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Old Jun 8, 2014 | 06:42 PM
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Should i go from 3.42 to 3.23 gears?

I am going to be rebuilding my rear end this week and am looking for advise on the ring and pinion ratio.
Currently I am running 3.42 gears, t5 trans, 26 in tires, with a 5.7L engine.
I don't like how I run through the first 4 gears so quickly, in 4th 40 mph at 2000 rpm.
On the other hand I don't like how low the highway 5th gear rpms are, 70 mph is 1750 rpm.
I'm considering 3.23 gears or 3.42 gears. The car is just a daily driver that with a built racing engine. It has a high rpm power band for racing purposes. I'm currently getting 12 mpg city, 28 mpg highway.
Just sharing my build setup and asking for recommendations if I should change the ratio to 3.23.
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Old Jun 8, 2014 | 07:14 PM
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Re: Should i go from 3.42 to 3.23 gears?

Sounds to me like you need a different 5th gear, and the 3.42 rear would then be just fine.

Find yourself a .73 5th from out of one of the high-perf V8 T-5s (LB9 or L69), to replace the .63 LG4/L03 grocery-cart one you have now.
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Old Jun 8, 2014 | 07:31 PM
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Re: Should i go from 3.42 to 3.23 gears?

I believe the 5th gear is 0.50, The trans only has 20000 miles on it so no need to change it
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Old Jun 8, 2014 | 10:41 PM
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Re: Should i go from 3.42 to 3.23 gears?

Fifth in a T5 is either .63 or .73. Sixth gear on a T56 is .5.
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Old Jun 9, 2014 | 07:05 AM
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Re: Should i go from 3.42 to 3.23 gears?

Sorry, I just redid the math, the 5th gear ratio for this t5 is about 0.56
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Old Jun 9, 2014 | 07:23 AM
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Re: Should i go from 3.42 to 3.23 gears?

Sorry, just physically look at the gears themselves, the ratios are .63 and .73. For yours the same as everybody else's.
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Old Jun 9, 2014 | 07:31 AM
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Re: Should i go from 3.42 to 3.23 gears?

I'm not trying to sound rude or argue. It's 0.56 here's the link to the 5th gear
http://m.ebay.com/itm/WORLD-CLASS-0-...-/151019821128

I'm starting to lean towards getting 3.23 gears
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Old Jun 9, 2014 | 09:55 AM
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Re: Should i go from 3.42 to 3.23 gears?

Close ratio T5 has a .73 5th gear, otherwise the 5th gear is .63.
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Old Jun 9, 2014 | 10:33 AM
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Re: Should i go from 3.42 to 3.23 gears?

Originally Posted by paul_huryk
Close ratio T5 has a .73 5th gear, otherwise the 5th gear is .63.
That's for original cars. I specifically remember rebuilding mine with a 0.56 OD
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Old Jun 9, 2014 | 11:46 AM
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Re: Should i go from 3.42 to 3.23 gears?

Originally Posted by LostX
That's for original cars. I specifically remember rebuilding mine with a 0.56 OD
so when you changed to the different 5th gear ratio, did you take the rear end ratio in to account ?
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Old Jun 10, 2014 | 06:39 AM
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Re: Should i go from 3.42 to 3.23 gears?

Your 'racing engine' isn't gonna like the 3.23s as much as 3.42s. Hell, I'd go with 3.73s.
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Old Jun 10, 2014 | 05:05 PM
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Re: Should i go from 3.42 to 3.23 gears?

If you have MS Excel this spreadsheet that I made will let you look at rear axle, tire, and transmission calculations to compare RPM at a given speed.

http://www.12bolt.com/gearing_calculator


If you have an engine with torque band shifted higher the RPM range than OE you will want a lower axle gear (numerically higher - at least the 3.42 maybe 3.73) for the engine to be in its happy place on the highway. Going to the 3.23 will make a very marginal improvement to the first 4 gears (you'll hardly notice) and be a big disappointment on the highway if it revs too low now. JMO
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Old Jun 10, 2014 | 05:22 PM
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Re: Should i go from 3.42 to 3.23 gears?

I decided on 3.23 since I want more top end out of the first 4 gears. 5th gear is pretty much useless for accelerating but it's a great highway OD. Basically 4th gear will be a little more useful for cruising between 40 and 50 mph.
5th gear basically gets me about 30 mpg at 75 mph with a carbureted race engine 350
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Old Jun 10, 2014 | 06:22 PM
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Re: Should i go from 3.42 to 3.23 gears?

Your car, up to you.

Originally Posted by LostX
Currently I am running 3.42 gears, t5 trans, 26 in tires...... in 4th 40 mph at 2000 rpm.
The above numbers don't add up. Are you sure you don't already have 3.73s??
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Old Jun 10, 2014 | 06:24 PM
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Re: Should i go from 3.42 to 3.23 gears?

Originally Posted by Bow_Tied
Your car, up to you.



The above numbers don't add up. Are you sure you don't already have 3.73s??
100percent sure I have 12:41 ring pinion
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Old Jun 10, 2014 | 06:28 PM
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Re: Should i go from 3.42 to 3.23 gears?

Hmm, perhaps your tach or speedo or both are out a bit? 4th is 1:1, with 26" tires at 40mph should equal about 1750-1775RPM

Edit - 235 60 R15s?
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Old Jun 10, 2014 | 06:29 PM
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Re: Should i go from 3.42 to 3.23 gears?

Speedo is correct. I used the gauge as well as gps, not sure about the tach
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Old Jun 10, 2014 | 06:44 PM
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Re: Should i go from 3.42 to 3.23 gears?

Not trying to say you need to change your plans, just wanted to be sure you had the right data to decide with.

I spent a lot of time trying to decide what the perfect combo of axle and 1st/OD was for another application. It always seems to be a bit of a compromise with a 5 speed, especially in a heavier car (I was looking at options for a Chevelle, similar size tire also with 3.42s) so I relate to the challenges. A big part of it is if you like shifting a lot or not. If not, going to the 3.23 or further is the right idea. I hope the OD still works well for you.
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