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Old Jan 16, 2001 | 08:06 PM
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I would like to get a group purchase started on the new Accel injectors. I
have already talked with an Accel dealer about this. If you are not familar
with these injectors, here are some details:
Sizes available include
14lb/hr
15lb/hr
17lb/hr
19lb/hr
21lb/hr
23lb/hr
24lb/hr
and
26lb/hr
30lb/hr
32lb/hr
36lb/hr
40lb/hr
48lb/hr

14lb/hr through 24lb/hr will all be available for the same price. 26lb/hr
through 48lb/hr will be at varying prices.

The injectors themselves are black bodied with yellow tops and each one is
laser etched with the size ratings.

We figure if we get 10-20 people involved we could be looking at a price of
around $210 plus shipping.

Any questions email or post.

Thanks
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Old Jan 16, 2001 | 08:22 PM
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What will they want (approx) for the 26's and the 30's?
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Old Jan 16, 2001 | 08:57 PM
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At what pressure are the Accels rated at?
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Old Jan 16, 2001 | 09:22 PM
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Mike, 99% sure its the GM pressure. Probably 45psi.
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Old Jan 17, 2001 | 05:23 AM
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Will these fuel injectors fit a 1986 305 fuel rail and intake manifold?
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Old Jan 17, 2001 | 09:07 AM
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I'm in for a set of 23# or 24#. I asked Rich for a size suggestion yesterday.
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Old Jan 17, 2001 | 10:14 AM
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yes Matt_KY they will fit your fuel rail, what size are you looking for?i am robably going to throw down for the GP, so that means i have a practically new set of SVO 19lb/hr i could sell ya for a fraction of what they cost new.

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(dont worry i am switching to the 89 ECM)
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Old Jan 17, 2001 | 12:39 PM
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I am definetly interested in (8) 30#'ers.

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Old Jan 17, 2001 | 12:49 PM
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There is a thread on the corvette forum about them. On page 2 in the aftermarket-parts and engine mods. They guys at summit say they are rated at 39psi. They sound like the same injectors as the SVOs without the ford part numbers.

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Old Jan 17, 2001 | 02:02 PM
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I found my catalog. Guess what? Doesnt say what pressure they are rated at... Gee, thanks alot Accel...
Makes me think that they are rated at 39
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Old Jan 17, 2001 | 06:48 PM
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Okay, here is some more info on the injectors. The injectors are rated at 3 bar or 43.5lbs. The impedence of these units are 14.4 on the 14-36lb/hr and 12.0 on the 40 and 48lb/hr.
Madmax...the 26 and 30lb/hr will be approx $230
Looks like there is gonna be enough people interested in this GP to make it happen. Once we officially kick this thing off, I would ask that those people who are serious to send me an email with the size desired and quantity. That way I can track you and get an official head count. We are looking at running this GP for approximately 3 weeks.
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Old Jan 18, 2001 | 12:08 PM
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On 11-8-00 I ordered the 24lb. inj pn ACC-150824 from Summit. They have been on back order since, I talked to cust service on 01-17-01 and was told that they are looking at a 3-1-01 release date from Accel. I e-mailed Accel on 1-17 and was told " the time you have mentioned seems about right for this new product"
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Old Jan 18, 2001 | 12:09 PM
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On 11-8-00 I ordered the 24lb. inj pn ACC-150824 from Summit. They have been on back order since, I talked to cust service on 01-17-01 and was told that they are looking at a 3-1-01 release date from Accel. I e-mailed Accel on 1-17 and was told " the time you have mentioned seems about right for this new product"
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Old Jan 18, 2001 | 12:09 PM
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On 11-8-00 I ordered the 24lb. inj pn ACC-150824 from Summit. They have been on back order since, I talked to cust service on 01-17-01 and was told that they are looking at a 3-1-01 release date from Accel. I e-mailed Accel on 1-17 and was told " the time you have mentioned seems about right for this new product"
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Old Jan 18, 2001 | 01:24 PM
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I am in for 8 of the 24's.
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Old Jan 18, 2001 | 01:25 PM
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I am in for the 23lb/hr ones. $210 isn't that great of a savings though since Summit has them advertised for $230. Oh well... email at nelsleo@charlie.cns.iit.edu with more info since I never been in a group purchase before.

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Old Jan 18, 2001 | 02:51 PM
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Okay, so I probably should know this, but it seems that they are rated the same as the GM injectors then?

Second question, will the 14.4ohms impedence cause any issues with the QD's in the stock ECM's?



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Old Jan 23, 2001 | 12:15 PM
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I'm up for some 26 lb injectors.
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Old Jan 23, 2001 | 06:37 PM
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Okay, the GP is a go!! Anybody who is serious about getting in on this needs to send me an email with the size and number of sets desired. You will not be considered for the GP unless I get an email.....this avoids the possiblity of someone getting skipped because I missed their post here. To date, I have only recieved 1 email with a confirmation. My dealer spoke with Accel and they will have injectors in a week or two. We are looking at running the GP for 3 weeks starting today. That means by February 13th we will be placing one large order to Accel.
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Old Jan 23, 2001 | 08:54 PM
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I'm in..(and will email confirmation) once I find out if there are any issues with the stock ECM QD's controlling the injectors.

Can anyone confirm that the lower impedance of the Accels won't pull too much current across the QD's?

Maybe a call to Mr. Gasket would help?

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Old Jan 26, 2001 | 05:55 PM
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Sounds like a great deal. I'm planning on re-sealing the motor soon and porting the intake. Can someone please advise me on what size injectors to run. All that I want to my mods are TES and a bit bigger cam. Not interested in changing heads!

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Old Jan 26, 2001 | 07:20 PM
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Originally posted by graebz28:
Can someone please advise me on what size injectors to run.
With the slight mods you're going with you could actually stay with the stock 19 lb/hr injectors and just get an adjustable fuel pressure regulator and up the PSI! but if you're really looking to go with bigger injectors, I think the 21 or 23 lb/hr injectors will be plenty for you!


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Current project: Keeping my car running until I get the money for the above mentioned project! :-)
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Old Jan 27, 2001 | 02:31 PM
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I want to get a set of 19/lb injectors. We don't have to pay until Feb. 13th right? They will fit a stock fuel rail, rihgt?


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ps mods are the basics, K's(who doesn't), MSD 6A, Super coil, ed wright fast chip, and after I get the injectors I will port my plenum and put on a cat-back


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nevermind, i am getting screamindeamin's injectors instead.


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Old Jan 27, 2001 | 03:26 PM
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Hey all......I have had some emails that are asking about payment arrangements. We will be doing either C.O.D. or payment via paypal.
My Accel dealer has already ordered some sets, so they DO exist for all you skeptics out there
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Old Feb 1, 2001 | 04:23 PM
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Old Feb 2, 2001 | 08:21 PM
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Does anyone know if these are pintle or ball/disc type injectors?

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Old Feb 5, 2001 | 07:02 PM
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Old Feb 7, 2001 | 08:39 PM
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Okay, here are the finalized prices for those of you who are still interested in getting in on the GP.
For the 19 through 24lb/hr the price will be $210.
For the 26lb/hr the price will be $225.
For the 30lb/hr the price will be $230.
For the 36lb/hr the price will be $330.
For the 40lb/hr the price will be $375.
For the 48lb/hr the price will be $420

You will need to add $7.00 for shipping unless you want them COD which will be $5.00 extra. We want to get these ordered ASAP so email me with your desired size, quantity, payment method (COD/Paypal) name and shipping address.

Thanks
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Old Feb 7, 2001 | 09:56 PM
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I'm in for a set of 30lb. Whats the contact email? Thanks, Jay
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Old Feb 8, 2001 | 10:44 AM
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Old Feb 16, 2001 | 07:04 PM
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A word of warning on the Accel injectors, the fuel rail retainer clip groove is not cut the whole way around like the factory injectors:

http://members.fbody.com/kevinc/injectors/Mvc-006f.jpg

I tried with one of my stock clips, doesn't seem to work. Will need to cut the rest of the groove w/ a Dremel or something.

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Old Feb 16, 2001 | 09:07 PM
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To those of you that are installing the new Accel injectors, you don't need to modify the grooves in the injectors. Simply use the upper groove that has full circumference. If you notice when you use the upper groove and install the injector in the fuel rail,the bottom o-ring will be in perfect alignment with the original injectors bottom o-ring.
If you attempt to modify the injector and use the lower groove for the retainer clip, the bottom o-ring will be raised too high and will not make a good seal in the intake manifold when the fuel rail is bolted down.
If you have any questions, feel free to email me and I will explain further.
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Old Feb 17, 2001 | 10:13 AM
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Shadow- using the top groove for the retainer clip will locate the o-ring much shallower in the fuel rail than stock or the 2nd Accel groove. Take a look at the picture I posted earlier. Imagine sliding the Accel injector down until it's top groove is aligned w/ the stock injector's groove.

http://members.fbody.com/kevinc/injectors/Mvc-006f.jpg

You'll be putting the o-ring almost 3mm shallower into the fuel rail...the side with gasoline @ 50psi in it. No way I'm doing that. Yes, the bottom o-ring will be ~1mm shallower in the intake boss...but it's vacuum on that side.

Make your own call on this one.

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