RSX Type-S
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RSX Type-S
How would a L98 fair against one of these with a 6 speed?
I seen that other thread about the rsx but hes not talking about the type-s.
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I seen that other thread about the rsx but hes not talking about the type-s.
Thanks
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Originally posted by vortecfcar
If you lose you will be reprimanded accordingly.....
No seriously.....dont even think about losing to one of these
If you lose you will be reprimanded accordingly.....
No seriously.....dont even think about losing to one of these
Hurray!
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Car and Driver got a 14.8@95mph- so could go either way.....I would suspect the RSX has wicked top end and theres where you might lose.
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You got about 40 Hp on him and he's got about 400 Lbs on you.... I'd say it's close, but you should take him due to the massive torque difference between the two.
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That sounds good. If I am going street race, its a 0-80 thing. I dont do 130 + freeway races or anything.
One of my friends has one, don't worry your safe. They are still cool though. The tachometer reminds me of my W41 Achieva they both redline at 8,000rpm. The RSX S is quick and can rev high but in stock form the L98 will win. My buddy beats Mustangs in his all the time, even the occasional 305 too. With an exhaust and a different air intake it could be faster????
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the rsx can easily take a 305. as for top end, thats where IVTEC is and where we are best. the camaro has the low end advantage, and probably more torque. but with I/H/E and a few other cheap mod's, it can easily be a 250 hp car. now to the question at hand.... i believe it would be a toss up. the s has weight, and high end in its favor but the 5.7L has more hp's. i would say it comes down to the driver. just my .02 though
If your only going to 80 you should win, that's only a little more than an 1/8 mile. You should be able to wind out 1st and 2nd and take away his top end advantage. As long as you don't spin bad you should be good. In a full quarter he would probably start to catch you though.
now that i have asked around, i am sure of it. the 5.7L would be ahead while in 1st, but once the type s hits 2, its over. i talked to a guy and he said by 3rd he had a 5.7L beat by 1 1/2 car lengths. a bunch have claimed kills on 5.7L IROC's. your's is a late 80's model i assume. and everyone agreed, a well driven rsx would take it
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I dunno, Ive been doin research myself, many places say mid 15's in the 1/4.
And Cody knows someone who has one and drove in it, and said I should be ok.
Its ok If I did lose, Im stock.
If we do go from a stop to 80, he wont be passing me. My car hooks awesome!! I should grab some nice length there. When It goes down I'll record it and show you guys.
And Cody knows someone who has one and drove in it, and said I should be ok.
Its ok If I did lose, Im stock.
If we do go from a stop to 80, he wont be passing me. My car hooks awesome!! I should grab some nice length there. When It goes down I'll record it and show you guys.
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I know you're gonna win! I have a friend that really killed one at the track in his 87 iroc. All he has done is a k&n and catback and ran a 14.4 . The rsx type s was running 15's all night. That means it would be a close race between a 305 tpi 5 speed with the g92 right? Haven't people pulled like mid 14's with one of these stock? The best time I have seen with a type s is a 14.9. And that was with CAI and fartpipe! Just race and see!
Quite a fast little car isn't it? I wouldn't mind one, beats the hell out of the ugly *** 4 circle light integras!
Quite a fast little car isn't it? I wouldn't mind one, beats the hell out of the ugly *** 4 circle light integras!
Last edited by elevario; Mar 25, 2002 at 09:53 PM.
I say off the line, meaning low range to mid range power you'll kill him. But remember 5.7s in stock form, duh, have only 3 gears. The RSX-S has 6! Hes gonna sooner or later pass you, in the high range... sux how today gears almost have more of a say than power being produced.
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LOL, what do u think they are racing to 150MPH?! The auto has OD, but still. He's should win, especially to 80MPH, with the 2.77's I'll say IROC's car is a mid 14 sec. car.
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Originally posted by ChevyLuva3
What is our 0-60 times for 5.7ltrs?? I thought I heard it was like 7 seconds, slow I know, but that cant be can it?
What is our 0-60 times for 5.7ltrs?? I thought I heard it was like 7 seconds, slow I know, but that cant be can it?
Ive read many places a L98 is suppose to do 0-60 in like 6-6.5 secs.
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6.0-6.4 depending on gears. Some tests got faster times, but this is usually it. The 3.27's and 3.45's are usually never higher than 6.2. The 2.77's will probably be the 6.3 or 6.4. TQ.
treview1, you were the one claiming torque is all you need to race on another thread. now you are magazine racing. where did you get 7.5 seconds? because 7.5 is too high of a 0-60 for the type s. what magazine or website were you on? btw, there really is only one way to settle this. "Line up, and see..."
RSXTCY....lets get onew thing straight. I don't decide the winner by who has the most torque...thats obviously false. However, the people who are usually defending the imports only look at the peak horsepower. Yes, of course the japanese designed engines make more HP/C.I., no one is disputing that...but you also have to take torque into consideration. I think i read it in the back of a Motor Trend...i might have misread it or just simply forgot. I apologize for that. However, i do know for a fact that the RSX Type S is not quite as quick as its older counterpart, the Integra Type R. I read numerous articles in Honda Tuning about that. But i agree..we will have to wait and see...
the type s has 5 more hp then the integra type r, and 30 more the the gsr. it also has a 0-60 at well under 7 seconds tested by car and driver. i know, i know, its a mag time but still a good driver could do the same. as for you comment about the rsx type s being slower then the integra type r, you are a little off. the type s is faster in the 0-60 but i can't find a quarter mile time for an integra type r, so i will get back to you on that
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From what I just read ( I know
) The type s rsx is 2767 pounds. And the type r integra is 2639 pounds. And there is just a 5 hp difference between the two. Look on carpoint.com . I don't think that the type s is going to be THAT much faster if at all than a type r integra. Now I have two friends with type r's and they hate the rsx and say it's like taking a step down in performance. The only thing they say they like is the 6 speed. But from what my friends say, their type r's are faster. Is this true?
) The type s rsx is 2767 pounds. And the type r integra is 2639 pounds. And there is just a 5 hp difference between the two. Look on carpoint.com . I don't think that the type s is going to be THAT much faster if at all than a type r integra. Now I have two friends with type r's and they hate the rsx and say it's like taking a step down in performance. The only thing they say they like is the 6 speed. But from what my friends say, their type r's are faster. Is this true? Last edited by elevario; Mar 27, 2002 at 05:25 PM.
thats what im saying....rsxtcy...look all you want, but you will find that they are both around the same speed. I have seen (for real this time) in MT a test of 14.8 for the Type R...my friend has one that he hasn't gotten into the 14's yet
And no, the 5hp isnt going to make a huge difference.
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The RSX Type S may only have 5 more hp- but you are forgeting it's 0.2 larger and has more torque.
Plus the intelligent valve timing
Plus the intelligent valve timing
I would contest the talk about winning on the top end. after 100 or so, It is more of a hp to areodynamics instead of hp to weight. It will be close in the 1/4 especially with those 2.77's
lottaballs, are you taking into account that IVTEC kicks in at the top end? this would give us the advantage over the camaro in the top end and top speed. the 6 gears would help too. to treview, did i say that 5 hp would make much of a difference? you also gotta remember that these two cars are in two different classes. look what chevy did with a v6 and v8, then look what acura/honda did in a 4 cylinder. almost same performance. then look what happens when acura does make a car with v6. the nsx would smoke all of you.
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Too bad...
It's too bad you're in South Carolina rsxtcy.
Some muscle with that car....
Don't talk a bunch of wind.
I find your pitiful rantings uncalled for. Look at how much it costs for the vehicles too. An NSX is comparatively priced to what?
Invoice Price: $NL - $NL
Retail Price : $89,000 - $89,000
Est. Payment: $2,438 - $2,438/month*
We all are wealthy and can afford that?
It's a 2 seater and weighs 3153 pounds!
Cargo Volume (EPA/Mfr): NA/5.0
Fuel Capacity: 18.5
Tow Capacity (Std/Max): NR/NR
Seating (Std.): 2
Seating (Opt.): NA
EPA Class: 2SEATER
Pass. Vol. (EPA/Mfr): NA/48.9
Another thing:
Type: 3.2L V6
Displacement (cc/ci): 3179/194
Valves: 24
Horsepower: 290@7100
Torque: 224@5500
Fuel System: MPFI
Transmission: Manual OD
Fuel Economy
(City/Hwy): 17/24 mpg
I don't think I would pay that much when I can get 2 Corvettes for the price of ONE of those things! The NSX is more comparable to a Corvette than a 4-seater Camaro/Firebird.
I tell you what, buy an NSX and blow all of us away!
Keep your trap shut unless you want it to fall out from under you.
I think paying $89,000 for that is ridiculous! For that kind of money, I'd want something with real MUSCLE. Give me a break!
Some muscle with that car....
Don't talk a bunch of wind.
I find your pitiful rantings uncalled for. Look at how much it costs for the vehicles too. An NSX is comparatively priced to what?
Invoice Price: $NL - $NL
Retail Price : $89,000 - $89,000
Est. Payment: $2,438 - $2,438/month*
We all are wealthy and can afford that?
It's a 2 seater and weighs 3153 pounds!
Cargo Volume (EPA/Mfr): NA/5.0
Fuel Capacity: 18.5
Tow Capacity (Std/Max): NR/NR
Seating (Std.): 2
Seating (Opt.): NA
EPA Class: 2SEATER
Pass. Vol. (EPA/Mfr): NA/48.9
Another thing:
Type: 3.2L V6
Displacement (cc/ci): 3179/194
Valves: 24
Horsepower: 290@7100
Torque: 224@5500
Fuel System: MPFI
Transmission: Manual OD
Fuel Economy
(City/Hwy): 17/24 mpg
I don't think I would pay that much when I can get 2 Corvettes for the price of ONE of those things! The NSX is more comparable to a Corvette than a 4-seater Camaro/Firebird.
I tell you what, buy an NSX and blow all of us away!
Keep your trap shut unless you want it to fall out from under you.
I think paying $89,000 for that is ridiculous! For that kind of money, I'd want something with real MUSCLE. Give me a break!
Last edited by Snowdog 91 Formula; Mar 28, 2002 at 06:13 PM.
Has anyone ever heard of average hp and average tq, a.k.a. area under the curve? A 5.7 IROC will walk on an RSX or Type-R off the line, and at the top end. It's a little closer for us 305TPI guys, but not that close. I'm also sick of hearing that domestics can't handle. That's a pile of crap. IROCs pull .90g's stock. I'm not saying they're the performance end-all, but lets not get it twisted.
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Handling?? Thats 1 of our specialties!! Even won best handling car in the U.S. in 84 and beat out lots of cars every year, and still do. Yup, IROC-Z's are capable of .92g's completly stock. Getting more than 1g isn't difficult for our cars either. And guess what, Thirds take turns and get better g's than 4ths.
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Originally posted by rsxtcy
lottaballs, are you taking into account that IVTEC kicks in at the top end? this would give us the advantage over the camaro in the top end and top speed. the 6 gears would help too. to treview, did i say that 5 hp would make much of a difference? you also gotta remember that these two cars are in two different classes. look what chevy did with a v6 and v8, then look what acura/honda did in a 4 cylinder. almost same performance. then look what happens when acura does make a car with v6. the nsx would smoke all of you.
lottaballs, are you taking into account that IVTEC kicks in at the top end? this would give us the advantage over the camaro in the top end and top speed. the 6 gears would help too. to treview, did i say that 5 hp would make much of a difference? you also gotta remember that these two cars are in two different classes. look what chevy did with a v6 and v8, then look what acura/honda did in a 4 cylinder. almost same performance. then look what happens when acura does make a car with v6. the nsx would smoke all of you.
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pulling a g is not the best way to tell how good your car can turn though
do you sit at a race track and take long steady turns?
if you have a real quick one turn then another one right after that your g rating is not going to say how well you can handle both of them
do you sit at a race track and take long steady turns?
if you have a real quick one turn then another one right after that your g rating is not going to say how well you can handle both of them
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We have absoultly no problem with that stuff or any type of handling test.
The RSX Type-S
Type: 2.0L I4
Displacement (cc/ci): 1998/122
Valves: 16
Horsepower: 200@7400
Torque: 142@6000
Fuel System: MPFI
Transmission: Manual OD
Fuel Economy
(City/Hwy): 24/31 mpg
Steer Diameter (Curb): 38.1/38.1
Engine Locat./Drive: FR/FWD
Brakes (Fr/Rr): Disc/Disc
Steering: R&P
Suspension (Fr/Rr): Ind/Ind
Tires: 205/55R16
Curb Weight(MT/AT): 2767/NA
How much does this one cost? Let's see:
Invoice Price: $NL
Retail Price : $23,170
Est. Payment: $635/month*
No comparison! For that kind of money give me a 4th Gen Camaro LS-1.
Whimpy Whimpy Whimpy. The L98 would eat it for lunch.
BTW: Torque has everything to do with street, and how you keep your wheels to the pavement.
Displacement (cc/ci): 1998/122
Valves: 16
Horsepower: 200@7400
Torque: 142@6000
Fuel System: MPFI
Transmission: Manual OD
Fuel Economy
(City/Hwy): 24/31 mpg
Steer Diameter (Curb): 38.1/38.1
Engine Locat./Drive: FR/FWD
Brakes (Fr/Rr): Disc/Disc
Steering: R&P
Suspension (Fr/Rr): Ind/Ind
Tires: 205/55R16
Curb Weight(MT/AT): 2767/NA
How much does this one cost? Let's see:
Invoice Price: $NL
Retail Price : $23,170
Est. Payment: $635/month*
No comparison! For that kind of money give me a 4th Gen Camaro LS-1.
Whimpy Whimpy Whimpy. The L98 would eat it for lunch.
BTW: Torque has everything to do with street, and how you keep your wheels to the pavement.
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Yup.
They go crazy if 1 of those things breaks 14's. L98's are already way into 14's.
They go crazy if 1 of those things breaks 14's. L98's are already way into 14's. Last edited by IROCZTWENTYGR8; Mar 28, 2002 at 08:12 PM.
snowdog, you are a moron. i am in north carolina for starters. rantings uncalled for? as i recall this is a message board where anyone can post. if you don't like what i say, then simply don't read it. as for the nsx comparison, i was simply saying that comparing your v8 to our 4 cylinder would be the same. btw, you can get a 95 nsx for under 30k on the web. so i don't wanna hear about the retail on one. as for you being poor, i can't help that but i then again, i don't really care. so take you "witty" comments and go stick them somewhere. also i would like to see a camaro take an rsx in an autocross. you list all these categories about the cars that do not make a difference. oh i am gonna by a car because its engine location and curb weight.....
you are an idiot.
you are an idiot. LOL!
Okay call me an idiot.
Say whatever you like.
That RSX is just a little economy car with a sport package.
I suppose you are the type to flame around on every thread on thirdgen.org. I'm sick of it.
Take your little car and rejoice you have it.
Don't forget your other parts you need to "mod" your little economy sport coupe.
I don't know, but all I see is a little boy in need of a spanking.
I think a 72 Maverick with a Briggs and Stratton kit would be more of a challenge.
Stop talking and prove something instead. I'm sick of little boys who talk crap and know nothing about their own vehicle.
Yes, that's right. You are driving a little economy car. Let's see you go 145 MPH.
Get a life.
PS:
If you don't like what >I< have to say you need not respond either.
I'd love to see that car handle the mountains we're in. You'd be lucky, little one, to get that whimp of a car to 65 climbing with that monstrous torque.
Say whatever you like.
That RSX is just a little economy car with a sport package.
I suppose you are the type to flame around on every thread on thirdgen.org. I'm sick of it.
Take your little car and rejoice you have it.
Don't forget your other parts you need to "mod" your little economy sport coupe.
I don't know, but all I see is a little boy in need of a spanking.
I think a 72 Maverick with a Briggs and Stratton kit would be more of a challenge.
Stop talking and prove something instead. I'm sick of little boys who talk crap and know nothing about their own vehicle.
Yes, that's right. You are driving a little economy car. Let's see you go 145 MPH.
Get a life.
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If you don't like what >I< have to say you need not respond either.
I'd love to see that car handle the mountains we're in. You'd be lucky, little one, to get that whimp of a car to 65 climbing with that monstrous torque.
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your the idiot to blame for the pissing contest RSXTCY..why are on this forum anyway? No one here wants to hear you bash F-bodies, thats why we are here in the first place. And please, PLEASE dont ever use the NSX as an example car. It is the most overpriced car on the market today. Dont get me wrong, i like the Supras and RX7s that are no longer being produced...but 90K for a V6??? How about 90K for a car that is no comparison to an M3 or a Z06....what a piece of **** that car is...and ugly too. You have to be an idiot to compare a 3rd gen to Japans best sports car....wanna but heads...you got it. 90K here buys you a Viper. A NSX eating Viper.
Pissing contest!
BTW:
Who started this?
I have read your threads and all of them point to your little kid comments. What's wrong now? You called me an idiot!
We would all get along a lot better if you thought about what you were going to say before you say it.
YES we are ALL tired of your CRAP RSXTSY.
Who started this?
I have read your threads and all of them point to your little kid comments. What's wrong now? You called me an idiot!
We would all get along a lot better if you thought about what you were going to say before you say it.
YES we are ALL tired of your CRAP RSXTSY.
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once again a useless post. 90k for an nsx? try again there buddy.... as for bashing third gen's, i am not bashing the car, only the idiot driver who thinks to highly of his car. btw once again, i am on here because my friend is on here. any other stupid questions? now please lock this thread moderator
yes, i am bashing myself you moron. honestly, can you not think up anything better to say. at least go back to 4th grade and learn SOMETHING... we were saying better comebacks at that time then you are now
and yes that may be your opinion, but are you going anywhere in life? do i care what you think? do you even know me? flame all you want, but it won't change the fact that you are ignorant, domestics are not up to date with the times, and that imports are taking over. you can call me names, flame on my car, i don't really care. btw, my "adult" response obviously caught your attention, seeing how you replyed to it




