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Old Apr 3, 2007 | 08:34 PM
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From: wapak,ohio
Car: 1991 GTA trans am
Engine: 305 tpi
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.73
Help plz

Well there is this kid at my school that his dad just bought him a 1996 z28. Well all he does is run his mouth about how fast his car is. And im just wondering what is it gonna take to beat a stock lt1 with a 305 tpi. (auto)

Here are my mods.

edelbrock tes headers
flowmaster 80 series
aluminum driveshaft
ram air intake
air foil
t/b bypass
3.73 Gears
1.6 comp roller rockers
2 piece underdrive pullies
AFPR
b/f goodrich drag radials
160 stat
msd coil
8.8 wires
corvette servo
trans go shift kit
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Old Apr 3, 2007 | 09:09 PM
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From: Garland, texas
Car: 1989 Pontiac Trans Am GTA
Engine: 350 TPI
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.23 9 bolt
Re: Help plz

You will never know until you run the car. his lt1 may not run that well and your car may be on the money. there are a lot of variables. but i would say you have a pretty solid as well as fresh motor to run his stock lt1 with god knows how much abuse. Give it a go and let us know.
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Old Apr 3, 2007 | 11:15 PM
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Car: 92 trans am clone
Engine: LO3
Transmission: 700r4
Re: Help plz

depends if the kid can drive. lt1s are quick if driven very well if not itll be all tire spin. if hes good youll lose by a good amount id say
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 06:29 AM
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From: Chico/Antioch California
Car: 1989 iroc Z Hardtop
Engine: 350 tpi
Transmission: 700r4
Re: Help plz

You should be able to beat him.

But who knows...
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 10:36 AM
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Car: 1991 GTA trans am
Engine: 305 tpi
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.73
Re: Help plz

The car runs ok I guess I have seen better.It also has completely bald tires on the back.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 11:18 AM
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Car: 91 RS
Engine: 350 TBI
Transmission: WC T5
Axle/Gears: 3.42 Posi
Re: Help plz

Is his car a manual? If so, it sounds like he is a little tool so hope he can't launch it. Bald tires wont help him any. You seem to have quite a few mods on there, I have a feeling your car runs pretty well. Make sure you nail the launch and hope for the best

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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 11:42 AM
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Car: 1991 GTA trans am
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Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.73
Re: Help plz

His car is a auto.

My car runs great. I havent lost yet. (but I have only races 3 times. lol

88 5.0
96 4.6 gt
81 trans am 355
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 12:58 PM
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Re: Help plz

whats it run at the track? i will say the LT1 SHOULD win, but on the street with street tires a bus can beat a ferrari. just the nature of the beast. even if you win, it doesnt necessarily mean you have a faster car....
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 12:58 PM
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Car: 1989 T/A
Engine: PROCHARGED LB9
Transmission: FB BUILT 700r4 2200 stall
Axle/Gears: 10 BOLT EATON 3:73 POSI
Re: Help plz

go from a 25 mph roll, leave it in d and mash it, ounce u have a good lead let go. and go to school a happy man.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 01:06 PM
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Car: 1991 GTA trans am
Engine: 305 tpi
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.73
Re: Help plz

If I beat him in the 1/4 how do I not have the faster car? Im j/w dont understand that.

I dont know what the car runs now. I ran 15 flat last year with stock everything except a k&n (stock 2.73 gears.)
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 02:36 PM
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Car: 1986 Camaro SC
Engine: Bolt-on/cam 305
Transmission: 700R4 w/ 2500stall
Axle/Gears: 3.73 10bolt Posi
Re: Help plz

Run from the stop, drag radials and 3.73's should rape inexperience and bald tires. I would think you could touch a 14.5 w/ a real good 60', which you should be able to nail. The only thing your combo lacks is a good converter. Even w/o that, I'm sure you're holeshot would be strong enough to hold of the LT1, which might have more top end, but would be making up a bit of time just to catch you.

Originally Posted by 8T9 BANDIT
go from a 25 mph roll, leave it in d and mash it, ounce u have a good lead let go. and go to school a happy man.
I defintely wouldn't go w/ that idea, 25mph w/ 3.73's and the 700r4 is gonna put you dead bottom of second, and w/ a stock converter and a 305, thats gonna be weak. If its gotta be from a roll, it better be less than 15mph, or great than 40mph with those gears.
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 12:53 PM
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Car: 1991 GTA trans am
Engine: 305 tpi
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.73
Re: Help plz

What does a stock lt1 run? I have heard 14.6 but i dont know.

I also am having a 100 shot installed. What should I do.

Should i take my chances of getting beat strait up or should I run the 100 shot. I really have no Idea what I would run with that.

If a car could run 14.5 and you add a 100 shot what would that bring it to?
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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 02:34 AM
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Car: 1991 L03 700r4 RS
Engine: 1987 WS6 Trans AM Lb2
Transmission: Th350 red neck Performance 3k stall
Axle/Gears: 95 Mustang 8.8 built with 3.73s
Re: Help plz

Race from a dig, with the 100 shot you should be completely covered. Don't tell him you sprayed though or you'll never hear the end of it. The LT1 cars can be well into the 13's stock and respond well to mods, or they can be 15 second dogs (his is probably the latter considering bald tires, that usually points to poor maintenance). With a 100 shot you should shave a little over 1 second off spraying a few feet out in first, a little more if you can spray out of the hole. This will put you right at where the best of the stock LT1's should be and keep you insured against a loss.
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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 03:14 AM
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Car: 85 IROC-Z
Engine: 355 TPI
Transmission: 700R4w/Shift Kit
Axle/Gears: B/W 9 Bolt-3.45
Re: Help plz

Your car ran 15 flat from the factory maybe a little quicker since it's a 91 with mods you have you should be right on the money with the LT1 it's worth a shot if you lose the first time use the bottle the second time just keep it close so he doesn't think you have the bottle. My 85 iroc with the 305 TPI ran 15 flat from the factory and with my 355 is good for high to mid 13's. Give it a shot and let us know.
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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 03:41 AM
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Car: 1984 Trans Am
Engine: broken 385sbc
Transmission: G-Force rebuilt T-5
Axle/Gears: Currie 9" Ford 4.30:1
Re: Help plz

just run him and give em hell.. if you lose, you lose.. you cant win them ALL.. but you can win MOST.. i have absolutely no idea what a stock LT1 will run.. no one on maui runs one.. its all old school or bolt-on LS1..
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