and alot of beer. My car didn't originally come with an in-tank pump, but I got tired of eating after market pumps. IF you go aftermarket in-line, make sure you mod your fuel tank to have a sump at the bottom of the tank where the fuel comes out. This way the fuel is gravity feeting to the in-line fuel pump so it never runs dry.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
theshackle
Tech / General Engine
4
Mar 5, 2017 06:37 PM
beachrodder
Tech / General Engine
7
Aug 25, 2015 08:05 AM
AkDrifted
Engine/Drivetrain/Suspension Parts for Sale
6
Aug 17, 2015 07:45 PM
kyleb24
Camaros for Sale
2
Aug 15, 2015 08:24 AM
Kaweh
TBI
3
Aug 9, 2015 02:54 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:54 AM.