My camaro is 305ci LG4 ,1985 year all stock,what are my chances in racing vs
RSX Type-S
Integra Type-R
Nissan 240SX
Eclipse GS
Celica (older model)
They all stock except for the mufflers...

 

RSX Type-S will waste you.
Integra Type-R will also waste you.
Nissan 240SX, it will be close. These things aren't fast unless they get the SR20DE/DET swap.
Eclipse GS, it will be close (assuming its the 1st or 2nd gen)
Celica...depends on model. There was an All-Trac AWD Turbo model that was pretty quick, but the regular ones were slow.

 

so basically hes saying your screwed get ready to get reamed up the a s s
jon

 

Any Eclipse that is not a turbo is a pretty worthless car. I'm not too sure about the 240 though.

 

Iam not racing..but i might end up most likely vs RSX , damn,so i dont have any chances??

 

no chance in hell of beating the RSX they are like flat 15 second cars to your mid to low 16 sec even if he launches bad you still will get roasted

 

The only one of those cars listed that is slower than 16's is the Eclipse GS. The 240SX runs mid-low 16s I believe.

Your best bet is to line up next to that GS or that Celica (chances are it is NOT the AWD turbo model, those were/are rare)

 

newer GTS celica has 180 hp and nice 6speed. ON par with the type R integra and RSX type S. Your roasted by either of these cars. LOL sorry.

 

No it isn't.

 

Its close aint it? i read a carndriver test once and the type r tegra is just bit faster. LOL

 

What if i had 350 block,cuz iam planing on engine swap as soon as i get money

 

350 as in L98 or greater, you should have no problem. most L98s are at least 14.5 second cars. some abit slower but with few mods, easily low 14's. From a roll, the RSX-type S could be a bit of a challenge, same with GSR type R teg's. But you should come out on top.

 

as long as u get one with at least 200hp and 300ft.lbs u will be fine.

 

Hmm so my 305? A 200HP and 300FTLB motor will put a thirdgen around 15.3ish at 90ish

 

Believe it or not it acutally can. Not the norm, but there are a few bone stock T5 305 TBI guys running 15.3's.

 

A good driver behind the wheel of a Type S RSX will run 15 flat all day long, possibly some 14.9's.

 

the 1985 305 tpi irocs run 15.2s

like this one that i wa going to get but could not get the funds in time.

 

the following mods (which are good in general even for 350's) should get you good enough to hang with most of what you listed.

FULL Exhaust

Headers --> Y-pipe --> 3"cat --> 3" cat back

LCA's and panhard.

Open element air filter or Home made dual snorkle air filter (ala L69)

gears and posi

and if some cash left over, get a cheap K-Kit from comp cams, something with 210 or more duration on both int and exh.

That should easily get you over 200hp.

just remember the L69 was a tweaked carb but still a Q-jet, slightly bigger cam and a better exhaust .... that's it. and it was 190hp and 240 torque and good for low 15's

everything else is the same in the 85 LG4. heads intake so on.

 

If u can find a rough tpi and build it w/ #24injectors, 19's will do it but yeah. Dual cat up and change the cam u should be able to take a good portion of the those cars, keep in mind this is coming from a guy w/ an 89' TPI 305. Best idea is to find a wrecked iroc w/ a 350.

If u wanna build it Holley Stealth Ram, 58mm Tb or stock LT1. Port ur heads and give it headers

 

A moderator should know better than to spew out that kind of BS...

Jacka1L, assuming those cars have decent drivers:

RSX S - You lose.
Integra Type R - You lose.
240SX - Very close, or just ahead of you.
Eclipse GS - Is this guy serious? You, definately!
older Celica - see Eclipse GS...

Add in an automatic transmission (where available) to those listed above and they get MUCH slower. Also, the driver capabilities are much more important with the Honda powered cars. You really have to push them to perform. A bad driver could turn that RSX or Type R into a slug.

 

 

Honest, no BS. Dewey316, pablo, 90RS305, dennis and a few others would be glad to show you their slips.

 

TPI 305 in the 89 G92 cars ran high 14's stock. Seen old test magazines with those numbers. L98 was only few tenths faster.

g92 cars with T5 and 3.45 gears had L98 cam and pushed 230hp and 300lbft torque. L98 of 89 without dual cats (like mine) is pushing same hp and only 30 lbft more.

i would get a L98 with 1.6rockers, or 210/220 compucam, or zz4 cam and TPI setup and ECM of same year and you should be in the high 14's. Cheap mods and gain good power. With t5 and 3.73 gears and some good tires, 14's are easy if your decent stick driver. LOL

 

1985 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z28 0-60 7.0secs 1\4mile 15.2

these are stock times

 

Those cars i listed all automatic proably (RSX is for sure i know that)
There is a guy with ford escort (manual) who beat this RSX..

 

BWAHAHAHAHA! That's great! "Dude, you just lost to an ESCORT!" Hmmm, makes you wonder what sort of mods the Escort had... Secret Small-block Ford engine swap (and very extensive body modifications)?

 

Escort was stock..(with muffler only)

 

The TYPE S RSX only has 6 speed manual. no autos so its a regular RSX 160hp and minimal torque. probly a high 16 second car at best.


I believe the Type R teg is also only a manual car.

 

Hmm i didnt check this one...well,the guy said its like half auto and half manual (i dont know wtf he ment by that) and when i asked if it was manual he said " i wish",and then he said its Type-S which is if they only were manual

 

Ooops, I totally didn't catch that. Both the Type-S and the Type-R are strictly manual.

 

build ur motor, preferably fuel injected TPI, or Stealth Ram, if want to make life easier get a 350, if just want a fast car with out the cash, drop a grand in the 305 if that. Rape a junk yard, u should get everything fairly cheap. If u run stock carbueration that escort will put u in ur place.

You will pretty much need to change ur cam, ur injection and i do agree beef up the rocker arms, and valve springs. i believe stock springs are only 110lbs. maybe 150. Run some headers and u can have a really nice "stock car killer". Dont race anyone heavily modded, 4 bangers will still give u problems if they are modded. But u can take most 80's mustangs.

 

A STOCK Escort...? What year and options? Not one of those Mustang-wannabe ones, is it?

 

I've seen many run, both stock and modded, and 15.3 IMO is impossible. Most intake/exhaust/LT1 cam/gears TBIs barely run high 14s as it is.

Regardless, I'll look into it - with exception of Pablo. Wasn't he the one who built a 310ci several years ago only to run mid 15s or so?

If that RSX is an auto, like stated above its the 160HP version, and is significantly slower. Run him!

 

Turned out to be its usual RSX with 160hp and auto tranny,no wonder he got beaten by escort,plus this guy with his RSX is *****,sadly,with bunch of stickers and muffler,thats it
Yesterday i was coming from my friend house and ive seen him passing me by while i was at stop sign,and ive seen him stoped at lights,so i about to race him (i know he would,no questions asked) but i didnt get to lights fast enouf,so he took off and i just went home

 

i was saying that 1985 305 TPIS can run 15.2s all day long n305 tbis i would not think so

 

Pablo has run as low as 13.5 with his 305 TBI. The guys who have the fast times are the guys who know their chip work well. A cammed LO3 should be a 14 second car. Most people won't do the chip work and will run only a tick or two faster than stock. JPrevost ran a 12.9 with his TBI and a GM 330 crate. Dewey ran a 14.5 with nothing more than 3.42's, cat-back, open element and chip work. Like I said though, for every one of them, there are 15 million other cars that did not do any chip work and never get past 15 flat. Chip work is the achilis heal for these cars. They make or break them.

It is actually an exciting time right now because TBI guys are seeing the light on chip work. Many frustrated people with heads and cam swaps have now been convinced and their ET's drop with every new chip burn. TBI guys like Pablo, Dimented, JPrevost (especially him), Dewey and a few others have really shown the light on these cars and what can be done with them when chip work is added to their parts lists.

 

Ok I live in the same place where Jacka1L is know who he is talking about. This guy claims he raced an Integra Type-R and won 3 times. With his poor Driving skills and his Sound system that makes up "Half of the weight of his car" This guy might just one of those "All Show no Go..." ricers. In my opinion Jacka1L here has an advantage.

 

Who knows,who knows,iam not Schumaher myself

 

rsx---since its not a type s, and its an auto your looking at a pretty fairly even race(power to weight is still in his favor i believe but the crappy powerband & big torque advantage helps you out)

the tegra type r would burry you though

240 sx is about a draw

eclipse gs???? those are dogs.....my 3100 Prix beat one once.....

Celica before the 180 hp gt-s and non-awd turbo is also a dog.

 

This with RSX went on track yesterday and he told me he ran 17.3 seconds.... and he was sain he gonna do like 15 sec
and other guy with Type R is in jail for racing,he got into accedent,sad..but he didnt know how to drive safely,cutting people off on highways ...thats what he get

 

I think that when he said it was half stick half auto he meant that manu-matic version. My friend has one (regular RSX) and its decently fast. I totally destroyed a turbo gen I DSM eclipse when I was in high school. That was with the mods in my sig and the race was stoplight to about 70 mph. I had him by at least 2 cars. So if your car is in tune you should have no problem with the Eclipse or the older Celicas. The 240SX, if its stock, will be close, and the Type R will kill you. The RSX should hand it to you too, especially if its a type S, although if the guy you're gonna race lost to an Escort then I say you have a good chance.

~Matt

 

My girl has a 93 celica st. 1.6l of pure horsepower.
It is a D O G. All honda/acura autos are slow. My buddy beat one with a Saturn that was also auto......D O G!!!!

 

GET A BIG BLOCK! :lala: