heading to work this morning and took the back road to avoid the ridiculous parking lot on the interstate, came up to a light with a nice little stretch ahead. Out of nowhere all i heard was a loud a$$ blow-off valve and next thing i knew a silver srt-4 was beside me. He picked up on the blower whine coming from my car and said "sounds good but those american cars are tanks and that is whats killing them". For some reason that light stayed on red for a good 4-5mins. but anyways i decided that i wasn't even gonna downshift to take him so i left it in drive as it was when i stopped...light goes green and instantly i had about a car and a half on him and kept pulling from him seriously. Coming up on a side street on my side this little lady looked as if she was about to pull out so i slowed down to avoid a wreck if anything and it still took him couple secs to catch up and when he did he flew by with his 4way flashers on, tooting his horn and carrying on! I was looking for another good light to crack his skull but didn't get the chance but oh well, hope i catch him again.

 

Did you remind him which country builds and markets the Neon?

 

hahaha....thats exactly what I was going to say

 

I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't know lol! but an srt-4 should be much lighter than a 3rdgen though.

 

Not ones that have drivers with big mouths.
Big mouth = more weight

 

Nice kill.

with all that horsepower you have he was probably sucked by from the vacum when you let off the gas. that would explain the flashers.

 

I always find it funny when people with autos say "they didn't feel like they had to downshift to beat this guy". When you're starting from a dead-stop....you're going to start in 1st gear whether you put the shifter in 1, 2, D, or OD. Putting it in first will allow you to hold the gear out longer if your trans hasn't been rebuilt with proper governers for your application, but that is the only advantage to putting it in 1st gear. You don't get any extra power by having it in a setting other than "D"

Those cars aren't THAT much lighter than third gens. 2900ish lbs. Depending on the thirdgen, they can be between ~3200 and ~3600 I suppose. My car is still 100% streetable with all safety pieces intact still (not missing bumper supports or crash beams), and it should be close to 3000lbs.

 

I don't think there are many cars that can compete with yours.

 

When I go to race (track or street) I'll downshift it into first, launch, then put it in third. The reason for such is that on a street tire launch on the street sometimes you have to pedal the bitch so much it feels like it might go into second. Or at least thats how I feel.

 

Okay, that I understand. I'm not saying I don't do it. But I do it because I haven't rebuilt my trans yet or changed the governors so it likes to shift at 4800-5000 still, and that's right in the middle of my powerband these days.

 

You know what's funny? Every Honda I've ever driven/owned that was an auto would shift right at redline if you floored it, and would only short shift during normal driving. Why don't they just make their trannies like that and nip the problem in the bud?

 

The factory setting for 3rd gens was to shift just past peak power and not at total engine redline. The car was the fastest this way. Honda's make their peak power near redline where as the stock 3rd gen V8's did not. The stock shift points reflect that for both cars. When people add mods they can make use of a little more powerband. Shifting manually will bypass the stock setting to allow them to make use of their wider power band. Since the 3rd gens never had a PCM you cannot electronically change the shift points like you can with modern auto cars. They are pre-set for an engine that made peak power at 4500 rpm. There aren't many cheap solutions to change the shift points of the 700R4 so it is just easier to manually shift when you have an engine that makes power past 4500 rpm.

 

I knew you were good for something.

 

actually TCI or B&M makes a governer spring replacement kit. change out the springs in the governer and you will change the shift points in all the gears. i believe the kit costs around $40. alot of Vette guys have done this

 

Another advantage of starting in manual 1st or 2nd is higher line pressure. A different boost valve is used which increases the clutch(s) & band load capacity. Speaking of the 700R4 trans. . .

RBob.

 

This thread is like someone bragging that they beat their little sister in a basketball game...

C'mon a blown 383 against a 4 banger... It doesnt matter how much the other guy talks, thats a lame-*** kill.

 

That 4 banger could give a z06 a run for its money with little modification and more then likely could rip your car apart. I have seen modded Srt-4's up close and personal and I wouldnt talk bad about them unless I was sure i could beat them but even then they are neat little cars IMHO.

 

Neat little cars?? Who cares?
Obviously different classes.
If he wouldve beat a car that is close to his power range than OK. If someone wants to talk about beating an SRT-4 with a 305, OK.
I dont think i have ever heard of Tiger Woods saying "Yea, I just smoked this 10-year old on the Mini golf course who was talking all this smack".

BTW, if you think I'm bashing the SRT-4's, please do yourself a favor and drive to your local junior college and take a reading comprehension class.

 

hahaha, that's what i was thinking when I saw his mod list on the side.
a lightly modded 350 beating one would be more impressive.
you need to stick to racing more high end cars like Z06's and new Cobras.

 

if i'm in the mood, i'll race any "decent" or "fairly respectable" car if they bring me a challenge. The way I look at it is that we're not racing for cash, a trophy or pinks slips and at the end of it all everybody has fun and still go home with their cars.

 

There is absolutely nothing wrong with putting people in their place. After all, what is the difference between just having fun driving your car fast by yourself, and having a stock SRT-4 Neon two blocks behind you?

 

I couldn't have said it better Stu!!!

 

These days its run what you brung...no classes, no whiners!

 

It sure is lol!

 

Here are some whiners for you from Honda-tech.

The guy lost his Civic on Pinks to a T/A. Enjoy.

http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1407298&page=1

 

Yea, because nothing is more interesting than reading about how my Twin Turbo'd 427 beat this punk in a sentra.

 

The point of the thread wasn't to brag about beating a car that didn't have a chance. It was for everyone who's ever run into some guy acting like a total assclown and wasn't able to put them in their place. Talk about a whiner.

 

Oh was that the point of the thread...thanks for the clarification. I never thought I would learn something from someone who uses the phrase "assclown."

 

Good one....

 

so he embarrassed those 2, what's the problem?

if nothing else next time they might think twice.

the part that makes these cars so much fun, for me at least, is no one sees it comming. i have trouble even getting some of the folks with vettes etc to even consider giving me a try. of course when they do.........

next time maybe they will show some respect for their betters.

"run what you brung, no classes, no whiners"........

by the way.......i have been looking for this fire-engine red moped around here.....

 

Agreed. By the way, killer set-up! What is you're best run, to date....?

 

ya i agree with the above posts....the kid put down a great american car and you had to show them what your "tank" could do.....if anyone in a 4 banger is dumb enough to line up with a car like his they should deffinately be put in their place. good job man

 

Yeah thats one Bad A$$ set up. i gotta say 383 superchargerd. i drove a lighting at work the other day and its a 5.4 supercharged and i about $hit my pants.but isn't the Srt-4 Engine a Mitsubishi motor? Thats what i heard some where or read. Any truth?

By the way Nice Kill..

 

my best run to date was an 11.6 on my street tires(yokohama 275/40/17) with the old P-1 set-up, no IC and 11psi. Come spring to early summer i'm gonna install the snow water/meth injection system i already have....with that and the 3core race IC i'll be shooting for around 18psi then see what kinda times i get...any estimates??

 

warp factor 3?

 

LMAO!!!

 

now that my Z is finished and is where i want it to be, it's time for project #2 in the form of a '71 chevelle im trying to close the deal on(its in cherry condition so the owner is driving a hard bargain). If i get it i'll be comtemplating a 454 with an F-2 from ati...think i'm about to wet my pants just talking about it lol!

 

isn't the Srt-4 Engine a Mitsubishi motor?

 

Uhh, he alaready posted how he smacked around an 03-04 Cobra a few days ago.

Anyway those 2 homos in the Neon were just asking for it.

 

I would much rather read something like this than, "can my TBI 305 beat a Saturn?"

 

i'm sorry. i'm still trying to get over the 614whp.


i'll think about that while i make love to my wife tonight.

 

just don't make car noises while you think about it

 

I love how they say it is a street car.. no front bumper. no rear bumper, you can tell that the thing has minimal interior... I figure they are just Mad because they figured it was going to be an easy race... people seriously do not give f-bodies enough credit... I bet if they would have won they would be braggin it up bad mouthing f-bodies.

 

don't make car noises?

does the sound of burning rubber count?

 

I just think its funny about how the kids in the 4 door (read weight) american car talk about how 'those american cars are tanks.'

And just so stu (or anybody else for that matter) doesnt jump down my throat i know srt4's are very respectable cars.

Friend of mine in highschool had a stock one down to the plugs and tires. Ran a 14.0 flat. And i wouldnt say he was a professional driver.

 

Why would I jump down your throat?

I think that Civic usually had all the bumpers and stuff, but if you were risking losing it, you might take some stuff off (although, I don't know why the bumpers, maybe that picture is out of context.)

 

Sorry Stu! Coulda sworn you had got on someones case for dissing the srt-4, which i was trying to make sure everyone knew i wasnt.

Its pretty d amn hard to show emotion thru the screen, i was just joshin' ya.

 

in response to your asking about estimates of your quarter mile ET, leeperry I don't see any reason that on 18 PSI you shouldn't hit 9s. No reason at all, unless you car isn't set up for it - I.E. no roll cage, no suspension, etc.

 

i have no doubt that my suspension will handle..i wear some of the best names in the business and they are properly matched. I don't have a cage as yet but i'll look into a 10pt chromoly installation for next season though..i have spohn sfc's on there so it should be ultra firm with the cage added.

 

isn't the Srt-4 Engine a Mitsubishi motor?


FOR THE 3Rd TIME!

Thanks