what does this car run in the 1/4?

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Nov 2, 2001 | 12:24 AM
  #1  
what does a dodge dart equipped with a 426 hemi run in the 1/4?

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Nov 2, 2001 | 02:22 AM
  #2  
Quite possibly the most bada$$ car to come off any assembly line, they ran mid-high 10's bone stock and 9's with slicks . They only produced 70 of them and all came race ready, not even street legal and sold without a title. When is mopar going to have the ***** to make another car like that? Lets hope soon. For more info, check out the september issue of Muscle Car Review.
Nov 2, 2001 | 05:42 PM
  #3  
yeah really
when is mopar gonna get outta trucks and old people cars... hahaha
if i had a choice, i'd be hard put to choose between a camaro and a new mopar (comparable)
nothing sounds like a mopar engine, and in my opinion, nothing runs like an old mopar...
they really kinda started it all...
shew, sorry....
had to get that off my chest
Nov 2, 2001 | 10:53 PM
  #4  
Huh?

My dad was an executive for Chrysler from 65 to 71. One of the terms of his employment was that he was obligated to accept a company car. It had to be a Chrysler product, could be any of them. He was not allowed to keep it past 3000 miles. He was the warehouse manager of a parts depot; the stories he could tell about the number of warranty crankshafts and Hemi 4-speeds that went through that place would curl the hair on your toes.

He brought home every cool car they made through those years. Hemi Cudas, 6-pack Chargers, 440 New Yorkers, a Daytona Super Bee, etc. etc....

There were no 10-second cars among them. There were no 12 second cars for that matter. There were several I can recall that were mid 13s, or would have been with modern tires anyway; I doubt that any of them could have pulled off a 2.4 60'. The fastest car I can remember him bringing home was a 440 Charger with a single Holley 4-barrel, it seemed faster to me than the Hemi cars or the 6-pack 440s (in stock trim remember). They all came with cast-iron exhaust manifolds like everything else. They were equipped with the staggeringly high traction (gription?) of Firestone Red Stripe "Wide Oval" F70-14 bias-ply tires.

It's funny what you see on the Internet these days. All of us who have been building cars for a while will tell you that power lives in the heads, and not to spend money on any old stock heads because the new ones are better; yet at the same time you hear all these fanciful romantic tales about how fast those cars were, mostly from people who read it in magazines. I can tell you what they were like, I was there, I don't have to read magazine articles to get my facts. Cars are finally just in the last few years getting back to where they're fast, much faster even than those were, after a long dry spell through the 70s and the early fuel injection years up to the mid-90s. IMHO the LT1 is the first GM FI engine to have even a remote chance to claim itself the title of a "performance" motor, and it's nowhere close to 1 HP per CI. The LS1 is a contender though.

Mopar didn't "start" anything. If anybody did, it was Ford. Then when Chevy came out with the small block in the 50s it became the instant favorite. Chrysler was a copycat. The only thing they did that was at all innovative was to put hemi motors in cars, and even the first ones of those (the 392, in the late 50s) were not terribly exciting. The Chevy 283 was the first American production car engine to break the 1 HP per cubic inch mark off the showroom floor, in 1957. I don't recall the hemi Chryslers doing any better, even 10 years later.

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Nov 2, 2001 | 11:33 PM
  #5  
Not to mention that "back in the day" they rated horsepower in gross format which is much higher than todays standard of SAE-net.

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Nov 3, 2001 | 05:00 AM
  #6  
actualy i beleive (don't quote me on this) that the hemi darts where produced in conjunction with hurst. they did only make about 70 of them, and where NOT really pruduction dodges, but basicly dart body's sent to be produced with hemi's in the for the street stock race teams. came "stock" with a roll cage and slicks :-)
Nov 3, 2001 | 06:21 AM
  #7  
Funny, I hear tales of people bolting slicks on some of these hemi powered cars straight of the showroom floor and having them be able to pull the front wheels. With the one's I've raced, all of them but 1 has walked me and that was a '73 Challenger with a 360 in it so I can believe the truth to the stories.

I believe the question is more or less referring to a production Dart that's undergone a motor swap. To put it lightly...I raced a hemi challenger on the highway one day from 60 on up, which is where my car really shines, and he walked me like I was standing still. Throw that motor into a lighter car like the Dart, and he'd be even faster. Mopar had all kinds of electrical problems back in the muscle car days, but Year 1 makes just about everything you can think of to restore/update these cars.

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