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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 06:30 PM
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Lost to a neon......twice.

Ok I have the car in my sig. A buddy of Mine has a 96 ACR neon, with pretty much built engine. I know he has 10.5:1 pistons, titanium rods, CAI, a new intake manifold, full exhaust, chip and so on. It is a 5 spd, and weighs about 2200 lbs.

Well about a week ago, we have nothing to do, so we go cruising in our cars. We stop on a long, straight, deserted back road, and decide to see what the cars have.

On his call, we both took off. I Hooked perfectly, and he spun. So i took him by about a half car or so out of the hole, and through 2nd gear, where he spun again. by the time we hit about 50, he took off like a bat out of hell on me. I shut down when he had about 3-4 cars on me.

He decided that kill wasnt enough, so he requested a 15mph roll. I agree since its a friendly race.
He decided to give me the jump. When i hit it, i was in first, and so was he. He hooked perfectly and put numerous car lengths on me when i shut down at about 50 or so.

We took his car to the track a few weeks ago where he clocked off a 14.7, with no traction. Even hitting second in his car at the track was horrible, he would hit the rev limiter.

anyway, it was a fun race, and I am glad nobody saw me get spanked by a stock looking 1st gen neon. lol
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 06:55 PM
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I used to think those were goofy little cars, but I've seen enough to know that some of those have potential.

I'd be weary of any Neon that wanted to race, there are a couple good engine swaps for those and turbos are easy to put together too.

The guys with the fastest Neons usually keep them as stock looking as possible, while the fakers sport aluminum wings and body kits.

Better luck next time!
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 07:02 PM
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Re: Lost to a neon......twice.

Originally posted by Jgolden314
Ok I have the car in my sig. A buddy of Mine has a 96 ACR neon, with pretty much built engine. I know he has 10.5:1 pistons, titanium rods, CAI, a new intake manifold, full exhaust, chip and so on. It is a 5 spd, and weighs about 2200 lbs.

Well about a week ago, we have nothing to do, so we go cruising in our cars. We stop on a long, straight, deserted back road, and decide to see what the cars have.

On his call, we both took off. I Hooked perfectly, and he spun. So i took him by about a half car or so out of the hole, and through 2nd gear, where he spun again. by the time we hit about 50, he took off like a bat out of hell on me. I shut down when he had about 3-4 cars on me.

He decided that kill wasnt enough, so he requested a 15mph roll. I agree since its a friendly race.
He decided to give me the jump. When i hit it, i was in first, and so was he. He hooked perfectly and put numerous car lengths on me when i shut down at about 50 or so.

We took his car to the track a few weeks ago where he clocked off a 14.7, with no traction. Even hitting second in his car at the track was horrible, he would hit the rev limiter.

anyway, it was a fun race, and I am glad nobody saw me get spanked by a stock looking 1st gen neon. lol
Well.....at least it was American .
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 07:03 PM
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oh yeah i forgot to mention that i knew I was going to lose.

ah well, this neon seriously makes for a good sleeper.
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 07:05 PM
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1986 Iroc Z28
Best 1/4- 16.5@84
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Is that accurate??
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 07:09 PM
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yes that is accurate, I ran that last year stock with timing advanced 6 degrees
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 08:11 PM
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Have you run it since you adjusted the timing? I would guess you should run at least in the high 15's if the engine isn't too worn.
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 08:20 PM
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Check his sig. His IROC has an LG4.
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 08:32 PM
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Titanium rods?? Where the hell do you buy those, and how much are they?
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 08:54 PM
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ya know, im not sure, but that is what he told me, and he knows his stuff, cuz he built it himself. He went to wyotech, so he knows what he is doing.

but anyway, i ran that 16.5 with the timing advanced, and yes it is an LG4, with high mileage. its a turd.
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 09:16 PM
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what gets me are the import tuners that make there car look like ****. then they have the stuff to back it up so its not really ****.
if that makes any sense
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 10:56 PM
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Any import that runs times like those or even shaves a full second off of his stock times N/A has my respect. To many people just slap turbos or nitrous on there cars and thats that. It really takes a skilled person to go all motor on a 4 banger.
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 11:24 PM
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what's even better is a good N/A four banger with a turbo and a shot of NOS...lot's of fun!

I'm pretty sure Dodge doesn't make American cars these days, but what difference does that make?
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 11:35 PM
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No offense but he didnt need the built motor if you went 16.5. Still you admitted defeat which is cool!
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 12:12 AM
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My friends' 98 neon with some mods like CAI, exhaust, think some pulleys, headers and ground effects/rims/suspension ran mid/high 14's with a completely gutted interior. Very light and pretty quick.

He then slapped on a turbo and within weeks he blew it up cuz the motor bottom end was all stock and high mileage. Oh well, I knew it was coming.
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 02:55 AM
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Car: Red 87 IROC-Z28 T-Top
Engine: 5.7 Tuned Port Injection
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And now, it is time for an engine swap.
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 09:07 AM
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I am one of those people that fears certain 4 cylinders. At least with my nearly stock IROC.

There are a lot of low 14, high 13 4 cylinders in town. Until I have a car that I know can smoke them, I guess that thought will still be in place.

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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 10:20 AM
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Originally posted by 25thmustang
No offense but he didnt need the built motor if you went 16.5. Still you admitted defeat which is cool!
Yeah in stock form he would have beat me also.......alot of cars can beat me, lol....hell my jeep was faster than my iroc before i put a lift on it.
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Old Jun 28, 2004 | 07:16 PM
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i've seen some pretty quick neons. and watch out for the srt's...13's in stock form. pretty nasty.
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 01:22 AM
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I raced on of the newer ones (2000+) from a 30 mph roll, he got the jump (I didn't know he wanted to race), I kept it even with him about half a car ahead (nobody pulled). Then we wen't from a slight roll (maybe 5-10mph?) and I got him by about 2 cars, I gotta say, those cars aren't too shabby, but then I only have a V6.
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 12:06 AM
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I saw a SRT-4 run a 11.1@134 this weekend........
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 03:26 AM
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niiice. bad *** lil 4 bangers..
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 12:00 PM
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Titanium rods?? Where the hell do you buy those, and how much are they?
How much?

If they really were titanium, they're worth twice the book value of the car they went into...
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 12:39 PM
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Titanium rods are approx $800 EACH
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 12:48 PM
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Originally posted by FLYNLOW92rs
Titanium rods are approx $800 EACH

WAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHA....

*catches breath*


WAHAHAAHAHAAHAAHAHAHAHA

No seriously. Who needs that crap for $800 a piece? Just get some hardened push rods. Not directing it at you flynlow.
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 12:51 PM
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Who said it was american? Guess who makes the engine for Neon's? Start's with an "M"!
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 01:29 PM
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Jgolden314,

a lot of us are in the same boat w/ ya!

the only things we can pick on are lawn mowers and golf-carts...

brandon
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 02:28 PM
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Originally posted by sqzbox
Who said it was american? Guess who makes the engine for Neon's? Start's with an "M"!
Had no clue, I thought they were dodge neon's. Hell if I know. Im a GM guy.
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 03:59 PM
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an "M"?

My guess is mexico, you can still consider them american...geographically speaking

other than that I'm stumped

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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 05:26 PM
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Originally posted by Tobias05
an "M"?

My guess is mexico, you can still consider them american...geographically speaking

other than that I'm stumped

brandon
I think he is referring to Mitsubishi. Probably uses thier engine or chassis.
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 06:49 PM
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Shares the same motor as an Eclipse. Both hte DOHC and SOHC motors are made by Shisubishi.
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 09:01 PM
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Originally posted by pasky
I think he is referring to Mitsubishi. Probably uses thier engine or chassis.
haha... my bad

i was thinking too hard
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Old Jul 7, 2004 | 10:50 PM
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Originally posted by Tobias05
Jgolden314,

a lot of us are in the same boat w/ ya!

the only things we can pick on are lawn mowers and golf-carts...

brandon

It sucks. My car is has an LG4. It runs high 16s/low 17s. Its zero to 60 time is 9.19. The only race I've one is against a cavalier, well, and my firends 300ZX. I've lost to a probe, an sti, and more I could imagine.

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Old Jul 7, 2004 | 10:56 PM
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0-to-60 is a 9.19 stock? I knew these engines weren't that great in their stock form, but jeeze... that sounds just horrible.
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Old Jul 7, 2004 | 11:14 PM
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That's with 3.73 gears and an open element. The rear tires are 215s though. I think the first gear of a 200C is 2.74.

This time was with my stop watch and an 80 thousand mile car.
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 01:36 AM
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Originally posted by TransAm12sec
It sucks. My car is has an LG4. It runs high 16s/low 17s. Its zero to 60 time is 9.19. The only race I've one is against a cavalier, well, and my firends 300ZX. I've lost to a probe, an sti, and more I could imagine.
OUCH!!! The LB8 (2.8 MPFI V6)runs just a hair slower than that (mid 17's usually).
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 06:13 PM
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Seriously man, I hope that was enough to make you consider doing an engine swap. I know it was all in fun, but that's just a reminder as to what can happen to you with that motor.
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Old Jul 9, 2004 | 01:05 AM
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you do know mitsu is owned by dodge though right.... lol...
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