I was neck and neck with this thing till 130, i started to pull him back in the middle of 4th then we shut down, i mean nose to nose. We were from a 40 roll which just kina happened, we did not even leave to race each other.

What can theese do in the 1/4?

I know it was no a dig which he would killed me outta the hole but he had:

Turbo
Pipes
Intake
Cams
Tune
blah blah blah,
All the **** you need in one i guess.

He said he went 13.1 in the 1/4 stock with a filter box, he doesnt know what he would do now, but i am impressed i was right there with a EVO that has so much, he even brake boosted like a real turbo driver would.

I told him i had 2000$ in my car from bumper to bumper including the car itself and he was kina upset a car with so little and so old was right beside him.

What you guys think?


I think i am going to run him again when i get my 3.73 gears in and kill him.

 

Low 13's is the norm when stock, provided the drivers know how to abuse them.

Just like any factory turbo car you could run across a stock one or a 10 second one and not know until you're looking at tail lights.

 

Yea, his buddy had a EVO with exh,tune,int and cams, i pulled him but not easily. The one i was nose to nose with was a nice ride.

 

Yeah, I wish I could see one on the highway. I never see those cars here.

 

We have a big local EVO and STI attraction with 9 and 10 second cars running around. Was looking at a 1018 whp EVO the other day, and his DD is a 900 whp one?

No idea what this car would run, but knowing what it takes to make an EVO fast (money wise, that kid had $118,000 into the 1018 whp car) I am sure he knew your car was cheaper to build. There are a LOT of negetives to a cheap car as well, so even if he looked down about it, I'm sure when he cranks the AC on, blasts the good stereo and drives in some kind of tame comfort, he doesnt think about it anymore.

 

I have AC, id rather listen to my motor than the sterio and i love the rough idle, but yea, it hurt his feelings he was not able to drag a old *** 89 camaro with 1000$ in the motor.

 

No offense but that wouldn't hurt my feelings. Think about it it terms of "extremes". Is a 2007 Corvette owner going to be sad if you beat him? Or if I did in my truck? Hell no, they're riding in a brand new ****ing Corvette. Is a Lambo, or other exotic, owner going to be sad if they lose at the drag-strip to some kid in a Fox-body Mustang? Hell no. Budget is all fine and dandy, but you get what you pay for. And those guys got more...

 

To some, there is more to a car then brute acceleration.
Not me though.

 

Well, some do get upset, some get their feeling hurt, not all. Maybe less than 10%, but yep, some really get bothered.

For me, i take pride than no one will probably ever beat me in a car with less money in it, that feels great to me.

 

What does it run? Our 86 GT has probably $2000 or less into it (inclusing getting the car) and has been 12.17 @ 110. Gets 26-28 mpg on the highway and other than killing one stock 5-speed, it has been solid as can be! Just some friendly competition there . The 86 is faster than mine with a bunch less in it, but mine has been shot for magazines, and stands out from most others. I don't mind faster cars for cheaper, there are usually reasons they were cheaper.

 

Well, i did a similation and if my car was making 435 hp and 448 tq it said it would go 12.47 with a 2.2 60' witht he 2.73 gears. With 3.73 it said 11.98. So far every time i did a calculation it has been on the dot when i hit the track, but this time the problem is that i actually built the engine to make 475ish, so it should go faster.

This is a pretty good similator and has not ever been off, i will be happy as can be if it does what it produced or better, but i havent even done all my weight reduction.

 

Is the simulator online? I would love to try it out with some of the cars I have owned or know of!

 

I'm guessing that '86 isn't too pretty looking for only costing $2000. The sleeper look is cool with me, but it's nice to look good while being fast too.

 

I can't see consistent 11s out of a Camaro with a T5 and a 7.5" 10 bolt.

I wanna run my numbers through the simulator. I got plenty of timeslips too, so I know what I run.

 

Your right it is beat, abused and ugly...



Also take a look at the pic in my sig, your preaching to the choir. I like looking good as well!

 

That was with the T56, dana 44 and 3.73 gears.

The similator is Xbox IHRA drag racing, everything is perfect down to weight, tires and engine specs, you have to manually enter everything, it even gives you 0-60, 0-100 and a few of the in betweens.

 

all the Evo's in my area are slow and i know cause when i had my LG4 in i would smoke them and thats bad but ima goto Courtney Campbell in a few weeks and see whos there but anyway wish i could see 1 i my area

 

Well, it depends on the year, i dont know of a EVO that didnt run 13s that i can remember. The regular Lancer was slow.

 

I have IHRA Drag Racing II. The engines make similar power to what it might in the real world, thats about it. The one I have sucks as far as track numbers go. We tried my friends motor which has been 10.41 @ 129, and on this game it showed a low 12 @ 120 or so. Not even close to what the car really runs.

 

ahh but we all know about the x factor. and the pope's magic. and the fact that x box sucks, ps3 ftw!

i've seen you on here talking about 2000 from bumper to bumper,, don't get me wrong that's sweet, but you kinda allready had a bunch of parts tucked about didn't you?? i want the whole story.

also, on the note of budget speed, how bout this, my dad is Mr.Mopar as far as i know, in all of northern ohio. He has dozens, and i mean dozens of old school mopars and mopar parts around including a couple of rare as hell aluminum slant sixes. i've posted about his 1970 charger r/t before (est. 425 hp) Now just using parts he has around, and a rust free dodge diplomat, 1980's era we just acquired for, i believe less then 500, i might have you on paper.

for "free" we can have a big block chrysler in it with a torque flite, 8-3/4's rear, fat tires, the works, just from stuff sitting around. if i drop the velour interior (among other things) out of it i bet i can get it into the lighter end of 3000 lbs, similar to a G3FB, but with, eh mid 500's on torque. now, since all that would be less then 700 dollars assuming some work was done to said peices parts, i think that for less then 1500 dollars we could massage the BBCHr. to put out some serious power thru the proven Tqflite/8-3/4's combo.

faster uglier AND cheaper so HAH! then again Chrysler always pulled ugly and cheap off pretty well.

even if the big block won't fit we have a plethora of small block stuff, including some 340's and maybe even a six pack manifold (not positive).

We had at one point dreamed of building a dart swinger with a turbo aluminum slant six, would have been fun.

 

My IHRA racing 204 is the one i use, you have to really know how to enter everything and get it right, so far it has been right on.



As for whats in the car, no, i didnt have all the stuff laying around.


Car started but would die, need bosy parts that i did have laying around, but that doesnt count.

Car 500$

Block that was in the car i had machined 190$

intake 50$

carb, free(i stole it off a truck)

cam 245$

383 rotating assy with gaskets, ballanced, with ballancer, rings bearings and vortec heads...yep...500$

Headers 50$ used

fuel pump 105$

sub frames 50$ used

yada yada yada, the small things and all that is more, the heads i am using now were 300$ with roller rockers ready to boly on, came with a cam so big i cannot use it. I sold the vortec heads for 500$, so subtract that i guess. Then if you wanna pick it apart i have tires and brakes and clutch, i dont really count the wear out parts. I have convo pro wheels i picked up for 300$.


Deals, my car is powered by them, hell, my seats with brackets were 50$. I did have hood, fender and GFX laying around, but i am pretty sure that didnt make it run any better

 

My dad got the chassis for work he did, traded some parts for others, the motor was built using used parts, Explorer heads, cobra intake, tb, maf, pulleys, headers, midpipe, and catback. The rear came out of a car we got wrecked, and the wheels and tires were the biggest purchase (wheels actually). My brother and dad had a running tally of it, and it was south of $2000. Sure it isn't a show car, but does what it does well. Full interior, working power windows, locks, heat, and high 20 mpg .

Oh yeah I was using IHRA today, have a 96 Mustang running mid 6's...

 

You ran a Lancer, not an EVO.

 

x2 i would love to see a 150 hp 3400lbs car beat an evo.

 

I got a vette that goes 3.9x

 

...I do that in the standing mile.

 

Yeah I havent dedicated that much time to it. Probably could, just never use it anymore!

 

Highly depends on which cams, which turbo, and how much boost he's actually running, not to mention how good of a driver he is. My buddy's GSX Eclipse, w/HKS cams, aftermarket intake, and FP Green Turbo, full 3" exhaust (including down pipe), w/tune, almost put him in the tens, and that's with a pretty moderate boost level, and horrible 60' w/AWD. Too many variables, but if he really does have these mods, then he probably should have pulled you. Some of them are just flat out nasty (Click Here)....

 

If he had all that done and didn't walk all over you I question his driving/tuning abilities. Or he was toying with you.

My buddy, who I raced from a roll and I got smoked by several cars. He took his car to the track awhile ago:

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I'm certainly not bashing your car, because trust me, I hate rice **** (although this guys is actually COOL AND he drives an Evo) He's got a good sense of humor about it.

Yeah man. Maybe there is a big difference between an 06 and the car my buddy has *shrug*. Good luck! Keep racing him from a roll lol!

 

Sure is, so is this '85 Mustang (Click here)....

 

Lol werd.

 

Well, you have a 400 and go beat? My 408 in the works will be 600hp give or take before N2O. If i got beat with 400 cubes i would be pissed.

 

but you shouldn't be, the evo is a serious ride. It's like a dsm'ers wet dream brought to life. the ability to produce disgusting power AND put it to the ground with red line clutch drop launches. a monkey can pilot them to the moon if the ramps tall enough.

heh, if you hat the evo just wait for the street thrasing the r35 skyline is going to hand out to EVERYONE but the vette. on our own streets no less.

 

Yea, with the 408 in the works i got something for eveyone, if they get me then ill hit the dope.

If i had the money i woulf mount a thir gen body on a cyclone frame and swap the 6 for a 400 cube small block with a single turbo, then see what the iport AWD croud had to say

 

I'm pretty sure that EVO would take you too.

Yeah I have a 400 with vortec heads. I've got about 1500 bucks into the engine and I spent 3000 on the car. Being in college I'm fortunate enough to have a Camaro with something better than a 305 in it. It's not the fastest thing on the street but that's ok. I just like driving it.

 

Well that is your problem, vortec heads on 400 cubes is not going to feed that engine properly. You would gain a ton with something like a 200cc intake runner heads on that 6.6. Honestly, you must not be making any power if you still have a T5 living behind that thing.


11.97@116 doent mean jack from a roll, that is why i didnt race from a dig, i would ge beant over badly im sure.

 

I've run a 12.8 on my setup so far and I expect it to go mid 12s. Not bad for 200 dollar vortec heads. Found the build in a magazine. 430 hp and 525 ft/lbs. And if I had the money to spend on better heads, I'd be spending it on an LSx swap.

And I understand going from a roll is different than going from a dig, but I'm just saying, he has a high 11 second car, with a timeslip to prove it.

 

I understand, you have a torque monster, that is what i would expect, but my car eats everyone up in third gear, you prolly kill from a dig supposing you can hook. I bet you have a great 1/8 mile.
High 11s at the track is great, i bet he has a neck snapping 60 foot, even if it is a bad one it will best any of us unless we have slicks and suspension, and on the street, it is even worse for us. I bet a low 12 second car will 9 out of 10 usually beat a awd high 11 car from a roll, you know im sure.


Ill deffinatly post slips wheni get them, i will record me whooping this blue evo when i get my gear too, just so everyone can see my glory in my 1000$ motor.


My heads werte 300$ with 1.5/1.6 rockers ported and polished pro style with 7/16 studs, guide plates, a cam way too big to use and a running 350 from a 86 chevy i sold for 300$. I made out pretty sweet, they work better than any stock virtec will prolly ever, i had to cut the intake gasket to match them hogged out monsters. They are part of my sleeper that is, few notice they are angle plugs and i have to tell them "No they are not Dart heads...".

 

ahhhh.... i personaly love roll racing.

 

It is a handicap, i dont like to but heck, he didnt offer to go from a dig so i didnt bother putting myself in that situation.

 

Post your motor specs.

 

For what? I honestly dont know all my flow specs on my heads to give an exact estimate.


Bring your ride down here to sea level and see what it run, i bet you drop a bit, allot actually.

 

where do you get a rotating assy and heads etc for $500? Im looking at some big money just for the assy.

of course im buying new but still

 

Sorry LMS, that was just a sweet deal i ran across. Powerhouse sells a 383 assy for 650 last i checked with forged pistons and ARP bolted rods with a new crank, ballancing is additional. Also www.enginekits.com, both are not sponsors but i myself cannot afford sponsors parts verry often.


HTH

 

How come this one isn't 500 bucks!

434SK
POWERHOUSE
Chevrolet 434ci Stroker Kit
$1,160.00
105 LB


Product Description
• 5140 Forged (4.0" Stroke) Stroker Crank
• Forged 7.5cc Dome Piston (14:1 w/64cc or 12:1 w/76cc)
• 5140 Forged 6" I Beam Connecting Rods
• Moly Ring Set
• Clevite Chamfered Rod/Main Bearings

Flexplate: Automatic Transmission

• SOME MACHINING REQUIRED.
• 400ci BLOCK ONLY

***This Kit Must Be Balanced***

NO RETURNS ON STROKER KITS.

 

Drop $1200 - $1300 on nice heads!

 

My previous post was a joke, and even if it was 500 bucks I wouldn't spend money on it.

The engine I have now is going to last me until I get something new.

 

Man, i dont even know if you can use a GM 400 block with that!




Got my new hood!!! Should cut down on wind resistance!!!

 

nice what kind of hood is that and how much did you get it for? I have clearence issues and am looking to invest in a cowl in the near future

 

This one was 270$ and 130$ for shipping. It is a 4 inch from Liberty fiberglass. It is a bolt on too. I wanted another L88 but i woulda spent 400$ plus 180$ for shipping because it was another company that offered it. This hood is advertised on Ebay for 270$ bid or 275$ buy it now, just enter camaro hood and browse a few pages, you find it.