Lost to a neon......twice.
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Lost to a neon......twice.
Ok I have the car in my sig. A buddy of Mine has a 96 ACR neon, with pretty much built engine. I know he has 10.5:1 pistons, titanium rods, CAI, a new intake manifold, full exhaust, chip and so on. It is a 5 spd, and weighs about 2200 lbs.
Well about a week ago, we have nothing to do, so we go cruising in our cars. We stop on a long, straight, deserted back road, and decide to see what the cars have.
On his call, we both took off. I Hooked perfectly, and he spun. So i took him by about a half car or so out of the hole, and through 2nd gear, where he spun again. by the time we hit about 50, he took off like a bat out of hell on me. I shut down when he had about 3-4 cars on me.
He decided that kill wasnt enough, so he requested a 15mph roll. I agree since its a friendly race.
He decided to give me the jump. When i hit it, i was in first, and so was he. He hooked perfectly and put numerous car lengths on me when i shut down at about 50 or so.
We took his car to the track a few weeks ago where he clocked off a 14.7, with no traction. Even hitting second in his car at the track was horrible, he would hit the rev limiter.
anyway, it was a fun race, and I am glad nobody saw me get spanked by a stock looking 1st gen neon. lol
Well about a week ago, we have nothing to do, so we go cruising in our cars. We stop on a long, straight, deserted back road, and decide to see what the cars have.
On his call, we both took off. I Hooked perfectly, and he spun. So i took him by about a half car or so out of the hole, and through 2nd gear, where he spun again. by the time we hit about 50, he took off like a bat out of hell on me. I shut down when he had about 3-4 cars on me.
He decided that kill wasnt enough, so he requested a 15mph roll. I agree since its a friendly race.
He decided to give me the jump. When i hit it, i was in first, and so was he. He hooked perfectly and put numerous car lengths on me when i shut down at about 50 or so.
We took his car to the track a few weeks ago where he clocked off a 14.7, with no traction. Even hitting second in his car at the track was horrible, he would hit the rev limiter.
anyway, it was a fun race, and I am glad nobody saw me get spanked by a stock looking 1st gen neon. lol
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I used to think those were goofy little cars, but I've seen enough to know that some of those have potential.
I'd be weary of any Neon that wanted to race, there are a couple good engine swaps for those and turbos are easy to put together too.
The guys with the fastest Neons usually keep them as stock looking as possible, while the fakers sport aluminum wings and body kits.
Better luck next time!
I'd be weary of any Neon that wanted to race, there are a couple good engine swaps for those and turbos are easy to put together too.
The guys with the fastest Neons usually keep them as stock looking as possible, while the fakers sport aluminum wings and body kits.
Better luck next time!
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Re: Lost to a neon......twice.
Originally posted by Jgolden314
Ok I have the car in my sig. A buddy of Mine has a 96 ACR neon, with pretty much built engine. I know he has 10.5:1 pistons, titanium rods, CAI, a new intake manifold, full exhaust, chip and so on. It is a 5 spd, and weighs about 2200 lbs.
Well about a week ago, we have nothing to do, so we go cruising in our cars. We stop on a long, straight, deserted back road, and decide to see what the cars have.
On his call, we both took off. I Hooked perfectly, and he spun. So i took him by about a half car or so out of the hole, and through 2nd gear, where he spun again. by the time we hit about 50, he took off like a bat out of hell on me. I shut down when he had about 3-4 cars on me.
He decided that kill wasnt enough, so he requested a 15mph roll. I agree since its a friendly race.
He decided to give me the jump. When i hit it, i was in first, and so was he. He hooked perfectly and put numerous car lengths on me when i shut down at about 50 or so.
We took his car to the track a few weeks ago where he clocked off a 14.7, with no traction. Even hitting second in his car at the track was horrible, he would hit the rev limiter.
anyway, it was a fun race, and I am glad nobody saw me get spanked by a stock looking 1st gen neon. lol
Ok I have the car in my sig. A buddy of Mine has a 96 ACR neon, with pretty much built engine. I know he has 10.5:1 pistons, titanium rods, CAI, a new intake manifold, full exhaust, chip and so on. It is a 5 spd, and weighs about 2200 lbs.
Well about a week ago, we have nothing to do, so we go cruising in our cars. We stop on a long, straight, deserted back road, and decide to see what the cars have.
On his call, we both took off. I Hooked perfectly, and he spun. So i took him by about a half car or so out of the hole, and through 2nd gear, where he spun again. by the time we hit about 50, he took off like a bat out of hell on me. I shut down when he had about 3-4 cars on me.
He decided that kill wasnt enough, so he requested a 15mph roll. I agree since its a friendly race.
He decided to give me the jump. When i hit it, i was in first, and so was he. He hooked perfectly and put numerous car lengths on me when i shut down at about 50 or so.
We took his car to the track a few weeks ago where he clocked off a 14.7, with no traction. Even hitting second in his car at the track was horrible, he would hit the rev limiter.
anyway, it was a fun race, and I am glad nobody saw me get spanked by a stock looking 1st gen neon. lol
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Titanium rods?? Where the hell do you buy those, and how much are they?
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ya know, im not sure, but that is what he told me, and he knows his stuff, cuz he built it himself. He went to wyotech, so he knows what he is doing.
but anyway, i ran that 16.5 with the timing advanced, and yes it is an LG4, with high mileage. its a turd.
but anyway, i ran that 16.5 with the timing advanced, and yes it is an LG4, with high mileage. its a turd.
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what gets me are the import tuners that make there car look like ****. then they have the stuff to back it up so its not really ****. 
if that makes any sense

if that makes any sense
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Any import that runs times like those or even shaves a full second off of his stock times N/A has my respect. To many people just slap turbos or nitrous on there cars and thats that. It really takes a skilled person to go all motor on a 4 banger.
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what's even better is a good N/A four banger with a turbo and a shot of NOS...lot's of fun!
I'm pretty sure Dodge doesn't make American cars these days, but what difference does that make?
I'm pretty sure Dodge doesn't make American cars these days, but what difference does that make?
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My friends' 98 neon with some mods like CAI, exhaust, think some pulleys, headers and ground effects/rims/suspension ran mid/high 14's with a completely gutted interior. Very light and pretty quick.
He then slapped on a turbo and within weeks he blew it up cuz the motor bottom end was all stock and high mileage. Oh well, I knew it was coming.
He then slapped on a turbo and within weeks he blew it up cuz the motor bottom end was all stock and high mileage. Oh well, I knew it was coming.
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I am one of those people that fears certain 4 cylinders. At least with my nearly stock IROC.
There are a lot of low 14, high 13 4 cylinders in town. Until I have a car that I know can smoke them, I guess that thought will still be in place.
There are a lot of low 14, high 13 4 cylinders in town. Until I have a car that I know can smoke them, I guess that thought will still be in place.
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Originally posted by 25thmustang
No offense but he didnt need the built motor if you went 16.5. Still you admitted defeat which is cool!
No offense but he didnt need the built motor if you went 16.5. Still you admitted defeat which is cool!
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I raced on of the newer ones (2000+) from a 30 mph roll, he got the jump (I didn't know he wanted to race), I kept it even with him about half a car ahead (nobody pulled). Then we wen't from a slight roll (maybe 5-10mph?) and I got him by about 2 cars, I gotta say, those cars aren't too shabby, but then I only have a V6.
Originally posted by thegeneral
Titanium rods?? Where the hell do you buy those, and how much are they?
Titanium rods?? Where the hell do you buy those, and how much are they?
If they really were titanium, they're worth twice the book value of the car they went into...
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Originally posted by FLYNLOW92rs
Titanium rods are approx $800 EACH
Titanium rods are approx $800 EACH
WAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHA....
*catches breath*
WAHAHAAHAHAAHAAHAHAHAHA
No seriously. Who needs that crap for $800 a piece? Just get some hardened push rods. Not directing it at you flynlow.
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Jgolden314,
a lot of us are in the same boat w/ ya!
the only things we can pick on are lawn mowers and golf-carts...
brandon
a lot of us are in the same boat w/ ya!
the only things we can pick on are lawn mowers and golf-carts...
brandon
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Originally posted by sqzbox
Who said it was american? Guess who makes the engine for Neon's? Start's with an "M"!
Who said it was american? Guess who makes the engine for Neon's? Start's with an "M"!
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an "M"?
My guess is mexico, you can still consider them american...geographically speaking
other than that I'm stumped
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My guess is mexico, you can still consider them american...geographically speaking
other than that I'm stumped
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Originally posted by Tobias05
an "M"?
My guess is mexico, you can still consider them american...geographically speaking
other than that I'm stumped
brandon
an "M"?
My guess is mexico, you can still consider them american...geographically speaking
other than that I'm stumped
brandon
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Originally posted by pasky
I think he is referring to Mitsubishi. Probably uses thier engine or chassis.
I think he is referring to Mitsubishi. Probably uses thier engine or chassis.
i was thinking too hard
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Originally posted by Tobias05
Jgolden314,
a lot of us are in the same boat w/ ya!
the only things we can pick on are lawn mowers and golf-carts...
brandon
Jgolden314,
a lot of us are in the same boat w/ ya!
the only things we can pick on are lawn mowers and golf-carts...
brandon
It sucks. My car is has an LG4. It runs high 16s/low 17s. Its zero to 60 time is 9.19. The only race I've one is against a cavalier, well, and my firends 300ZX. I've lost to a probe, an sti, and more I could imagine.
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0-to-60 is a 9.19 stock? I knew these engines weren't that great in their stock form, but jeeze... that sounds just horrible.
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That's with 3.73 gears and an open element. The rear tires are 215s though. I think the first gear of a 200C is 2.74.
This time was with my stop watch and an 80 thousand mile car.
This time was with my stop watch and an 80 thousand mile car.
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Originally posted by TransAm12sec
It sucks. My car is has an LG4. It runs high 16s/low 17s. Its zero to 60 time is 9.19. The only race I've one is against a cavalier, well, and my firends 300ZX. I've lost to a probe, an sti, and more I could imagine.
It sucks. My car is has an LG4. It runs high 16s/low 17s. Its zero to 60 time is 9.19. The only race I've one is against a cavalier, well, and my firends 300ZX. I've lost to a probe, an sti, and more I could imagine.
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