What do you guys think? My 89 GTA 350 TPI auto 120,000 CAI, hooker catback, upgraded tranny against stock srt-4? Will he slaughter me or will it be close oh and he can drive decent too?

I know for a fact a stock srt-4 is capable of a 14 flat, ive seen a friends timeslip for his stock (down to rubber and spark plugs) car.

So they will definetely give you a run for your $. Depends on the kind of race, basically you own him off the line and then he'll catch you down the track. This is assuming your car is running well.

yeah i figured they ran low 14's so i will need some more stuff to take him car runs great and has 3.27's what if we went from like 15 or 30 would he take me then

I would have to throw my hate in with the neon, those little guys are pretty quick.

Starting from a roll will give him the advantage. What you have on him is torque and traction (rwd). The higher the initial start the more likely he will leave you in the dust.

My mild iroc was able to keep them @ bay from a stop no problem, from a roll (esp highway speed) they still gave me a run.

Sounds like your geared well already a lil more stall maybe ram air ( a/c flexible ducting and a lil clean up under the air filter works well) and some dremel time on the ol' tpi setup, shorty headers and some 3in exh will work wonders.

even from a dig those fairy dusters are fairly quick. I raced a stage 1 neon and he was right with me from a dig. I didn't start pulling on him till the end of second. Maybe headers, stall, and drag radials u will kill him

at the strip most i see run low 15 cuz they cannot launch worth a damn. so go from a stop

I've seen them all run mid 14's and I'm a mile above sea level. In '04 they started coming with a limited slip differential, which makes a HUGE difference for FWD's with power, so I guess your chances just depend on which year you race. I'd still say he has you though.

bigjay89gta , Do you have 2.77's or 3.27's?

Must be some really crappy drivers where you are. The only time I see 'em run that slow is when California Dragway has especially lousy conditions. Most of them run low 14s stock but plenty show up with Stage 1, 2 or more done to them and run as quick as high 12s

Now stu, you of all people know that a mile high for a turbo car is nowhere near as bad as a naturally aspirated car under the same thin air conditions. That little hair dryer makes up for much of the loss.

The point I'm making is that I see the same times as people at sea level, which means that those people are worse drivers. Turbo cars lose about half a second in the quarter mile, while supercharged and N/A lose about a full second. Just in case someone didn't know that very broad and unspecific rule of thumb.

stu is right, these neons are quick and should do lower 14's.. my friends does mid high 13's and he is basically stage 1 tune and bigger downpipe. he traps 104.

stock for stock tho, L98 will have its hands full for sure. mild mods l98 that runs great should be capable of high 13's. that will be pretty close to SRT4's from any race, roll or dig

Oh, I knew you knew this, I was actually more surprised that you didn't pass this tidbit along in your original post. You're normally more detailed than this, which I happen to appreciate. I'm being serious here and I mean that as a compliment, so don't think I'm poking fun at you or anything.

3.27's

You are going to need some more mods.
Go to the track, get a baseline. Then get some Headers, runners and intake, and some good traction along with all the little free mods such as tb bypass, filter, gut air boxes, ect. Then you should have em.

I have all the free mods except tb bypass planning on getting heads next month as well as AFPR and maybe an off the shelf chip until i have time to tune. With that you think I would get him?

[QUOTE=89IrocZ350TPIget some Headers, runners and intake, and some good traction along with all the little free mods such as tb bypass, filter, gut air boxes, ect. Then you should have em.[/QUOTE]

These mods should put you in the 13.9-14.1 range. Also alot of people say a good torque converter with a 2600-2800 stall really helps out.

A good TC is a great mod for a TPI car, or any auto car in general.

is going to a stall going to change how it drives like will it hurt gas mileage or cause more wear and tear on my car since it is a daily driver

you will have your hands full.They are very quick and The SRT-4 pulls just about 240hp

i have an l98 iroc with similar mods, i raced a buddys 04 srt-4 a while back. i could keep up with him from a stop just fine, but from a freeway roll i was toast....should be close from a dig, those things are really quick

And they are cute.

They look like little smarties or skittles when they are painted with those funky colors.

A torque converter is used to transmit power from the engine to the driveshaft. So I wouldnt think it would make a noticeable difference in mpg, but your car will feel a little quicker out of the hole. As far as wear and tear goes i wouldnt worry about it.