Ok after going through this list: http://www.geocities.com/edmodscarspecs/

I realized that this sleeper, grandma gocery shopping car does 1/4 time in 15 seconds!

Thats some fast time coming from a measly 2.2L if i'm correct.

U know this car perfectly resembles the threat that Buick Grand Nationals have on LS1 and LT1 guys. There fast "sleepers".

Anyways what are the outcome u think if i ran one of these. Keep in my mind my car is stock right now until Fall hits and i work on it. But the good thing is very few were made so thats good.

And in general whats your guys opinion on this car vs our 3rd gen F-body cars?

 

I guess no one here knows about the Spirit R/T?....hmm, anyways.

 

In the late 80's early 90's Mopar came out with turbo 2.2, and 2.5 litre 4 cylinders for their compact cars. These cars ran mid to low 15s stock and with a little work most can easily run well into the 13s. My friend was thinking of buying an '87 Dodge Daytona Shelby Z turbo 2.2L. They are not bad cars at all and will absolutely kill any stock 305. Most of the cars that were turbo were stick only and rare. A lot were specially modded by Shelby but they still are just turbo 4 cylinders with FWD. There are websites that describe what i'm talking about pretty well. Maybe someone can back me up. Without a 350 or a few serious 305 mods (heads, cam, intake, exhaust, carb, plenum, ultimate tbi mods, new gears) that Mopar can really surprise some of us at thirdgen. As for your car, you should take a stock one easily. Have fun. He'd kill me.

~Matt

 

I had heard about this car before but didn't know what they had. I think that 15 second 1/4 pass is a little underrated because they had a pretty powerful engine in a light car:

2.2L 4 Cylinder 224 hp Turbo Gas
* Horsepower: 224 @ 4800rpm
* Torque: 210 @ 2400rpm
*Curb Weight: 2,801 lbs.
I think this car is definately a sleeper, but like Matt86t/a said you should be able to take one. Against a 305 TPI I think it would be very tough for one us to take one, but I think it would win vs any other third gen.

 

yeah i saw one in the papper, it was 4,800, they said it ran 14.8.
it was a four door grocery getting weekend racing sleeper.

 

my stock time was 15.4 it will be close

 

The early to mid '90's Dodge Dusters are bigtime sleepers! They've got those little 2.2 Turbos and are good for 14's......stock! Theres a guy around my way who's got one and he did something with the wastegate on the turbo, CAI, header, and exhaust and he's now in the 11's. Its a 5 spd. of course. But still, fast as hell for a 4 banger grany car!:hail:

 

Look at my sig below, Look at what my 2.5 turbo Dodge Shadow can do, Not bad for a 4 banger, By the way, The Duster's arent Granny car's, A friend of mine has a 1993 Daytona IROC R/T which puts out 225 hp, 0-60 in 6.1 seconds, FAST AS HELL

 

:hail: :hail: :hail: Turbo 2.2 OMNI GLH-S (, the lightest car ever offered with this motor).

 

Well i still wouldnt want to run any of them when i'm stock. Only when i feel confident enough to blow the doors out of them would i run one. Why? Cause i wanna be sure i win. U say i can take a stock one easily, well thats good! But what if a modded one pulls up...not good. Bottom line i need mods, which will be on the way soon...

Why the hell would they make those "granny" cars so fast? Whats the point? My only guess was to compete with another car out there that was quick, and in the same class.

 

Well for more info hit up: http://www.pinnaclecda.com/shelbydod...na_history.htm
There's info on all the turbo Mopars. I think Mopar came out with these cars to battle the f-bodies. The first time they started production was i think 84 because they were fed up with not having any cars to beat them. The cars they made were fater than the 305s, more reliable, and they got much better gas mileage. That site may say it, i haven't looked through it too well. Don't quote me on this, i'm no expert.

~Matt

 

there was one in oconto falls a few years back......i guess the motor was designed by lotus?? but i guess it also had some problems with the heads, they kept cracking or something, have to keep replacing them every so many miles. and if i am correct aren't they all white? i have also heard of some red ones too.

 

A friend of mine is into these cars big-time. He has a 1985 Shelby Charger 5 speed that has been converted to turbo 2 specs, and has some port work and gasket matching. He ran an 8.785 in the 1/8th with a lot of wheelspin. He also has a stock 1987 Charger GLHS, and for a FWD 4 cylinder, it is fast. I don't think that any of the 305 powered cars that aren't modified can take those cars stock. They are fast, light, and 'don't get no respect' by most people until they are looking at the tail lights dissapearing. Don't get me wrong, I don't like FWD, and I have always been a Pontiac fan, but you gotta respect a car that can run 13 second times with only a few hundred dollars worth of mods. :hail:

A 350 car would probably be a driver's race against most of them. You would at least have a good chance, IMHO.

 

Thats exactly why i think the Dodge Spirit R/T is the like the Buick Grand Nationals for LS1 guys, its almost the same thing for us 3rd gen.

Anyways from what ive read, those cars are high manteniance and break down to easy, to me thats to much headache. It seems like Lotus didnt do all its math when they made those 2.2L engines.

In fact i think they just about as many as those as they did making TTA's. And i have never seen a TTA in person, so i doubt i'll ever see those cars.

By the way yesturday i checked the Woodward Cruise, which is in Michigan, and damn it was packed, and its not even the official day yet which is Sat the 17th.
At one point there were like 8 Dodge Vipers cruising together!

 

that spirit r/t would win. the spirit r/t was the first production car ever to have 100hp per liter. its a dohc headed 2.2l. the head is of lotus design. the glhs omni is a sohc 2.2l@175hp. my omni ran 14.2@102 getting spark blow out all the way down the track and a 2.5 60ft. thats with bolt ons. stock motor,cam,head,turbo,manifolds etc. only mods on that run was a a555 trans from a daytona,custom tune,+40 mopar injectors, big fmic, manual boost controller set to 24psi and a cut off exhaust. way faster than my iroc by far. with the 50 trim and a 2.5l i went a little faster but had some problems. when it ran good i was neck and neck with my buddies 6.0 6 speed gto. he traps 109 in the 1/4. sold the 50 trim. now im back to running a stock turbo. dont let the granny car fool ya. those r/t spirts can be a hand full. with a boost controller and a hacked off exhaust he can be in mid 14's range. think of it as the srt4's grandpa.

 

... wow, old thread.

 

hah. Thread resurection.

 

why not? cops never look at you. you have a sleeper that gets good mpg. fwd so what. learn to drive. imagine. the look on a corvette owners face when you wax that *** with their girl in the car. priceless.

 

lol sorry, some guy posted this on turbododge.com. i didnt realize this was that old

 

yeah those turbo guys are getting pretty fast. saw this car on their site. with a 3.0. but i have to say i have never seen one look like this!

 

We had them from the factory too, and will run low nines w/very little work done to them...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b8hPgGDdw4

 

It is always fun to see two worlds come together, even if the thread was old. (*laugh*)

My 92 Daytona IROC R/T ran 13.901 @101.174 mph totally stock, and the guy I bought it from said, that the Daytona ran as well as his stock 93 Trans Am when he took both to the track. I can definitely say, that there is no way my 92 Camaro RS w/ the 305 TBI can keep up with the Daytonas I own. The Daytona and Spirit R/T both came with the same drivetrain.

The 87 Daytona Shelby Z turbo had a bit less power, but it was still good for 14s, and it was also one of the faster US production cars of the time.

Here is a picture of my 92 Daytona IROC R/T at a local car show on October 22, 2011:



Here is an older shot of my 87 Daytona Shelby Z (it is currently under construction and needs paint):

 

yeah but we get better gas mileage

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0Rd0...e_gdata_player

Here's a v6 junkyard motor.

Personally I had my camaro for awhile. I liked it. It was just never fast. If i did it again I'd LSX swap it. Just cost wise you can't beat a turbo dodge.

 

89 TTA' MF'ers!

 

Heres my old 85 Daytona Turbo Z, California Car.. T1 5 speed. I miss that car..

 

There is a member on this site that has the mitsubishi version of the car (or rather this is more probably the dodge version of the mitsubishi). I cant remember his name, but he was modding it to like 600hp or something.

 

she looked good man!!

 

Yup. Who says Dodge didn't have any performance in the 80s?

 

I. Would. Never. Ever. Be. Seen. In. One. Of. Those. Things.

 

but you would be seen getting your *** handed to you by one

 

 

word they are very gay looking. quick for what they were, but gay.

 

I dont know about gay, agressivly ugly maybe. I don't actually mind the looks, but I perfer a thirdgen's looks.

 

bet ya titles on the chitty, i mean chevy for my RT ill smoke ya on half the cylinders

 

I also doubt that...

Glad you like it.

 

you'll probably smoke more than that!

 

lol! i like that he-man. aggressively ugly. to actively pursue pure ugliness.

 

money where your mouth is. talk is cheap and i have bills to pay

 

Stock for stock based upon your details of your car you would.

 

yeah, you AND him

 

There are quite a few 2.2l turbo Dodges out there putting down crazy hp / torque numbers and crazy 1/4 mile times to go along with them. As with anything, if you're inclined to put the time and money into it, you can go as fast as you want. Go check out the Turbo Caravans and single digit K-cars. Not my thing, but one of the earlier guys used to run some lower-budget modifications on his van http://www.gusmahon.org/index_main.htm

I have had quite a few cars, and I have enjoyed my Camaro and Firebird just as much as any of them. I also enjoy jumping into my stock 92 Daytona and giving people hell they cannot ignore, which I cannot do in my almost stock 92 Camaro. I also get to do that while still getting over 30mpg on the highway, which my Camaro also cannot touch.

It is all fun though. Most people don't know much about the R/Ts, because their production numbers were very low, and it can get frustrating to have the Dodge dealerships tell you to call the Chevy dealership for parts (IROC must be a Camaro, right?), but I have a great story to go with my R/T and car you just won't see on the street very often, if ever.

 

BWHAHAHAHA!

I have a good one for you saved up. you wont be hungry after.

 

sure i will be, she eats V8's as a snack

 

i could see that. they are delicious!

 

hey, that does look like a chevy!!!!! they all get turned into scrap/soup cans sooner or later

 

The details on my car are open to interpretation and I don't scream to people if I am fast or not. I guess that is what your car is suppose to convey as well?

There are so many considerations to think about as well, the ultimate one being are you talking about my Firebird, or my Broncos?

 

hey i dont either. you guys started calling them ugly. all my point was my "ugly" car can smoke a v8 stock for stock and better MPG


considering most 80's cars all look the same?

 

true. it's inevitable that something gets recycled when it out lives its purpose. gm's get turned into pop cans and dodges get turned into barbie dolls.

 

you cant smoke a TTA stock for stock.