torque converter selection help
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Car: 92 RS, 05 GTO (sold), 10 TL AWD
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torque converter selection help
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I am curious to get opinions on the Pro-built 10.5" Vigilante TC. My current issue is the following. A few years back I had a speed shop do a drivetrain swap in my car. The engine is a 383, HSR (non-vortec), trick flow heads, cam is 520 intake 532 exhaust with a 112 centerline 224 intake duration and 235 exhaust duration, Hooker LT 1.75" headers, and 2.5" true dual setup all the way back. This the point where I lost control of the project unfortunately. They said they would build a 700-r4 for me that would handle that motor and pick a TC that would work well with that combination.........it's all wrong.
The intent of this car is a street car. 99% of its life will be spent cruising around, running up and down back country roads. It is not, I repeat NOT intended to be a drag car. The TC that was put in this thing doesn't seem intended for street use. The stall speed appears to be 3000 RPM or more. Just to get this thing to roll forward on a level street you have to run it up well into the 2K RPM range and at that point the throttle is so far open the trans shifts at near full line pressure so your barely rolling 20MPH and it shifts so hard you get your neck snapped. I understand that for best 1/4 mile times this TC might be appropriate but for a street car this just doesn't work for me.
I want to put in a more streetable TC so that I can get the car rolling from a stop light without having to give it more than half throttle. That being said I want to use a quality piece so the price of the Vigilante doesn't scare me, I just want to make sure I will be happy with the drivabilty.
I like the fact the 10.5" unit is more efficient then a stock 12" (reduced weight) but it looks like 2,200 stall is lowest stall speed I can get. Will this stall speed be low enough to give me the drivability I want? My motor combo is a bit more agressive than that of what you get in a new 5th gen Camaro but power is probably similar. I imagine factory those cars are running somewhere between 1700-2000 stall TC, I believe that is where my '05 GTO was. Should I look for a lower stall? If so who offers a quality lower stall TC?
Thanks to those that read thru and can offer some info
I am curious to get opinions on the Pro-built 10.5" Vigilante TC. My current issue is the following. A few years back I had a speed shop do a drivetrain swap in my car. The engine is a 383, HSR (non-vortec), trick flow heads, cam is 520 intake 532 exhaust with a 112 centerline 224 intake duration and 235 exhaust duration, Hooker LT 1.75" headers, and 2.5" true dual setup all the way back. This the point where I lost control of the project unfortunately. They said they would build a 700-r4 for me that would handle that motor and pick a TC that would work well with that combination.........it's all wrong.
The intent of this car is a street car. 99% of its life will be spent cruising around, running up and down back country roads. It is not, I repeat NOT intended to be a drag car. The TC that was put in this thing doesn't seem intended for street use. The stall speed appears to be 3000 RPM or more. Just to get this thing to roll forward on a level street you have to run it up well into the 2K RPM range and at that point the throttle is so far open the trans shifts at near full line pressure so your barely rolling 20MPH and it shifts so hard you get your neck snapped. I understand that for best 1/4 mile times this TC might be appropriate but for a street car this just doesn't work for me.
I want to put in a more streetable TC so that I can get the car rolling from a stop light without having to give it more than half throttle. That being said I want to use a quality piece so the price of the Vigilante doesn't scare me, I just want to make sure I will be happy with the drivabilty.
I like the fact the 10.5" unit is more efficient then a stock 12" (reduced weight) but it looks like 2,200 stall is lowest stall speed I can get. Will this stall speed be low enough to give me the drivability I want? My motor combo is a bit more agressive than that of what you get in a new 5th gen Camaro but power is probably similar. I imagine factory those cars are running somewhere between 1700-2000 stall TC, I believe that is where my '05 GTO was. Should I look for a lower stall? If so who offers a quality lower stall TC?
Thanks to those that read thru and can offer some info
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Re: torque converter selection help
it will be fine. When driving the car normal it'll feel pretty normal. the stall really comes in when your driving the car hard. I love my vigilante and I am sure you will too.
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