so my car has been getting noticed. It doesnt look all that great but i geuss its an intresting ride. To some one who knows i geuss alot about how his front wheel drive... I geuss he knows alot about my 91 RS also. But he hasnt raced a third gen. He says his car will out do my car in the corners, and he says all in a 4 door compact Nissan Altima 2002. Its crazy, hes really cocky and thinks his GFs 4 cylinder will give my 305 TBI V8 a run for my money.
Please, tell me how these handle on corners. Of coarse this guy also had the nerve to tell me his ride will out do mine in a 1/4 mile. Please comment

 

he's full of ****.http://www.cars.com/nissan/altima/20...=USB20NIC041A0 its only got 175 hp and 180 tq i dont know about your car i got a 1992 firebird 305 tbi and im puting to the tires 202 hp and 268 tq i know i would kill that car and even the 3.5 v6 i would kill it to there the link for the hp numbers on the car

 

They are quicker than you think. You might take the 4cyl but you would have your hands full with the 3.5. And to the OP, Im not sure about corners but Im sure it will give you plenty in a 1/4 mile.

 

haha what do you mean? I was under the impression third gens had the souped up suspension.

 

I said Im not sure about the corners. But my point is that they are pretty quick. The 4cyl runs low 16 1/4 which is right on par with a 305 TBI. The V6s are high 14s, low 15s, plenty enough to outrun a 305 TBI. And if its a newer one, such as a 2010 or 11 they are even faster. Just dont get cocky and get embarrassed, just run em and find out.

 

yeah unforunately new techonology prevails...

 

i tested my suspension for my self around some pretty stout corners, handles like a dream.
one thing i know is i do not really care if he beats me with that 305 TBI., for one reason. The rematch, and hes even told me the next race with a built 400 i still wouldnt stand no chance. Its kinda hard to take him seriously.. Well thanks for the comments, i will keep you guys posted on this. Thanks guys, Alex.

 

ok so heres the deal. I know you guys wanna see this happen. Which it will. I dont say something that wont come true, my excuse as to why it hasnt happened is, GAS! It is out of gas, but as soon as i get the gas ill post a video, intil then imma lighten up the rear. But, if i wanna quater mile with him, he will get me on the DIG. So im not underestimating his front wheel drive since all the weight is in the front. Ill get him eventually, i just recently made a home made air filter out of an old one, put the screens around one shop towel, poked holes in it, and hot glued the stuff together. I test ran it, and to my surprise it idles better, throttle response is better, and most importly, it holds. Thats what i was shooting for.

 

I think you're giving the Altima a bit much. I've seen drag radialed Altimas pull those numbers, but not a stock one.

If my SHO can keep up or outdo an Altima it isn't pulling those numbers. And it can and has.

 

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ok so your telling me this altima is slower than we think? I obviously am gonna stomp him, and i know tire hieght and width play a roll, im running P235 75r15s in the back all four are factory alumuniums off an 80 something camaro, hes running P205s 50R16s if not a lil bigger on some heavy sixteen inch factory chromes.

 

This is a common misconception. You'd think this would be the case, but it's not. When he launches, all that weight will shift towards the rear. Of course, the car is so slow it probably wont matter, and his tires wont spin anyway.

For future reference then. Not exactly useful in this case.

 

All I'm saying is dont be to cocky. If you beat him, I guarantee it wont be you "stomping" him. And I think his wheels are made from the same material as yours. They probably weigh about the same.

 

I have factory chrome wheels that weigh 18.8 pounds. With rubber around 43 or so. Suspect the same for him.

I also didn't say you would win. I'd suspect the opposite. It may be easy to mash the gas and go in an auto, but there is an art to launching still. Not to be rude, but you seem very inexperienced and cocky.

Unless it's the 4 cylinder and then the race gets much closer and you should win.

I'll take you both in the twisties, but I'm not stock in that department.

 

Yeah thats what Im saying. He is being too cocky. Whether he wins or loses I can not be for certain, but I do know it will be a lot closer than he seems to think.

 

ok well im not trying to be cocky. Hes also unexperienced, if anything this guy seems like he'll do w.e it takes to get what he wants.. He has once stole gas outta the back of a truck my bro in law owned.. On the other hand, he comes talking some mean stuff saying he could do a bill fifty, and leave me hanging. If you wanna call me cocky ok. I havent done nothing to this guy and he pulls a fast one, saying his four cylinder car will pull faster than my V8. I have the gas now, and ive got the jist of launching.. Ill be warming my tires up tomorrow.

 

You never gave us an answer as to the motor.

I'll do a bill fifty for you in my Taurus. I'll pull faster then you in 1 of 2 of my 4 cylinder cars. Want to race me too? My Taurus is slow and I know it, but I know what my car can do and I know what your car can do. You came with a thread title like that and are cocky. My Taurus is iffy in the quarter against you, but I would make you sad with my 80's 4 cylinder cars.

It's not even worth playing with him if this is all true anyway. Even if you win you won't really win. Kids always come up with excuses as to why they didn't win. I murdered a turbo civic on the highway with my Taurus, but talking to mutual friends he wasn't racing me. 40-130 seemed like a race to me.

 

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your right, i have nothing to prove to this guy, haha but i wanna race. Might seem cocky, yea. But this is what i would like to do on weekends. I havent raced b4, yea so? Ill gain experience, and i know if he pulls off to hard on a DIG, he wont stand in my way on a qauter. You on the other hand, im not gonna fight with you about a souped up four door tauras, i agree , this guy has a 4 cylinder, and maybe the best mod is the oil change. Has stock air breather.. And mine has one too, has all new plugs and wires. New rotor and cap. He has HEI coil packs, i have an old rusted advance electrical unit to my surprise still works and works well.. The four cylinder he has is 2.5 liter

 

FWIW, that nissan comes with a comfortable suspension setup..nothing that wont prevent any body roll...that alone will kill it on a corner..thirdgens on the other hand can corner quite well in stock form.

 

+1 and true that! My suspension is so firm I feel every single rock, bump, crack, pebbble, and other foreign object on the road, and I wouldn't trade it for anything else. Lol. WS6 FTW everytime!

 

You should be fine then, but you underestimate a lot of things. My Taurus has a 235 horse V8 stock. A dig is iffy if you're in good tune. Most third gen 305s I see around here are low 16 second cars. Mine is not running low 16s in the quarter. After the quarter that car isn't so slow anymore.

In all reality if I told you I'd bring my 4 cylinder car to you and we would play, you would laugh and think I was stupid. Even more if I told you it weighed 3600 pounds, right?

 

4 cylinders turbo charge, prestaging that, would mean put it in neutral, rev it a bit, push the brakes as hard as possible, put on the gas some with brake applyed, of course thats if its a auto. Im geussing your taurus is a sho and is it a stick?
i agree with you, somebody i knew had a V8 sho, and it was wicked. I also heard you can do swaps with a V8 out of a lincoln, cant remember the name, but its a 90s and later model. it was front wheel drive. 4.6 liter, had dual over head cams, all yea have to do is take the front end out from under neath the lincoln, stick in under that taurus. Do some hard shocks.. do a mighty tune to the tranny(shift kit if auto), and CAI with DRs, custom burnt chip, say some mild cams, dual exhaust with headers. your taurus would do some mighty fine times, havent seen one set up like that, but would love to see one built and raced. Put some wheelie bars in the back, push the rear up a bit so you dont shift the wieght to the back on launch..

 

forgot to mention, his gear ratio is 4:09:1

 

your V8 im not knocking 235 horse., of coarse i wasnt knocking his 2.5 liter and what it felt like intil i driven a 3rdgen. Im putting P275/60R15s on my camaro tomorrow, a lil off topic but i was wanting add some of that. But wide skinny dont matter, still gonna spin em a lil. Maybe just a lil. Launch should be better, and i also have a Tach now, installed today, maybe experiement on deserted road of how to launch.

 

Just race him already..

 

i will, dont worry. Wanna do it in the cause, i want it all
on footage. My phone has a camera, would like to get good picture, instead of dark. But of coarse if you want me to ill do it tonight. Use the headlights as the example.

 

well, i would love to say that you would win hands down but it isnt so certain. if your diff is anything like the one in my 91 firebird wich it probably is exactly the same its geared prittty high which doesnt allow for very quick launches especially with a auto. tho i think you should be able to give him a run for his money. i have the same setup in my firebird ,305tbi auto, and have beaten a suped up gti, ran with a honda vtech , and outran an audi a4. so go get em!! i rootin for ya, show that lil jap crap 4banger what a real car is

 

o man im trying but isnt saying much back through texting. O he says he will beat me on the mile, He wont do me in a qauter mile, he told me he had to sleep on it. i was getting ready bout that time. Matter of fact ive poured a lil mix in 1 coffee cup of 3/4s water, 1/4 bleach and throwed that on the tires, i wanna do it but he wont do a quater with me. Haha. What should i do to get him to do it?

 

well im not so sure on any of the drive train, it has a sticker saying some army stuff on there, so previ owners must done some 'mods' 700R4 shifts pretty hard, and the wheels have some what alot of wheel spin, so yea, ima launch at 1500 rpms see if that slows wheel spin. And at 2500, it has alot. Im shooting for a good DIG launch, in first. This things quick when hand shifted

 

Jap crap? Motor is built in Decherd Tennessee, and the body is built in Smyrna Tennesse.

 

The ignorance is blissful in this thread..

 

i've been reading this thread quietly and all i can say is wow...

your 305 is slow, get over it.. better yet dont even race, i can see you guys hurting someone else.

 

just tryin to give the guy a lil encouragement is all

 

Just tell him what he wants to hear so he can learn first-hand.

Your over weight, under powered, outdated turd will blow the doors off of that thing. Go get 'em!

 

If it has a V8 it has to be a SHO. If it has a V8 it has to me an auto. A little research on a lot of things may give you some respect and insight. I didn't come on this board to troll as I had a 85 Firebird I swapped from a locked up V6 to a 262 with ported 307 heads. That thing was torquey, but I got rid of it in favor of Fords -bird. I like third gens, but they aren't this godly power that kids think they are. 2.5S Altimas run high 15s. At best assuming you are mostly stock. So do you. For that matter my Taurus runs mid 15s and that was before suspension on winter treads. Probably still the same times regardless.

If you're trying to spool a turbo in neutral you're doing it wrong. Unless you're moving and you try to brake boost you're still doing it wrong. I'd just hook up the 2 step function in my Megasquirt. Probably should anyway. My Merkur would be a better match for you, but that isn't stock and weighs about 2800 pounds.

You could probably beat my tbi 305 Caprice though. That thing is absurdly slow.

 

Not a forum I frequent, but when I saw mention of a Nisson, interest drew me in. All I can add, for whatever it's worth, is that my 2008 Altima 3.5SE would have kicked the stuffing out of my IROC and its anemic LG4 (155 hp or somewhere in the vicinity.) Even with the many suspenions upgrades my IROC has been subject to, I'm not sure I'd like to tangle with the Altima.

Love both cars for different reasons. Gonna try the 370Z sometime in the future.

JamesC

 

Thats the reason I posted in this thread. We have a 2011 Altima and a 2010 Titan. And my dad works for nissan which pays to put me through school, a roof over my head, and for my thirdgen. Im just slightly partial to Nissan is all lol.

 

You have 235/75/15's? Dude... who's full size truck did you take those off of?!
That's gotta be a 28" tall tire. How does it even fit and why in the world would you have that on there?

 

i wasnt saying i had a 6 or 4 cylinder turbo car >_<... That was off topic for some one who said they had a quick turbo I4.. I dont own a ford anymore.. Even when i owned a ford, my mind was on building sbc. I can build sbc to do w.e for a low price. My launch will consist with mind blowing low end grunt, that just leave me with some tire spin, thanks to the 305 TBI. Of coarse i have no back brakes, so before i got to let off the brakes to launch, the wheels spin before any way. Just not right. So im thinking i can get away with a slow launch then stomp it. O and the tires on the back do fit, they dont rub surprisingly, i didnt put em on there, guy i got the car from put em on... I have some P275/60R15s going to replace those P235/75R15s

 

ok so i dont think ill ever get this guy to race me in a 1/4 mile so we wont have to worry bout this thread, guys like that talk a bunch of bull s**t and dk how to back it up. Pisses me off >:|

 

ok i aint disagreeing with you on the 305 part cause quite frankly it is underrated, well when i build the 400 sbc, dont be telling me my car is too fast.
And this is a street racing part of the forum, who said anyone was safe? No one is. So how can you say im gonna hurt somebody when many of people just like yourself race. Wander if your skilled at it, but how did you become experienced? By racing the streets millions of times. So please share your thoughts some more

 

Underrated? Not really, people on this site no exactly the limits of a 305. Tell you your car is too fast with a 400? Have you seen some of the cars on this site? Im quite sure you wont be "too fast." Stock TBI 305s are slow, everyone here knows that. You wont convince anyone of the opposite. Like most threads in here, I'm sure this one will not come about. And if it so happens to, I doubt we'll get a truthful response or one at all. Due to you loosing. You start this thread and refuse to listen to the negative posts which exceed the positive. And FYI, if he will race you in a mile; you would have to race a 1/4 mile.

 

for one, i can tell you are "young" just by the way you are typing in the forums... and who says i race? i never said that.

a stock 305 tbi is slow, if you build a 400 it may be faster but not the fastest...

oh by the way i have a 380rwhp/420 rwft lb 305

 

unsubscribing form the most pointless thread I have ever been in...

 

Lol this is funny...im pretty sure my 1990(ancient) toyota celica would put these stock 305's to shame. just my 2 pennies, but i think it would be a close call between the nissan and the rs. Kinda depends on how well they can drive. But i would be rooting for the camaro naturally lol

 

I got a 24 year old 3,300lb 6 cylinder in my garage that is bone stock and will walk all over your 305... build the 400; I'll switch the tires and run race fuel and still run you down



Oh and my girlfriend is hotter than your hand.



And on another note, I don't know why I still come to this site. I no longer own a 3rd gen.

 

remember your vehicle. Year to year we win hands down. He has about 20 years of technology on you. Unless your car is freshley tuned up it will NOT hit whatever stock horsepower is rated at. And corners if you can hand the oversteer he will have massive understeer because of his front drive

 

Nice!