ATF safe to use in power steering system?
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Car: 92 Formula WS6, T-top
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ATF safe to use in power steering system?
I've read some guys prefer ATF, but want to make sure I dont have trouble. I need to flush my system, and I thought I might switch to ATF if I can, I've heard it works better, and I have almost a gallon of dex/merc sitting around the garage not being used. 92 Formula with L98 btw....
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Car: 92 Formula WS6, T-top
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Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: Limited slip, 3.23 10 bolt
Re: ATF safe to use in power steering system?
One of the arguments was that dex/merc behaves better in cold weather and is easier on the pump. Sort of makes sense, but I don't know if it's gospel. But since I don't have enough PSF and have a gallon of dex/merc, I may use it as long as it won't harm the system in any way. I'll get a few more rounds of opinion before I do it. Thx!
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Car: 86 IROC
Engine: 5.0 TPI
Transmission: 700-R-4
Axle/Gears: 2.73 open
Re: ATF safe to use in power steering system?
One of the arguments was that dex/merc behaves better in cold weather and is easier on the pump. Sort of makes sense, but I don't know if it's gospel. But since I don't have enough PSF and have a gallon of dex/merc, I may use it as long as it won't harm the system in any way. I'll get a few more rounds of opinion before I do it. Thx!
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Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: ATF safe to use in power steering system?
Ive never seen a plastic ps tank on a TPI 3rdgen?
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Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: ATF safe to use in power steering system?
I think the PS cap and that stick are plastic, tanks are metal. Most transmission filters are 1/2 or all plastic.
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Re: ATF safe to use in power steering system?
Pretty sure my tank is metal, I'll double check, but I think it is.
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Re: ATF safe to use in power steering system?
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Re: ATF safe to use in power steering system?
Yeah, I got that part. I know there's some plastic in the pump. But where there's smoke there's fire, I'll just get 4-5 bottles of PSF to do the flush to be safe. I accidentally contaminated the tank with a little water while doing a steering gear change, hence the flush. Rookie mistake, won't happen again. LOL Not a huge deal.....thx...
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Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
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Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: ATF safe to use in power steering system?
Just wondering what are the plastic parts in the tank?
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Re: ATF safe to use in power steering system?
All I know for sure is the cap and dipstick. I don't think there's anything else in there, at least not that I saw anyway. As far as the pump itself goes, idk, there may be a plastic impeller in there, or maybe some bushings?
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Re: ATF safe to use in power steering system?
the actual pump mechanism in GM stuff after 1990 is plastic, part of the cheapening of things I guess.if you disassemble a PS pump from ,say 1976 .and one from 1996. there is a LOT of things in there obviously NOT designed to last, but hey, what do I know.
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Re: ATF safe to use in power steering system?
Just asked a question. (Its what I do when I don't know ;-) )
I honestly haven't torn one apart for a loooong time, all the ones I've seen have metal veins in them.
I honestly haven't torn one apart for a loooong time, all the ones I've seen have metal veins in them.
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Car: 1989 Iroc-z
Engine: 350 TPI
Transmission: Auto 700R4
Axle/Gears: 9 bolt - 2.77
Re: ATF safe to use in power steering system?
I'm a Ford tech at a dealership in Cincinnati. Ford uses Mercon V for there power steering systems. On the bottles, it says transmission/power steering fluid. I guess they've been using it for like forever and still using it today for vehicles that still have a pump. Most of the vehicles today use electronic steering assist. Mercon V will be just fine to use with metal or plastic parts in pumps. I've switched to it in my Iroc. With the additives and cleaners in the fluid, it should keep your power steering working for a long time.
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Car: 1983 Z28
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Re: ATF safe to use in power steering system?
I've used both in other vehicles that I had and it seemed to make no difference (I think at one point I may have even had some mixed). One vehicle was a 2000 cavalier, and the other was a 96 jeep xj. No leaks, no losses, no issues. Of course I'd put power steering fluid in if I had it on hand, but if I couldn't get to the store then ATF did the job.
fyi the jeep had over 225,000 miles (those inline 6 cylinders are bulletproof) and the cavalier was pushing 135,000 when I sold them (still with no issues).
just my .02
fyi the jeep had over 225,000 miles (those inline 6 cylinders are bulletproof) and the cavalier was pushing 135,000 when I sold them (still with no issues).
just my .02
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