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very sad story
this morning on my way to work i was driving down te road in my 92 z28 and a guy in a s-10 came on to my side of the road and hit me head on at 65 mph...i jst got out of the hospital with a broken arm, concusion and 2 broken ribs and a broken nose from the airbag...but none of that hurt as bad as looking at my car...everything is gone from the nose to my radio...needless to say it is totaled....but the worst thing about it is that the drunk guy in the s-10 was an illegan mexican witout a drivers liscence or insurance...so i got the big screw...but im gonna et me another 3rd gen so ill be backk on the road in kno time....but it still sux....i LOVED that car...
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im sorry to hear that and i hope you make a speedy recovery.
I hate to ask, but do you have any pics of the car?
I hate to ask, but do you have any pics of the car?
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F*k man. Glad to hear you made it outta that. I got hit head on 15 years ago with my first 3rd gen (a cherry lo mile 84 Z28 HO) by an ex herion addict high on methadone. I wish it would have been 10 years fast forwarded...I'd take my 23C Glock .40 cal....F'in illegals.
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damn!
Im still amazed at how well thirdgens take crashes. most newer cars would look like a crumpled up ball of tinfoil after an accident like that.
Looked like it was in nice shape too, and a vert at that
Im still amazed at how well thirdgens take crashes. most newer cars would look like a crumpled up ball of tinfoil after an accident like that.
Looked like it was in nice shape too, and a vert at that
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you going to strip it before you junk it? i know i would
and you know the mexican didnt even go to jail, they probably let him walk
and you know the mexican didnt even go to jail, they probably let him walk
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well i was thinking about using it as a parts car for wen i get another Z...but yea he was drunk and had no id...they took him to jail but had to let him out after 3 hours cuz the had no way to kno whu he was
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Ouch, atleast your alright tho. You'll buy another Z, and be back into it in no time I bet. 
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Glad you're alright buddy. I know that car's gonna be REAL hard to replace, but at least like your life, it won't be impossible.
Freakin criminal mexican invaders man. They now kill more Americans each and every year than were killed on 9/11.
Freakin criminal mexican invaders man. They now kill more Americans each and every year than were killed on 9/11.
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First and foremost: I am glad you came out "Ok"..... from the look of the car, that was some thump.
Is it just me, or did you pull the motor out already? I am thinkin' that would be a good trick with busted ribs. I am prolly just too tired.....
Is it just me, or did you pull the motor out already? I am thinkin' that would be a good trick with busted ribs. I am prolly just too tired.....
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Very sorry to see/ hear about that!!!! Most of all, at least you are here to live on, the car can be replaced....Best of luck getting yourself back into good shape! Car accidents are a pain in the ??? in more ways than one. Hopefully the drivetrain is still in good shape, maybe the Z's heart can give life to another.....
Best of luck!!
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Best of luck!!
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man that sucks glad to hear your ok though, all I have to say is if that guy hit me I would have killed him, theres to many illegals driving in this country, and Im tired of it sorry bout the rant, but it angers me. I hope you can find another one, and parts of this one can live on in another one
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Good thing you are ok. Thats whats important.
I dont understand how they can let somebody go after something like that! Does that mean, if I stole a car, and didnt have any ID on me, I could get away with anything??
Did they find out who owned the truck? Maybe there is a connection. I bet if the mexican was hurt, they would have hospitalized him for free. But if I get hurt, I am screwed, because I cant afford medical insurance and my car insurance wont cover.
I dont understand how they can let somebody go after something like that! Does that mean, if I stole a car, and didnt have any ID on me, I could get away with anything??
Did they find out who owned the truck? Maybe there is a connection. I bet if the mexican was hurt, they would have hospitalized him for free. But if I get hurt, I am screwed, because I cant afford medical insurance and my car insurance wont cover.
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I don't have any exact numbers but I bet "legal americans" are responsible for the majority of drunk driving accidents. I don't understand what being illegal has to do with this. Drunks come in all races, whether they are legal citizens or not. Why couldn't everyone have said "Yeah I hate drunk drivers" I bet if the driver was black you would have said " yeah I hate *******." Or if the driver was white would you have said "I hate crackers". No you wouldn't. And the comment about the glock, thats really idiotic. I hate macho tough guys like that. Your not stupid enough to go to jail for life for killing someone. I gurantee if someone crashed in to you you would not shoot them. I hope this doens't start any "racial war" but its just something to think about.
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Mait, I can understand your reply. As far as my Glock comment it was meant as a joke and the things that go through your mind when someone crashes into you. I said "forward my accident 10 years later". I would have been in Vermont at that time where I did drive my car with my pistol in it. That was completely legal. No I wouldn't shoot anyone unless I was approached with lethal force or returning lethal force.
What I did do when I was in my accident is when the herion addict got outta his car I walked up to him and knocked his *ss flat out in the middle of the street. He came outta his car bumbling, talked jibberish about his fix and was clearly high as sh*t.
In hindsight, yes my pistol comment was off flavor and no, no sensible citizen is going to start shooting anything or anyone unless their being fired on.
The fact of him mentioning the person being an illegal I think may have just to show this person had no regard for our laws given the fact of being here illegally, driving while intoxicated and whatever else that person disregarded.
Good to see 92Z28 lived through this and hopefully can salvage needed things from the car and doesn't have to suffer in any amount because of this other persons negligence.
What I did do when I was in my accident is when the herion addict got outta his car I walked up to him and knocked his *ss flat out in the middle of the street. He came outta his car bumbling, talked jibberish about his fix and was clearly high as sh*t.
In hindsight, yes my pistol comment was off flavor and no, no sensible citizen is going to start shooting anything or anyone unless their being fired on.
The fact of him mentioning the person being an illegal I think may have just to show this person had no regard for our laws given the fact of being here illegally, driving while intoxicated and whatever else that person disregarded.
Good to see 92Z28 lived through this and hopefully can salvage needed things from the car and doesn't have to suffer in any amount because of this other persons negligence.
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looks as though he hit you on the right side of the front of the car, how far into your lane did he go? so far that maybe you could have just went into his lane and avoided him?
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sorry to hear. Just a thought but maybe when you get another 3rd gen...get a beater for DD? I'd never daily drive my car--like you found out--never know whats going to happen
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I don't have any exact numbers but I bet "legal americans" are responsible for the majority of drunk driving accidents. I don't understand what being illegal has to do with this. Drunks come in all races, whether they are legal citizens or not. Why couldn't everyone have said "Yeah I hate drunk drivers" I bet if the driver was black you would have said " yeah I hate *******." Or if the driver was white would you have said "I hate crackers". No you wouldn't. And the comment about the glock, thats really idiotic. I hate macho tough guys like that. Your not stupid enough to go to jail for life for killing someone. I gurantee if someone crashed in to you you would not shoot them. I hope this doens't start any "racial war" but its just something to think about.
CRIMINAL MEXICAN INVADERS NOW KILL MORE AMERICANS EACH AND EVERY YEAR THAN WERE KILLED ON 9/11!!!!!!!!
Now granted, not all of the deaths are the result of drunken, non insured, non liscensed, mexican drivers. Some are just school children that have been mowed down with gun fire from MS13 and other illegal mexican gangs shooting at each other. If all these criminals had just been rounded up and deported, tens of thousands of innocent Americans would have been saved.
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Man I hate to hear things like this, I wrecked my baby a few weeks ago (hydroplaned on the freeway and hit the median) The most important thing is you are going to be ok... Hopefully you find another Z Vert
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I know if someone crashed into me like that, I wouldnt exactly be in my "right mind" to think about weather I wanted to shoot him or not.
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I agree find him and shoot him. 23,000 miles the car was worth 10000 at least and that ****ing retard will get away scotch free. I dont carry a gun but I might have to start. Thats ridiculous I love my car and I love my life. He killed your car and put your life in danger. and now he doesnt even have to pay a ticket. much less fix your car. He deserves to be dead. But maybe the will ship him back so he can jump the border again into welcome California arms. Tell the tax payers maybe they will fix it.....LOL....sux that you got injured....did he pay his hospital bill?.....did he pay yours?? didnt think so. this is the kinda crap that would **** me off beyond my own control broken arm or not I would find a way to injure him beyond repair.
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Maybe you missed what I said earlier.....
CRIMINAL MEXICAN INVADERS NOW KILL MORE AMERICANS EACH AND EVERY YEAR THAN WERE KILLED ON 9/11!!!!!!!!
Now granted, not all of the deaths are the result of drunken, non insured, non liscensed, mexican drivers. Some are just school children that have been mowed down with gun fire from MS13 and other illegal mexican gangs shooting at each other. If all these criminals had just been rounded up and deported, tens of thousands of innocent Americans would have been saved.
CRIMINAL MEXICAN INVADERS NOW KILL MORE AMERICANS EACH AND EVERY YEAR THAN WERE KILLED ON 9/11!!!!!!!!
Now granted, not all of the deaths are the result of drunken, non insured, non liscensed, mexican drivers. Some are just school children that have been mowed down with gun fire from MS13 and other illegal mexican gangs shooting at each other. If all these criminals had just been rounded up and deported, tens of thousands of innocent Americans would have been saved.
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I don't have any exact numbers but I bet "legal americans" are responsible for the majority of drunk driving accidents. I don't understand what being illegal has to do with this. Drunks come in all races, whether they are legal citizens or not. Why couldn't everyone have said "Yeah I hate drunk drivers" I bet if the driver was black you would have said " yeah I hate *******." Or if the driver was white would you have said "I hate crackers". No you wouldn't. And the comment about the glock, thats really idiotic. I hate macho tough guys like that. Your not stupid enough to go to jail for life for killing someone. I gurantee if someone crashed in to you you would not shoot them. I hope this doens't start any "racial war" but its just something to think about.
To the origional poster, glad you came out of it alive. Sorry to hear about your injuries and your car! Hopefully your insurance will give you what it was actually worth so you can replace it!
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Blatant disregard for the laws of this country from an illegal immigrant should be grounds for immediate deportation (if the fact that they entered illegally is not enough). If I could go to another country illegally and not be held accountable for breaking any of their laws I would do it too. People like this guy are riding the gravy train. And its costing good law abiding people who work hard for what they have out the rear for these people to exploit our country. As a country, we are the biggest push-overs in the world. 
BTW my grandfather entered this country LEGALLY in 1924 from Poland, learned to speak english, pays taxes, and served our country in WWII, Korea and Vietnam. Being a legal immigrant promotes a certain respect for this country that you will not gain from starting your first day here breaking the law. I don't care where you are from, embrace my country and its laws and you will have my upmost respect.
BTW my grandfather entered this country LEGALLY in 1924 from Poland, learned to speak english, pays taxes, and served our country in WWII, Korea and Vietnam. Being a legal immigrant promotes a certain respect for this country that you will not gain from starting your first day here breaking the law. I don't care where you are from, embrace my country and its laws and you will have my upmost respect. Last edited by DukeofHurl; Feb 15, 2008 at 08:33 PM.
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I don't have any exact numbers but I bet "legal americans" are responsible for the majority of drunk driving accidents. I don't understand what being illegal has to do with this. Drunks come in all races, whether they are legal citizens or not. Why couldn't everyone have said "Yeah I hate drunk drivers" I bet if the driver was black you would have said " yeah I hate *******." Or if the driver was white would you have said "I hate crackers". No you wouldn't. And the comment about the glock, thats really idiotic. I hate macho tough guys like that. Your not stupid enough to go to jail for life for killing someone. I gurantee if someone crashed in to you you would not shoot them. I hope this doens't start any "racial war" but its just something to think about.
Moderator you need to lock this and put some of these guys on probation. Or even better delete it.
Did we all forget at one point or another someone in our family was an immigrant too. Yes some were legal and illegal. SO GET OVER IT!!!.
Now as far as all these Mexicans they are doing jobs that no one else is willing to do and most of all not willing to do for the little pay they get. They come here and work there fukin asses off to send money back home to try to bring their wives and children here legally.
Before you start writting some bull **** on these boards do your research.
Dude I am sorry about your car the issue hear is that there are too many drunk drivers on the road and they need to do something about that. Now as far as being released for not have id. Sorry is does not happen that way any more. If he was indeed drunk his @$$ is locked up..
Sorry if you guys do not like what I wrote; but the truth hurts especially when you are an fukin bigot.
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who's s10 was it????? I belive they are the ones you go after. secondly if you want to be picky you find out what bar he was at or where he was drinking no ID? then how was he drinking? even if you look of age they need to id you. it really sux for bar tenders but they have gotten in trouble for much much less.
BTW I would not shoot the guy either but no matter who he was I would have made sure he was hurt too once I knew he was drunk. knock his *** out and say everything happened when he hit you
they would have a hard time in court saying you beat a drunk driver til he was knocked out.
BTW I would not shoot the guy either but no matter who he was I would have made sure he was hurt too once I knew he was drunk. knock his *** out and say everything happened when he hit you
they would have a hard time in court saying you beat a drunk driver til he was knocked out. 
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Don't feel bad, same thing happened to me and insurance don't cover crap on idiots who leave fake addresses...Not to mention, the cop yelled at me for blocking him because he was about to leave the scene. lol, Shock of being hit. What can I say?.. I was not about to let him leave... Then I hired a P.I. to pursue this person in court and I find out I'm dipping into his SSI funds.. LOL, just make me feel more crappier about the whole thing. ... I feel for you man... People suck...Some do anyway.
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Now that my rant is over...
Do you have collision insurance on your car? If you do make a claim then fight with them on the value. You could show them what these cars are selling for with the miles you had on it. If you have a Geico or Allstate or another top company they will bitch but with the right documentation you could get them to pay.
Either way good luck and the most important thing is you made it out to write about
Do you have collision insurance on your car? If you do make a claim then fight with them on the value. You could show them what these cars are selling for with the miles you had on it. If you have a Geico or Allstate or another top company they will bitch but with the right documentation you could get them to pay.
Either way good luck and the most important thing is you made it out to write about
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I've been on this end of an accident myself. I still have court papers, police reports if you want proof. An uninsured woman(legal american) pulled out in front of me while I was driving my motorcycle. I took her to court and she never paid one cent. Not even my court fees. My bike was totaled and I was stuck with hospital bills and lost deposits on flight school. I'll use your logic and start hating american woman. Whoever got screwed in the stealth ram intake deal, why don't you start hating americans all together.
And yeah MS13 is south american. But I bet if poeple on here saw a brazilian they would probably call them a wetback. Thats how ignorant some poeple are, they know nothing of culture. And don't forget about your forefathers and the genecide they commited just to take over this land and infest it with diseases, but I guess thats nothing compared to what hispanics have done....
Lock this thread...
And sorry if I forgot to mention it, but I am glad you made it out okay. The car is replaceable, I'm sure sometime in life you will be repayed some way.
And yeah MS13 is south american. But I bet if poeple on here saw a brazilian they would probably call them a wetback. Thats how ignorant some poeple are, they know nothing of culture. And don't forget about your forefathers and the genecide they commited just to take over this land and infest it with diseases, but I guess thats nothing compared to what hispanics have done....
Lock this thread...
And sorry if I forgot to mention it, but I am glad you made it out okay. The car is replaceable, I'm sure sometime in life you will be repayed some way.
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it should have nothing to do with race. all races have drunk drivers.this is exactly why you should carry uninsured and noninsured insurance, cost a little bit more , but well worth it.i am truely glad you werent killed,and i cant believe they let him go.in n.c. he would definitely be locked up and when he got out be deported.n.c. is harsh on drunk driving,and im glad they are.this forum isnt the place to bash anyone,if everyone put as much time into trying to get stronger laws put into place to punish the ones who continue to drink and drive ,we all would be a lot better off,so take this anger and e-mail your state politicians to pass these laws and do everyone some good.again im glad youre ok, and i hate you losing your car.later jimmy
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Re: very sad story
man very glad you are ok, seems like that car held up actually very well for such a bad collision...
Too bad that jerk doesn't have to pay for that Z ... i think he should have to pay for it and have some jail time... i cant stand stupid people... Is it possible to keep anything from that car to help build another? best of luck and sorry about the Z man -Matt
Too bad that jerk doesn't have to pay for that Z ... i think he should have to pay for it and have some jail time... i cant stand stupid people... Is it possible to keep anything from that car to help build another? best of luck and sorry about the Z man -Matt 
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Re: very sad story
To a speedy recovery....hold your head up as Americans do...time heals many wounds. I think Fences make good neighbors. I also think that poeple of all races that want to enter the U.S. should be asked one question under a polygragh. "If the U.S. went to war agianst your native county, which side would you fight for"?
Uninsured motorist insurance cost me $6 every 6 months, and I caught the hit and run driver of my wifes van (parked empty). If not for my insurance I would have got nothing to replace the van with.
Things must change as we can not afford to support the illegal's any longer.
They are sucking us dry, we must put up borders, and have repercutions.
I see part of the problem is they do not follow the laws we have, some think it's ok to let small boys drink beer when they want, to hit women and children, middle aged men bedding 13 year old girls, drive without insurance, ect..ect...makes me sick, BUT in no way will I lower my self to their level. Good thing happen to good people, smiles are contages, keep your head up high...your are not them!!!!!!!!!
Uninsured motorist insurance cost me $6 every 6 months, and I caught the hit and run driver of my wifes van (parked empty). If not for my insurance I would have got nothing to replace the van with.
Things must change as we can not afford to support the illegal's any longer.
They are sucking us dry, we must put up borders, and have repercutions.
I see part of the problem is they do not follow the laws we have, some think it's ok to let small boys drink beer when they want, to hit women and children, middle aged men bedding 13 year old girls, drive without insurance, ect..ect...makes me sick, BUT in no way will I lower my self to their level. Good thing happen to good people, smiles are contages, keep your head up high...your are not them!!!!!!!!!
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That is rough man. I betcha they deported his *** man. That is the absolute worst thing inthe world too, seeing an f body get rocked like that!!! gald to hear you are okay.
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Its appalling what happened to your car, no doubt about it.
What's more appalling is the ignorant, discriminatory comments made by those who live in comfort and can pass judgment on those less fortunate.
There is a stigma about third gen owners being "*******s", and to be honest I had never heard about it until I came onto the boards and saw it printed in a magazine. What you all are doing is perpetuating stereotypes that are old and dated.
Before you pass judgment on immigrants think about your OWN stereotype: those that drive Third Gens are "******* hicks"... Now think about that for a moment ... are you really? Then why are you perpetuating a stereotype when you live safe away with your big mouth in Ohio, Illinois, Indiana, Connecticut and other states where you have no idea what you are talking about?
This is an educational board, not a sounding board for your political agenda's.
Those of you who did not understand what the point of my post was, remember Abraham Lincoln's saying: "I do not think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday. Those who deny freedom to others, deserve it not for themselves; and under a just God, can not long retain it."
What's more appalling is the ignorant, discriminatory comments made by those who live in comfort and can pass judgment on those less fortunate.
There is a stigma about third gen owners being "*******s", and to be honest I had never heard about it until I came onto the boards and saw it printed in a magazine. What you all are doing is perpetuating stereotypes that are old and dated.
Before you pass judgment on immigrants think about your OWN stereotype: those that drive Third Gens are "******* hicks"... Now think about that for a moment ... are you really? Then why are you perpetuating a stereotype when you live safe away with your big mouth in Ohio, Illinois, Indiana, Connecticut and other states where you have no idea what you are talking about?
This is an educational board, not a sounding board for your political agenda's.
Those of you who did not understand what the point of my post was, remember Abraham Lincoln's saying: "I do not think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday. Those who deny freedom to others, deserve it not for themselves; and under a just God, can not long retain it."
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One word..."Illegal".....if they came into our country legally I'd be fine with them. Then atleast 92z28 would have a chance to recover something from the person at fault. This "illegal" alien came here unlawfully, commited a crime against one of our own legal citizens.
92, did your insurance total the car? I'm curious to find out there take on it. Any word on if there going to raise your rates?
92, did your insurance total the car? I'm curious to find out there take on it. Any word on if there going to raise your rates?
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Re: very sad story
to the comment of how he pulled the engine already, he didn't look closley and you can see the tpi setup, its just pushed very far back.
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My bad, maybe I should have said criminal MESTIZO invaders. Either way, same thing different name. The name is just a word referring to a where they happen to come from initially. They are in fact made up of the exact same genetic stock as Mexicans. In other words, they are mestizos.
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Re: very sad story
Damn that sucks so bad....hope you feel better soon so sorry to hear that happened. But i need to ask this question: how come i hit a curb and my gfx are ripped off and yours look fine? I feel like an a$$ but was wondering if you'd part with those front GFX?
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Now as far as all these Mexicans they are doing jobs that no one else is willing to do and most of all not willing to do for the little pay they get. They come here and work there fukin asses off to send money back home to try to bring their wives and children here legally.
"They come here and work there fukin asses off to send money back home to try to bring their wives and children here."
Indeed, they send their UNTAXED EARINGS STRAIGHT OUT OF THE COUNTRY!!!!!! They then bring over their 10,000 relatives who all do the same freakin thing, as well as leeching off of our medical system, effectively raising medical insurance rates for real American Families. All of this is IN ADDITION to what these invaders cost the tax payer through the justice system. Yes, some of the criminal invading, murderous child raping mestizos actually do serve time for violent crimes.
Clearly, YOU are the one that needs to look at the readily available facts, instead of parrotting the MSM's laughable lies...... I'm truely suprised that there still are a few Americans brain-washed, and brain-dead enough, to regurgitate what you just said.
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Laughing...... No genius, they're not south American. As stated earlier, they are CENTRAL AMERICAN mestizos........ But you're right, most European Americans know nothing about third world "culture".
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gmgod I just got home from a 12hr day. Paid my taxes and was able to miss all the hit and run uninsured motorist, from other countries. So far what you have said is what I'm thinking.......keep up the good work A+++ I'm laughing with tears in my eyes...but then reallity sets in...bummer..We need to do something. We should have already done something. It's not like this story is a one time thing. It happeneds all the time. If I were a betting man I'd bet one of us here reading this will experience a simular event 1st or 2nd hand in 90 days, ...sad to say.
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Uhh yeah, the keys words here being LEGAL and ILLEGAL!!! The Europeans that founded and built this once great Nation came here LEGALLY through Ellis Island...... The criminal invading third world mestizos on the other hand, well, they just slither in here illegally and leech off of tax paying Americans like freakin parasites.
LMMFAO!!!!!!!! These freakin invading criminals are ABSOLUTELY NOT "doing jobs that Americans are not willing to do". They are TAKING jobs that the American youth used to do, and doing them for much less. How you ask????? Easy, just look at your own words......
"They come here and work there fukin asses off to send money back home to try to bring their wives and children here."
Indeed, they send their UNTAXED EARINGS STRAIGHT OUT OF THE COUNTRY!!!!!! They then bring over their 10,000 relatives who all do the same freakin thing, as well as leeching off of our medical system, effectively raising medical insurance rates for real American Families. All of this is IN ADDITION to what these invaders cost the tax payer through the justice system. Yes, some of the criminal invading, murderous child raping mestizos actually do serve time for violent crimes.
Clearly, YOU are the one that needs to look at the readily available facts, instead of parrotting the MSM's laughable lies...... I'm truely suprised that there still are a few Americans brain-washed, and brain-dead enough, to regurgitate what you just said.
LMMFAO!!!!!!!! These freakin invading criminals are ABSOLUTELY NOT "doing jobs that Americans are not willing to do". They are TAKING jobs that the American youth used to do, and doing them for much less. How you ask????? Easy, just look at your own words......
"They come here and work there fukin asses off to send money back home to try to bring their wives and children here."
Indeed, they send their UNTAXED EARINGS STRAIGHT OUT OF THE COUNTRY!!!!!! They then bring over their 10,000 relatives who all do the same freakin thing, as well as leeching off of our medical system, effectively raising medical insurance rates for real American Families. All of this is IN ADDITION to what these invaders cost the tax payer through the justice system. Yes, some of the criminal invading, murderous child raping mestizos actually do serve time for violent crimes.
Clearly, YOU are the one that needs to look at the readily available facts, instead of parrotting the MSM's laughable lies...... I'm truely suprised that there still are a few Americans brain-washed, and brain-dead enough, to regurgitate what you just said.
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Re: very sad story
where did you get that information about the majority of illegal workers getting taxed? I'm honestly curious not trying to pick a fight.. most illegals I know of only work jobs that pay cash under the table.. other jobs require social security numbers.. how do they pay taxes without social security numbers?
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I live in Phoenix, AZ. Its crowded with ilegals here. For $50 you can get a fake Social Security Card along with a fake green card. The SSN is made up. It doesn't belong to anyone. I worked in a construction company before and 12 out of 15 people in my crew did that. The company doesn't check the ssn. They don't care. Workers get their W-2's and throw them out. Even though they still can get their tax return. They can file for a TIN(tax identification number) and file their taxes using that. But most ilegals are too scared to do that. I have been in that situation before and I know from experience. This is how it is here. I don't know about montana and other states where there are not even near as many ilegals as here.
Honestly what does any of this have to do with a third gen? What does it have to do with TPI? There is no section here for discussing current immigration laws or politics for that matter. I think we should all just stick to the topic.
Honestly what does any of this have to do with a third gen? What does it have to do with TPI? There is no section here for discussing current immigration laws or politics for that matter. I think we should all just stick to the topic.