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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 03:29 AM
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Focus SVT vs. 86 Z28

Focus won. Z28 was 305 and auto. Focus has only CAI. It's my boys focus. Camaro is an 86, carb'd 305 w/th350. He had him by a good buslength.

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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 05:27 AM
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You should have won they only have 170hp at the crank. even though you should have similar but you should have been able to launch better than him and then have him playing catch up. Sorry about your loss.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 09:54 AM
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You should have won they only have 170hp at the crank. even though you should have similar but you should have been able to launch better than him and then have him playing catch up. Sorry about your loss.
they are both friends cars. i wasn't driving. and how exactly do you think the 305 auto should launch better than the SVT 6-speed?
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they are both friends cars. i wasn't driving. and how exactly do you think the 305 auto should launch better than the SVT 6-speed?

I was always under the impression auto > manuals for launching.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 11:41 AM
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I was always under the impression auto > manuals for launching.
Are you serious? Maybe with a drag car with a stall converter or something. Autos blow until you beef them up.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 11:50 AM
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Originally posted by stu
Are you serious? Maybe with a drag car with a stall converter or something. Autos blow until you beef them up.
Eh, Autos are decent, I like manuals better for launching w/ slicks, all has to do with how well you can hook
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 11:51 AM
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It is a FOCUS, man what the hell race a real car I can beat a focus in reverse blindfolded
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 12:26 PM
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SVT focus has as much horsepower stock as most thirdgens came with. Couple that with a 6 speed and a car that weighs less, well, I think even you can do the math on that one.

170hp@7000, 145 lb@5500
10.21:1 comp. curb weight of 2,593 lbs. (3-door), 2,675 (5-door)
I think it will take most pre-TPI thirdgens pretty easily, and smoke all lo3's without an issue, as long as there is a competent driver on board.

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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 12:45 PM
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i remember car n driver doing a test with the SVT. not very quick especially not what it should be for a SVT car.

0-60 in 7.8 sec

1/4 mile at 15.9 at 89 mph. granted their probly is abit of room for improvement. but everyone says magazines cant drive cars. well some cant but all car n driver guys do is test cars. for years. you figure they would start to get good at it sometime. LOL

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Originally posted by ljnowell
SVT focus has as much horsepower stock as most thirdgens came with. Couple that with a 6 speed and a car that weighs less, well, I think even you can do the math on that one.

170hp@7000, 145 lb@5500
10.21:1 comp. curb weight of 2,593 lbs. (3-door), 2,675 (5-door)
I think it will take most pre-TPI thirdgens pretty easily, and smoke all lo3's without an issue, as long as there is a competent driver on board.

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I dont care what you say, they are S L O W, no matter what numbers you put out there I can take one with my grandmothers buick.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 03:17 PM
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Originally posted by /\/3\/\/l8l3
I dont care what you say, they are S L O W, no matter what numbers you put out there I can take one with my grandmothers buick.
No matter what the fact say, you have to be right!
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by ljnowell
No matter what the fact say, you have to be right!
yah look at the post right after mine, 1/4 mile at 15.9 at 89 mph. Thats one hell of a 1/4 mile time there isn't it genius. Go home and clean you K&N for the l33t horsepower, and take out your windshielf wiper fluid for that extra .10

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Originally posted by /\/3\/\/l8l3
yah look at the post right after mine, 1/4 mile at 15.9 at 89 mph. Thats one hell of a 1/4 mile time there isn't it genius. Go home and clean you K&N for the l33t horsepower, and take out your windshielf wiper fluid for that extra .10
I agree with pasky, you must really be stupid. That time above was fronm the same magazine that called an LS1 camaro a 14.3 second car. Yeah, right. I dont have K&N's. I own a camaro. I dont have any imports and dont speak your silly little language (however for some reason you seem to).

Besided if you know so much why do you ask stupid questions in all of the forums?
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 04:10 PM
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thats why i said 15.9 with probably room for improvement. you never know.

most 305 auto cars are 15 seconds or so, and especially older TPI or non TPI cars. non TPI cars usually low low 16's or so. deffinately a close race.
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Me and fuel injection are teaching eachother the basics. Before this car the most work I did w/ anything having to do was fuel injection was changing the oil in my moms buick . But I see that it is workable now, and it is possible to tune it for high 10's and still mantain decent fuel economy. I am not saying I know everything, but I sure think you guys that have your 3inch exhaust and K&n filters and try and race need to get a real job and get a real car. I'm tired of not seeing anything other than a ninja that can mess with me and i'm tired of all the posers out there. Street racing has gotten so much WORSE over the last few years it isn't even really enjoyable for me anymore, for the most part it is rich kids that can't drive or old guys that won't bite.

A ford focus is an absolute waste of time to even post about beating, I wouldn't even bother hitting the gas if he was revving up to me. Even if it is a 15 second car what makes it worthwhile? Hell I wouldn't waste time if it was a 14 second car from the show room.

Anyway I'm pissed off and rambling without proof reading so--
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by Orr89RocZ
thats why i said 15.9 with probably room for improvement. you never know.

most 305 auto cars are 15 seconds or so, and especially older TPI or non TPI cars. non TPI cars usually low low 16's or so. deffinately a close race.
Why would you even want to race them is my whole point, what a waste of gas
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 04:24 PM
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well for your "11 second " car it would be a waste to race a stock Z06.LOL not everyone has the luxary of owning a fast car. mine will be but i dont have the funds right now. it does 13.9's and with 3.27's i hope for 13.8's or so. that aint bad. i am in college and my car is at home. i dont have a steady job right now LOL i am sure others are like that too, that dont have time or money to fund a project car LOL


i agree i think it is a waste to race them. for me, just a mash of the throttle and i should be pulling on them quickly. then let off cuz pointless to keep going. they do the flyby and its on to bigger and better things.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 04:36 PM
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I totally understand the money situation, I have been there. I am just trying to say if you don't have it, then why try to act the part?

Like a pornstar with a 2" pecker
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Originally posted by /\/3\/\/l8l3
Me and fuel injection are teaching eachother the basics. Before this car the most work I did w/ anything having to do was fuel injection was changing the oil in my moms buick . But I see that it is workable now, and it is possible to tune it for high 10's and still mantain decent fuel economy. I am not saying I know everything, but I sure think you guys that have your 3inch exhaust and K&n filters and try and race need to get a real job and get a real car. I'm tired of not seeing anything other than a ninja that can mess with me and i'm tired of all the posers out there. Street racing has gotten so much WORSE over the last few years it isn't even really enjoyable for me anymore, for the most part it is rich kids that can't drive or old guys that won't bite.

A ford focus is an absolute waste of time to even post about beating, I wouldn't even bother hitting the gas if he was revving up to me. Even if it is a 15 second car what makes it worthwhile? Hell I wouldn't waste time if it was a 14 second car from the show room.

Anyway I'm pissed off and rambling without proof reading so--
I wouldnt bother racing one, because they are below my class. Anyone with 3 inch exhaust and filters needs to rethink thier "mod" list. What I like reading are sigs on here that list MSD plug wires and aluminum water pumps and crap like that. A lot of people here have a lot to learn about this stuff, but acting like a jerk to them doesnt teach them anything. And being arrogant doesnt get anyone anywhere.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 05:06 PM
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Originally posted by Orr89RocZ
thats why i said 15.9 with probably room for improvement. you never know.

most 305 auto cars are 15 seconds or so, and especially older TPI or non TPI cars. non TPI cars usually low low 16's or so. deffinately a close race.
A lot of guys are running high 14's with a CAI and some exhaust mods. A lot of people are spraying a few seconds faster, on the stock bottom end. Not a badly assembled engine. Plus there are a lot of engine mods that are readily available. Is it a sports car? Not in my opinion. Can it be made fast? Yep, sure can.
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Originally posted by ljnowell
.....but acting like a jerk to them doesnt teach them anything. And being arrogant doesnt get anyone anywhere.
Maybe they will leave racing to the big boys?
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Originally posted by /\/3\/\/l8l3
Maybe they will leave racing to the big boys?
Not likely. Thanks to the ever evolving culture of "street racing" we are stuck with all of these little bleach blonde punk kids in their type-r crap cars trying to race anything with dual exhaust. Thats just the way its going to be.
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I wouldnt bother racing one, because they are below my class. Anyone with 3 inch exhaust and filters needs to rethink thier "mod" list. What I like reading are sigs on here that list MSD plug wires and aluminum water pumps and crap like that. A lot of people here have a lot to learn about this stuff, but acting like a jerk to them doesnt teach them anything. And being arrogant doesnt get anyone anywhere.
so i should take out my "mods" in my sig? i mean without them thats a stock L98 car and its not really stock. those 'mods' total over 2500 bucks and that isnt easy to make with my job LOL
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Originally posted by ljnowell
I wouldnt bother racing one, because they are below my class. Anyone with 3 inch exhaust and filters needs to rethink thier "mod" list. What I like reading are sigs on here that list MSD plug wires and aluminum water pumps and crap like that. A lot of people here have a lot to learn about this stuff, but acting like a jerk to them doesnt teach them anything. And being arrogant doesnt get anyone anywhere.
I love to give them the wake up call they need. Its priceless sometimes. But I agree, the crap gets old.
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Originally posted by Orr89RocZ
so i should take out my "mods" in my sig? i mean without them thats a stock L98 car and its not really stock. those 'mods' total over 2500 bucks and that isnt easy to make with my job LOL
It doesnt matter what they cost, its a matter of what they do. If you are listing things like above, then ya, it is kinda silly. New leather power seats can cost 1000 bucks, that doesnt mean they belong in the mod list, unless you are posting on the appearance board.
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It is a FOCUS, man what the hell race a real car I can beat a focus in reverse blindfolded
Thats nice but not everyone here can and we could care less that you think you can in reverse...



Originally posted by /\/3\/\/l8l3
Me and fuel injection are teaching eachother the basics. Before this car the most work I did w/ anything having to do was fuel injection was changing the oil in my moms buick . But I see that it is workable now, and it is possible to tune it for high 10's and still mantain decent fuel economy. I am not saying I know everything, but I sure think you guys that have your 3inch exhaust and K&n filters and try and race need to get a real job and get a real car. I'm tired of not seeing anything other than a ninja that can mess with me and i'm tired of all the posers out there. Street racing has gotten so much WORSE over the last few years it isn't even really enjoyable for me anymore, for the most part it is rich kids that can't drive or old guys that won't bite.

A ford focus is an absolute waste of time to even post about beating, I wouldn't even bother hitting the gas if he was revving up to me. Even if it is a 15 second car what makes it worthwhile? Hell I wouldn't waste time if it was a 14 second car from the show room.

Anyway I'm pissed off and rambling without proof reading so--
Hmm do you have a pic of this car of yours that you have ??

How about a time slip to show all of us how fast it really is ?
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well all the mods in my sig are mods that improve power, handling and et's. LOL so i guess thats cool to stay.
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well all the mods in my sig are mods that improve power, handling and et's. LOL so i guess thats cool to stay.
well yeah what lj meant was people that put in thier mods they installed new plug wires and did a tune up ....LOL....honest to goodness ive seen it on here and all i can do is laugh ....

i cant remember who it was but they listed new plugs as a mod....LOL
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well yeah what lj meant was people that put in thier mods they installed new plug wires and did a tune up ....LOL....honest to goodness ive seen it on here and all i can do is laugh ....

i cant remember who it was but they listed new plugs as a mod....LOL

there was more than one (several )
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Are you serious? Maybe with a drag car with a stall converter or something. Autos blow until you beef them up.

Yes I am serious, esp if your on street tires.
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there was more than one (several )
atleast 2 or 3 people
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Me and fuel injection are teaching eachother the basics. Before this car the most work I did w/ anything having to do was fuel injection was changing the oil in my moms buick . But I see that it is workable now, and it is possible to tune it for high 10's and still mantain decent fuel economy. I am not saying I know everything, but I sure think you guys that have your 3inch exhaust and K&n filters and try and race need to get a real job and get a real car. I'm tired of not seeing anything other than a ninja that can mess with me and i'm tired of all the posers out there. Street racing has gotten so much WORSE over the last few years it isn't even really enjoyable for me anymore, for the most part it is rich kids that can't drive or old guys that won't bite.

A ford focus is an absolute waste of time to even post about beating, I wouldn't even bother hitting the gas if he was revving up to me. Even if it is a 15 second car what makes it worthwhile? Hell I wouldn't waste time if it was a 14 second car from the show room.

Anyway I'm pissed off and rambling without proof reading so--



you are a complete tool. gtfo and diaf, please don't post in any of my threads ever again. kthnxbye..


thanks for the comments from everyone else.

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he doesn't seem to bright to me nither.. comon what a ***** really. my firend has a svt ****as and i personlly think it's slow so... but well thier always room for improvement
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 06:58 PM
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Originally posted by IROCThe5.7L
Yes I am serious, esp if your on street tires.
Well, I guess I've just never riden in an auto that could out launch a manual (**Stock). Now that I think of it, I think the only auto sports type car I've ever driven was a lightning. That thing didn't even hesistate to break the tires loose. But then again, I was just a lot tech, and I had one chance to launch it and that was it.
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Generally, a auto will launch better with a higher stall. If its got a shiftkit and a nice stall, the auto will almost always launch better. The manual will usually trap higher. These aren't rules of thumb, but the stick makes up for the launch by optimizing the powerband.
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Well, I guess I've just never riden in an auto that could out launch a manual (**Stock). Now that I think of it, I think the only auto sports type car I've ever driven was a lightning. That thing didn't even hesistate to break the tires loose. But then again, I was just a lot tech, and I had one chance to launch it and that was it.
My best 60 ft. on the factory 16X8's and 245/50/16 Cooper Cobras was a 1.98. The only car that launches better than mine on the street around here is my friends 95 Talon TSi. His best 60 ft. is a 1.7X but he runs a 12.8 @ 106. Before he swapped turbos, we both launched about the same. Gotta love AWD.
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they are both friends cars. i wasn't driving. and how exactly do you think the 305 auto should launch better than the SVT 6-speed?

my dad has an 02 SVT...they have absolutly NO ***** under 3,500 rpms...in order to lanuch them decently hard you really have to stink up the clutch..you cant dump it becasue of the traction control...you can turn it off but it still is very intrusive...any hint of wheelspin anywere (launching going around a corner) and it will put a stop to the fun....i drove my dads to a 15.3@90...factory stock..there also very easy to powershift..

its a pretty fun car actually...its very eagar to rev and rev and rev..all the way to the 7,800 rpm revlimiter...they have very strong breaks and handle pretty damn good...

he talked alot of smack about my LB9 but one race and that all stopped
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Old Mar 24, 2012 | 06:19 PM
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Re: Focus SVT vs. 86 Z28

Yes, auto is better off the line. Those hardcore manual lovers out there will swear to every thing they hold sacred that a manual is better in every single way. For the most part they are better, but off the line? No. There is a reason drag racers, serious drag racers, use an auto, same as track guys using a manual.
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Old Mar 24, 2012 | 08:51 PM
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Re: Focus SVT vs. 86 Z28

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Yes, auto is better off the line. Those hardcore manual lovers out there will swear to every thing they hold sacred that a manual is better in every single way. For the most part they are better, but off the line? No. There is a reason drag racers, serious drag racers, use an auto, same as track guys using a manual.
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Old Mar 25, 2012 | 12:55 AM
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2004? That HAS to be a new record.....
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Old Mar 25, 2012 | 01:56 AM
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LMAOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old Mar 25, 2012 | 09:55 PM
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Had no idea it was that old. I just troll the street racing boards for laughs and cause some are interesting. My bad. Very funny "Necromancy" though.
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