TPI Tuned Port Injection discussion and questions. LB9 and L98 tech, porting, tuning, and bolt-on aftermarket products.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Air Flow grams/sec for 383??

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 15, 2007 | 07:06 PM
  #1  
vetteboy86's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 155
Likes: 0
Air Flow grams/sec for 383??

What should the air flow be for a 350 and a 383? I assume that the 383 should be more correct? If anyone has some numbers I would greatly apprecieate it. The motor I have is a mild 383.
Reply
Old May 15, 2007 | 07:39 PM
  #2  
doc's Avatar
doc
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 2,149
Likes: 4
From: Mims, Florida
Car: '87 IROCZ
Engine: 395 ZZ4
Transmission: ProBuilt 700R4
Axle/Gears: 9 bolt 3.70s
Re: Air Flow grams/sec for 383??

What are you specifically talking about? At idle, at 6,000RPM WOT???

I would think that the airflow would be in a ratio of the cubic inches, in other words, the 383 should flow 9.4% more air at each measured RPM.
Reply
Old May 15, 2007 | 08:02 PM
  #3  
vetteboy86's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 155
Likes: 0
Re: Air Flow grams/sec for 383??

Sorry I didn't specify which RPM range I was refering too. However your answer somewhat confirms my thinking. I believe the air flow into my engine or that measured by the maf is somewhat low. What would a stock 350 TPI flow across the RPM range?
Reply
Old May 15, 2007 | 09:03 PM
  #4  
doc's Avatar
doc
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 2,149
Likes: 4
From: Mims, Florida
Car: '87 IROCZ
Engine: 395 ZZ4
Transmission: ProBuilt 700R4
Axle/Gears: 9 bolt 3.70s
Re: Air Flow grams/sec for 383??

If you can look at the MAF tables for a MAF car, then you will find six tables showing flow in gms/sec vs voltage, but not vs RPM. Some one would have to run a scanner to data log air flow VS engine RPM. My scanner will not data log, I only get a snap shoot in time.
Reply
Old May 15, 2007 | 09:20 PM
  #5  
vetteboy86's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 155
Likes: 0
Re: Air Flow grams/sec for 383??

The software I am using to log the car shows me air flow in grams/sec and I believe it to be low. At 5500 RPM's the maf is only reading 207 grams/sec. However in the tables in tuner pro I see a maximum of 255 grams/sec. So I figure that the car is running terrible up top because the air flow isn't where it is supposed to be. If i knew for sure, I would change the tables, but my gut is telling me that the maf just isn't right. I have descreened it since this last scan, but I still wonder.
Reply
Old May 15, 2007 | 09:45 PM
  #6  
grumpyvette's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 564
Likes: 0
From: loxahatchee fla
Re: Air Flow grams/sec for 383??

are you asking what CFM your engines THROTTLE BODY or CARB requires?

or are you asking how many cfm at a certain valve lift a cylinder head port must flow to reach a set hp number?

perhaps the fuel injecters flow rate?

could you get into ALOT more detail about what your trying to find out???

http://www.rbracing-rsr.com/runnertorquecalc.html

http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/te...ench_database/

http://www.rbracing-rsr.com/fuelinjectors.htm

http://www.bgsoflex.com/intakeln.html

http://www.engr.colostate.edu/~allan...a/effarea.html

http://users.erols.com/srweiss/calchpaf.htm

http://users.erols.com/srweiss/calcpchg.htm

Index = (.300 * 4) + (.400 * 2) + (.500 / 7)
Flow Index = (flow @ * 4) + (flow@ * 2) +( flow@ / 7)
Potential HP based on Airflow (Hot Rod, Jun '99, p74):
Airflow at 28" of water x 0.257 x number of cylinders = potential HP
or required airflow based on HP:
HP / 0.257 / cylinders = required airflow (see below)

"Flow Index" refers to a formula Jody helped devise to compare driveability between the different cylinder heads. The formula is:
(cfm at .300 lift x 4) + (cfm at .400 lift x 2) + cfm at .500 lift


p88) Determining peak HP rpm based on peak head flow numbers. These numbers are based on flow measured at a 28" depression.
The formula is: (flow in cfm / 1.68 * 2000) / (Displacement ci / number of cylinders) = rpm.
(flow in cfm / 1.68 * 2000) / (350 ci / 8 cylinders) = rpm
(flow in cfm / 1.68 * 2000) / (43.75) = rpm


HP (engine)
Airflow (per intake port)

300hp
146 cfm

350 hp
170 cfm

400 hp
195 cfm

450 hp
219 cfm
Reply
Old May 16, 2007 | 02:25 PM
  #7  
vetteboy86's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 155
Likes: 0
Re: Air Flow grams/sec for 383??

Lots of info there, that I am sure is useful. However now I am trying to figure out if I am outflowing the MAF sensor. My readings are low, which makes me think that it has reached its max and isn't functioning correct. Or perhaps something else is wrong.

Thanks
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
eightsixseven
Tech / General Engine
2
Dec 16, 2024 01:50 PM
chazman
Tech / General Engine
8
Aug 28, 2018 03:25 PM
Keith5
DFI and ECM
2
Aug 27, 2015 04:37 PM
chazman
TPI
0
Aug 22, 2015 02:01 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:37 AM.