Clutch problems after V6 to 350 swap.
Clutch problems after V6 to 350 swap.
I was hoping someone might be able to diagnose this problem before I start throwing more parts at it.
I started with an 88 V6 Camaro and put in a 350 4 bolt from an 82? Cube Van. I used a 85 Iroc as my parts car, and from that took the tranny and the clutch. There is a chance that the tranny from the Iroz was not stock. Once the car was all buttoned up and running, the clutch was not working properly. When pushed to the floor, the clutch would not go overcenter or catch properly. It seems like there just needs to be more pivot on the fork. I could not get it into gear unless that car was turned off. So... I put in a new clutch. Same problem. I fabricated a push rod that was an inch longer. Same problem.
So I am thougt that the slave cylinder (from my 88 V6) didn't have enough throw. I am not sure whether the slave from the v6 and from a v8 would be different. I read the forums a little and posted and I was told that there isnt a difference between the V6 and V8 hydraulics, and that they are not my problem.
The other problem that was suggested to me was that the throwout bearing was installed on the fork improperly. This is not the case, I double checked several times, and it is installed properly.
I then thought that because there is a chance that the tranny is not stock, that the new clutch i bought for it is the wrong one. I called a tranny shop and explained my case. He led me to the conclusion that if everything fit together, and there was no stress or tension, then its the right clutch for the tranny. This is the case with my car, so apparently that was not the problem.
I was under the impression that the slave from 84-89? Camaros are self bleeding. All you have to do is pump the clutch repeatedly to get the air out of the system.
What about the height of the throwout bearing? Are there different heights? If it was about an inch wider there would be more pivot on the fork. This would probably solve my problem, would it not? Do Camaros have different size throwout bearings.
I am sorry for this long post, but I am desperate. I completed this swap well over a month ago and have barely been able to drive my beast
If anyone has ANY suggestions, I will try anything.
Thanks, Mike
I started with an 88 V6 Camaro and put in a 350 4 bolt from an 82? Cube Van. I used a 85 Iroc as my parts car, and from that took the tranny and the clutch. There is a chance that the tranny from the Iroz was not stock. Once the car was all buttoned up and running, the clutch was not working properly. When pushed to the floor, the clutch would not go overcenter or catch properly. It seems like there just needs to be more pivot on the fork. I could not get it into gear unless that car was turned off. So... I put in a new clutch. Same problem. I fabricated a push rod that was an inch longer. Same problem.
So I am thougt that the slave cylinder (from my 88 V6) didn't have enough throw. I am not sure whether the slave from the v6 and from a v8 would be different. I read the forums a little and posted and I was told that there isnt a difference between the V6 and V8 hydraulics, and that they are not my problem.
The other problem that was suggested to me was that the throwout bearing was installed on the fork improperly. This is not the case, I double checked several times, and it is installed properly.
I then thought that because there is a chance that the tranny is not stock, that the new clutch i bought for it is the wrong one. I called a tranny shop and explained my case. He led me to the conclusion that if everything fit together, and there was no stress or tension, then its the right clutch for the tranny. This is the case with my car, so apparently that was not the problem.
I was under the impression that the slave from 84-89? Camaros are self bleeding. All you have to do is pump the clutch repeatedly to get the air out of the system.
What about the height of the throwout bearing? Are there different heights? If it was about an inch wider there would be more pivot on the fork. This would probably solve my problem, would it not? Do Camaros have different size throwout bearings.
I am sorry for this long post, but I am desperate. I completed this swap well over a month ago and have barely been able to drive my beast
If anyone has ANY suggestions, I will try anything. Thanks, Mike
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Originally Posted by WTF H4X
I was under the impression that the slave from 84-89? Camaros are self bleeding. All you have to do is pump the clutch repeatedly to get the air out of the system.
Thanks, Mike
Thanks, Mike
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When you put the MC in, did you include the 2 brackets that go from the pedal pivot shaft, down to the MC hardware?
How far does the slave cyl push rod move when the pedal is pushed?
What kind of condition is the pilot in the end of the crank in?
How far does the slave cyl push rod move when the pedal is pushed?
What kind of condition is the pilot in the end of the crank in?
The MC was stock from the V6, so I did not install it. The slave engages all the way, but it is still not enought throw to move the fork enough. The pilot is in good condition. I am currently in the process of replacing the MC and Slave, becuase I couldnt think of anything else.
Thanks your reponses.
Thanks your reponses.
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How far does the slave cyl push rod move when the pedal is pushed?
Should be around 5/8". If it is, then the hydraulics are working right.
Are the 2 brackets there?
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