I came across this part number in Jegs catalog (no equivalent found in Summit): 520-16767

Comes up as: Y-PIPE FOR 2460 ONLY $176.99

Is this Y-pipe for the Hooker 2460's? EVERY single post I've read about the 2460's says that there is no y-pipe available for it, only for the 2055's which I do not want because they have the AIR tubes. If so, has anyone purchased or tried it? It had better be good, at least comparable to the almight 2055 y-pipe everyone raves about. I need some feedback before I even think about purchasing another set of headers from anyone. Last time I ordered a new set of the Hedman 68470's and sent them back 4 times before they kept them because my 'matching' y-pipe won't fit their new ball type collector design. Doh. Anyhow, I need a set of good headers and y-pipe and just wondered if this was a new addition to Hooker's lineup. I couldn't find any info on this part number anywhere, and I haven't called Jegs or Hooker yet. Gotta get to work.

So, anyone?

 

If that really is a y-pipe for the 2460 then I'm buying it! My half a## y pipe that was made for me has got to go! I hope someone can confirm this soon.

 

Ya I know, what I posted earlier is all the information that is given about it. I can call customer service (think I will here in a bit) but that still won't tell me what it looks like/how it will flow. Anyone anyone anyone...

(I wonder what the reason for not having a matching y-pipe for these headers is...seems like it would be well worth it to sell one.)

 

Try E-mailing Hooker.

They would probably know.

 

I looked into buying that y-pipe. According to hooker it is a 2 1/4 inch piping and will fit the stock cat. i did not purchase it because i didnt want to have the 3" collectors reduced down to 2 1/4" piping. Summit sell the y-pipe also.

Shaun Spin

http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...OK%2D16767HKR+

 

Well, I just got off the phone with a Hooker rep. He sent me this pic of the prototype, he didn't have one of the finished product. So here it is. It is 2.5" from collector, 3" to cat, mandrel bent.
And yes, it is confirmed that this y-pipe is for the 2460s. Now I just need a pic of the 2055 pipe to compare it to...It looks alright to me. Bit on the expensive side IMO, but better route than custom in most cases I think.

edit: Doh, forgot to post the pic.

 

I notice that the pic does not look like 3" to the cat, but that is what I was told. Maybe I'll call again to get a 'second opinion'. Hm. I don't see why they'd use anything less.

 

I called back today and asked again if they could verify that it was 3" back to the cat and I was told it was 2.5". Why they would do that, I don't know. Kinda makes the $175 for it seem little more pricey. Now I'm really stuck. Go with a 2.5" pipe, or go another route...

 

That kinda sucks. I also don't like the idea of going from the 3in collector down to 2 1/4in pipes then into the single 2 1/2in to the cat. Well, beggars can't be choosers & at least they are coming out with a y pipe for the 2460s....finally! Maybe we can form a petition & request for bigger sizes since they aren't fully done with the product. What does everyone else think!

 

i think they built it that way so it wouldnt peform as good as their 2055s.

 

I think so too! Kinda sucks.

 

well this is awesome! i am about to buy a 1984 berli with a 305. now i can put my coated 2460's on that car with the dynomax catback i have in the shed!

 

It does suck. I think I'm not going to go with them. And I was told that the whole thing was constructed from 2 1/2" tubing but you may want to call them yourself and verify if they are from the collectors back or not.

I found out some new info on the Hedman 68470s, the ones where they changed the design to utilize a ball-type flange at the collectors and screwed everyone over that was using the "bolt-on" y-pipe they advertized for them. Well I called up Hedman today and I guess they now have a REAL matching (ball-flange type) y-pipe out for them, but I will post that in another thread since it is new news to me. I like my Hedmans a lot for what I paid for them, you can't beat the price. $125 for the headers, $99 for the y-pipe.

Later,
Ben

 

the bastards. i have the 2055's and love them. i'd love the 2460 even more since they have no emissions provisions. but the y-pipe design is great but is flawed. 2.5" out ot the cat? as metioned they did it to have the 2055's up on top.

 

I believe they did that to bolt up to the stock low output cat.

 

That Y-pipe looks like *** to me, should be for LO3's only.

I will say that it is probably better than most muffler shops would make. Seems like every shop I go to tries to use small pipe to conserve cash, conserving my HP at the same time.

One thing I learned about exhaust shops,

Tell them what you want.....

AND MAKE SURE they give you what you want, if you see them doing otherwise, stop them.

The first y-pipe I had made for my 2460's was a turd, but still an upgrade from stock.




You guys should just run true duals and get it over with. That's what I did with my 2460's....I have the best y-pipe ever now = NO Y-PIPE.

 

you do realize that 3" isnt going to make that big of a difference. yeah i admit i have the flowtechs and y pipe. but im 19 and ya know money doesnt grow on trees. but overall im very happy with it, even though the design is bad and all, it still gets the job done. although im not trying to sqeeze every last tenth outta the car. i saw something the other day that made me think. my friend has a 03 ****ang cobra and hes puttin 500 to the ground with stock 2.5 exhaust. thats with 18 psi boost though. i figured hey if 2.5 is capable of supporting 500 like that plus the boost it should be fine for my 220hp lb9. just a though. OH and for you people that get the flowtech y pipe, grind out the lip inside the passenger side piece. thats a real **** job lol but hey .

 

IIRC, 'Stangs have dual exhaust. So, 2 x 2.5" could very well support 500 HP.

Personally, I don't understand the market for 2460's. Until now, no y-pipe was available. This one is expensive, and restrictive. The 2055 y-pipe is a piece of art (some fitment problems some people have had in the last year seem to have been resolved - at least, haven't heard anymore about it). The 2460's have a thicker gage pipe, which means the interior flow area is less than the 2055's (remember, primary pipe sizes given are OD, not ID). 2460's aren't emissions legal (an issue for about 50% of us - if you don't need emissions-legal tubes, cut off the A.I.R. tubes and weld them shut - you'll still be ahead with the 2055's). If you're doing dual exhaust, which isn't easy with our unibody chassis and still maintain decent ground clearance, you might as well start with long tubes. Etc., etc., etc.

It also looks to me like this y-pipe goes directly to the cat back, rather than to the cat. So, if you need a cat (some places look for a cat, but not A.I.R.), you have to cut the pipe and insert one.

And, yes, 3" does make a significant difference over 2.5" when you are making modifications that improve HP over what the factory has given us.

 

I ordered this y-pipe (#16767) last month and got it in today! It is in fact mandrel bent and 2.5" I haven't had a chance to fit it under the car but it looks to be of very good construction. Comes with a hardware kit too if anyone is interested. I'll take a picture too if you like but it looks pretty much like the one above. Looking forward to it! (my custom one on there now has just about had it!...no ground clearance)

-Kyle

PS it comes in two pieces so you could just put a 3" adaptor on it immediatly after the two sides join into one; so i don't think flow will be affected too much

 

definitely post pics!

 

Please do take some pics of everything for us to see Also, just as confirmation again, the 2.5" you're talking about is the single pipe going to the cat right? Also, does that mean that the 2 pipes from the collector are 2.25" going into a single 2.5". Just wanna make sure Thanks!

Anthony

 

Okay, here's a couple pics I took this morning. Actually, ALL the pipe is 2.5'' not just after the two sides join.

 

Here's one from the other side. Let me know if you have any more questions.

 

No questions, just one comment:

Shame on Holley/Hooker for making it 2.5".

 

i have the 2460's on my 383. i'm looking to go back to a stock type exhaust set up. do ya'll think this y-pipe would restrict me too much if i put a 3" pipe where the y comes together?

 

Oh cool! I think the only part I don't like is where the 2 pipes merge into the single pipe. Unless it's just the way the pic was taken, it looks like the pipes are slightly indented in (on the inside,side by side) when merging to 1 pipe. Either way, I think I'm gonna get this y-pipe next year!

Hmmmmmmm I wonder if we could somehow con Summit into selling us only the y-pipe & not the extra single pipe that connects. That way i can fab a 3in pipe & not cry about paying the original price & dumping the original 2.5 single pipe lol!


But thanks for all the pics 87T-TopBird! Get some pics posted when you install it & if you can, some soundclips! Good luck!

 

That's the only way I would consider running it on a 305, let alone a 383. You're probably marginal with a 383 & 3" mandrel 90 degree in place of the 2.5".

 

the thing is no exhaust shop around where i live will build me a custom 3" y-pipe...and it would be much more expensive to build one myself, not adding in the fact that i don't have access to a welder.

 

Do you have electricity available?

Welder: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=55167

Mandrel bends: summitracing.com or jcwhitney.com

By the time you've spent the money to have someone else do the work for you, you could have purchased the necessary equipment and have it available next time.

 

Wow! Thanks for that link five7kid. I never knew there was mig welders out that didn't require gas lol! Shows how far behind the times I am

 

I agree that the 2.5" is a big downside. The rest of my exhaust is all 3" so what i plan to do is just put a 3" adaptor on to join to my exhaust. It's too bad 'cause i would've liked to have used that second piece.

-Kyle

PS once i put it on i'll post a couple more pics to show clearance and such

 

My headman Y pipe was the same way. I cut if off at the Y where it is 3" and took the piece down to the muffler shop had them bend one out of 3". Word of advice, if you go that route, hook up the Y pipe under the car and hold your new 3" piece where you want it. then just tack it in a couple places and take the whole thing out and weld it up. Would be hard to lay it out on the bench and get it all right the first time.

 

is there a way that one could put any bigger pipe on that after the y? cut a little further back in the y and put a 3.5" or 4" pipe? i have a set of those 2460's at the house, coated and all. i just can't seam to justify running those over my hedman lt's and true dual exhaust with an h-pipe.

 

yeah you could cut it and put whatever size you want on it, ive done this with many flowmasters, cut off the old inlet, and weld in a 3 inch.

 

Does anyone have pics of the 2460's? I just bought some 2055s and am contemplating taking them back and getting the 2460's because it will save me from hacking off the AIR tubes, and save me about $100. I will be modding the ypipe anyway, so the 3" on the 2055s doesn't make a difference to me anyway. It will also be a plus that it's not painted..... save me some sandblasting time on the ypipe.

 

here ya go, coated from ACS. that's a flowmaster y-pipe in the picture too. shoot, i'm not using them, i may be in the market to sell. then i won't keep thinking about putting them back on the car. my car went almost a second faster going from a single 2 1/2" to a dual 2 1/2". i keep thinking of running a single 4" or something, but that thing will weigh twice as much as my true duals do. anyway, here is the pic. if interested, make me an offer through pm's.

 

I take 'em in a heartbeat..... if they had the ball collector flanges. How are the new 2640 ball flanges different than the 2055s?

 

The 2460's don't use ball flanges. They have the traditional flate style collector with a three bolt flange. You use a gasket to seal.

 

OK, so the Hedmans are the ones that changed to the ball flanges. I guess I was just looking at 87t-topbirds pics of the ypipe and they looked like the ball flanges. Thanks.


Here, let me design my own headers..... 1 3/4" primaries (SLP), ball flange (SLP), 2.5" ypipe into 3" (Hooker 2055s), 3/8" header flange (SLP), stainless steel (SLP), no expensive installation kit (not SLP), *available with or without AIR tubes. Perfectamundo!

 

Looks like the hedman y-pipe.

You cut it in the center of the collector where its almost 4" accross.

You take a 3" pipe with a 90d bend on it, you expand one end and slide it over the Y. You weld it. You now have dual 2.5" pipes into a 3" mandrel bend.

Thats what I did with the hedman.

Some of you guys make such a big deal out of nothing. That looks like a perfect y-pipe. For folks just looking for a bolt on for a 305 or mild 350, its great as is. For folks like me with 500+hp motors, its like a 20 minute modification.

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=209924


-- Joe

 

Cut above picture, and weld new pipe like on my hedman:

 

That's exactly what I had in mind to do to it. If this y-pipe ever goes on sale & is a little cheaper I'm gonna pick it up & do that mod. Thanks for the visual. By the way, your hedman y-pipe looks awesome man!

 

any update on the 2460 y pipe yet? Has it been installed & if so how is it