I was wondering if anyone thinks an 87' roc with the 5.7 could beat a 92' twin turbo stealth.

 

if the stealth has any mods at all its a big NO

 

TT stealth is a 15.0 sec car i believe... or close to that.

 

its a boat with a twin turbo motor...

those things are slow as all hell. i saw a guy beat one with a 14 second neon, yes, a NEON. my money is on the 'roc

 

The stealth is absouletly stock and a five speed. The kid can drive pretty good.

 

a twin turbo stealth is a 15.0 second car? BWHAHAHAHHAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

oooooooooooooooook keep thinking that guys

 

keep thinking that??? i believe it! my friend had a stock 5 speed NON TWIN TURBO stealth and he can pull 15's at the track. but he desided that the stealth was a POS and opted for a 94 mustang GT

 

well considering your car weighs about 3300lbs with and auto trans (probably a bit heavy but its close enough) and a two wheel drive r/t non turbo stealth is 3500lbs and the awd twin turbo is 3800lbs i think you have got a pretty damn good chance. I have seen many a "badazz" taken down buy something that has smaller hp and tq numbers but also has less weight to it. A stealth around a corner or a top speed is something to be reckoned with, but from a stop, unless really worked over, are just to damn heavy to move quickly.

 

and if you READ he asked about a TWIN TURBO Stealth


and besides that wasn't directed towards you that much anyway, it was directed at the other comment made about them beating boat achors so chill out and some dip

 

ever think it was out of tune, funny thing is i knew someone with a bone stock TT Stealth that was running 13.8's, boat anchors eh?

don't assume all of them are slow because one was out of tune..

 

i know this is about TWIN TURBO STEALTHS, that why i stated that the NON TURBO one that my friend had ran 15's. everyone knows that the TURBO one is...or at least should be faster than that. it was stated for a comparison. it may be faster than 15.0's...hell iv seen many VR4's running 15.2's stock at the strip. still havnet seen one in the 14's yet. i guess it all depends on whos driving it, and how well they launch it....and how in tune it is

 

ill stand corrected on the boat anchor comment... did a little research and found they run about13.8-13.9 stock with a good good driver.

i cant really stand corrected on what i saw in the neon beating one though, although it was a built up 4 banger running about 11:1 compression and heavy engine mods. so it was probably a hihg 13 car when the two raced and the stealth did get whooped, although that can be attributed to the stealth guy being abad driver. who knows... sorry fly89gta, i was wrong....

 

Don't assume all of them are fast then. Not EVERYTHING with a turbo/supercharger is super fast. Turbo Diesel F150 anyone?

 

It's a turbo F-250 and they can pull a 8-9 sec 0-60 with just a chip. If I tune it I can pull a 7.0 or better depending on how long you want it to live. FYI Stock numbers are better than 10 sec 0-60

 

ok who is assuming? not me, i've seen em run high 13's with my own eyes...so um, nice try

 

oh i'm not disputing the fact the you saw a neon beat one, i wouldn't doubt it at all, just cause someone has a fast car doesn't mean they can drive

 

You saw one that probably wasn't stock. So ummm back up your statement that since one is fast ALL of them run high 13s
You're probably the same kind of kid that thinks since he saw a celica that looked stock run low 12s that ALL of them run low 12s. Not all of them are fast there tough guy.

 

lol, ok, well considering the one I saw was my friends and i know for a fact it was bone stock, did i say they were ALL fast? um, no..i was merely saying they aren't boat anchors, stop twisting my words and get a ****in life, thank you good bye have a nice day

 

so mr. know it all, what do they run, what have you seen em run? oh that's right u probably don't go to the track, you're too busy whackin off...

if you would READ my words i said "i knew someone that had a bone stock one" not "i saw a bone stock one" ****in learn to read or go back to school...

 

We all know that stock celica's dont run 12's, so **** poor example there

Its not far fetched that a stock TT Stealth ran high 13's, go look the official times man, not far off at all, but wait you shouldn't have to look up the times cause u know everything

 

reading my above posts i kinda came off as an ***, but there was no need to jump down my throat for making a comment that wasn't really far-fetched, but ah well, if you want to continue to argue with me i'm game

 

Why don't you just make your posts say "Postcount ++" instead of separating a single thought into several different posts? You jump down my throat for saying that not all are fast and there are "factory freaks" like the 12.7 second stock LS1s or the 13.8 second stealth Just because you saw ONE fast one doesn't mean any other will be as fast because unless he has had it since new he doesn't know if it IS indeed truly "bone stock."

 

lol, i kept thinking of stuff to say, and i was in no way trying to increase my post count lol

seriously i never said ALL TT stealths were 13.8 cars, but they aren't boat anchors, seriously, check out the official times, they aren't 15 second cars, i'm not partial to them either cause i think they're ugly, i'd much rather a 3000GT if i had to choose...

 

Alright here is some FACT...

My first run at the track with the lincoln I was lined up with a 3000GT VR4(same car as the stealth R/T TT)

He ran a 13.1@105 mph. When he came back around into the staging lanes I was checking out his car and asked him what he had for mods after we had talked awhile about all his appearance mods and he told me all he had was a cold air intake,which I already could see, a manual boost controller,and a performance clutch. And I asked him if he was running alot of boost and he said no because his fuel system was still stock. I also ran a GSX that day which ran a 13.1@104, are you guys gonna say those are 15-16 second rides too

 

My best friend owns a 3000GT VR4. (Same exact car as the stealth). The car is a 15 second car if you forget that you are drtiving an all wheel drive vehicle. If you rev the car up to 4 grand, and then feather the clutch in quickly while flooring it, the car can easily run low 14s no sweat. It will take an Iroc pretty readily.

-- Henry

 

thank you!

 

im gonna have to back up fly89gta now...

i searched through about 4 or 5 sites before i came to the conclusion that i was wrong. all of the sites listed Stealth TTs as running 13.7-14.0

its ok to be wrong, just be able to admit it.. geezus.

 

the AWD should give it the advantage off the line.

 

A stock R/T stealth in good shape should be able to do at least a 14.0, sometimes a tenth or 2 faster. They have good '60s too, AWD helps that out a bit after all. Sometimes as they get up in age though, they slow down quite a bit if they aren't maintained. Hate to say but I've seen it happen.

 

race him from a roll and i'd put money on the IROC.

Race him from a stop and i'll put double the money on him (assuming he knows how to launch it). The best launch on your IROC is still gonna land you about car-length and a half behind a good luanch on the stealth, and i don't think your gonna be able to make that up on him...

just my .02

Eric

 

Don't mention it!

 

TT stealths have like 300hp i was gonna buy one over the roc but decided not to. plus AWD means a NICE FREAKING HOLE SHOT, id say youd get manhandled cuz once he gets ya outta the hole ur gonna have 55hp to catch up on...even a retard could send that car to low 14s...it is true they are heavy, yet twinturbo with a TINY mod could send them to the 13s...

 

the problem with those cars is that if u break something with the AWD be prepared to take out a second mortgage to fix it

 

I'd go so far as to say the same goes for breaking nearly ANYTHING on the car! I know some guys who work at a dode dealership... they charged a guy $400 for an alternator a while back. I don't think that was installed either, but even if it was

 

well the Oldsmobile dealer wnated to charge my friend $450 for an alternator for an '99 Oldsmobile Alero, labor not included. The Alero of course being the same car as the Grand Am, which is reasonable popular. Dealers are just insane with parts.

 

The kid with the stealth showed me the motor and that thing is crammed in there. I would hate to work on it. I would charge an arm and a leg to fix it to.

 

3700 lbs is the figure I've seen most for those cars...
AWD 320 Hp V6

I don't understand why they would choose a v6...

but regardless, those numbers say high 13's to me... and that's also what all the mags say.

Now, would I ever buy a dodge?

NO! here are a couple examples of the fine automobile record they have off the top of my head (faulty parts of course):

Caravan Trannies
Neon head gaskets
Stratus motors

 

They chose a 6 because Mitsubishi felt that was their most effecieint bet. It produces more than enough power, the suspension in that car is quite excellent and I imagine it could handle twice the horsepower it has and still be safe, however 300 still feels great in that car. So why bother adding more litres and making the fuel economy suffer, and the whole car weigh more? They managed to get decent output out of a smaller engine and thus get less weight and better mileage. Thats why they do not offer an 8 cylinder engine. It is only American companies like our beloved GM that can't produce effecient engines so they have to throw cubic inches at the problem.

As to buying a dodge, if you look at the VIN plate in the engine it says:

"Made by Mitsubishi motors for the Dodge Car Company". The stealth is a 3000GT w/ several different body panels. Every switch and button in a stealth fits the same button in the GT, same engine, same suspension, same seats, same steering wheel, ... So its not about whether or not you would buy a dodge or about problems with dodge cars. As the car is a Mitsubishi, not a dodge.

Anybody ever see an Infinity G20's engine bay? Its RIDICULOUS. I had to change the starter motor in one once, one of the hardest things I've ever had to do in a car.

-- Henry

-- Henry

 

I understand why they chose a six, I have nothing against smaller motors making lots of power.

But... why would they chose a V6 over an I6? makes no sense...

 

Eh? What are you thinking?

 

I believe the TT AWD Stealth/3000GT started out at 300 hp when they first came out and made there way up to 320hp in later years. You can't always go by what you saw someone run at the strip, because, plenty of people make half-*** runs. Motor Trend had the 320 hp 3000 GT at 13.6 in the quarter. However, I think they only got like 14 for the convertible. And, yes, it will launch hard on the street.

 

i have a question. are ALL stealth R/T's TT? because i outrun one on the interstate, but it was pretty close, and all i know is that it said Stealth R/T on it and had dual Rice Burners for exhaust. and i also know he was tryin mighty hard by the look on his face to keep up

 

NO, there was an R/t v6 n/a fwd. That was probably what you found. The twin turbos have little lettering or badges (not real sure its been so long) on the side that say twin turbo and or awd (its been awhile since i have seen one.)

 

o ok i thought that was the case. but traction had nothing to do with our race. no no, i caught our friend on good 'ol I-5 hee hee hee

 

Even the NAs on a highway are something to fear though, because it drag limits at 140 mph (give or take a bit, depending on weight and all sorts of other factors), however the suspension on those cars is so well done that they are stable and can hold the road at 140. Whereas our live-axle f-bodies are all over the highway at 140. So in a good highway race those are something fierce. The trick with them, is to deal with them in a straight line from a standstill. The manuals are a little slower than 350 in the quarter mile, and the automatics are considerably slower than a 305 in the quarter mile (stock for stock)

-- Henry

 

i ran a 13.6 when i was bone stock and with boost controller, intake, and exhaust i am at 12.8 in my 3000gt

91-93 stealth/3000gt's had 300 horse stock so they are good for high 13's

 

The motor still sits the wrong way. It's just not natural. The V-6 barely fits, no way an I6 would or a v-8 for that matter. They look cool, but I'd rather have a supra or RX-7. At least you might be able to work on them.

 

supra=yes, rx7=no they break down too fast. But i agree totally with the supra thing, inline is way better. at 80,000 miles the gay rotor breaks down and needs a rebuild, they are sweet looking though

 

So have they raced yet or what? After reading all this stuff my curiosity is peaked. I like to favor the iroc.

 

my RA at school's parents have a 3000gt vr4, and he says he could take me. we're probably gonna race during the spring.

i'm kinda curious to see who would win this one...

not sure what year his is...