F-Body Tim

ok... i have been reading and hearing all this buzz on this pro touring thing from car craft and hourse power tv... i was wondering if anyone has a third gen f-body set up this way with fat tires all the way around with tubing all the way around with all chassi work and suspention work you can do... i am lookin to do this to mine

any one have a car set up like this or any pics of one....

F-Body Tim

also i would like to know if anyone eles is in to this pro touring thing... any opinions on this subject...:lala:

IROCZTWENTYGR8

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Third Gens were pro-touring cars from the factory! Where do you think all these way back musclecar owners got the idea to set up their cars for not only straight line, but for handling and braking too? Hmmmm? Wide, approx. 50 series, Z/VR rated tires, disc brakes, suspension for turning, and bigger rims. Sounds like an IROC-Z to me! (and in the 80's, this stuff on an IROC or any other top Third was breakthrough)

deadbird

Like this one from Car Crafts RSE ?...

67 Camaro 88

I'm going that way with my 67, but it's a ways away. Money is a nice thing to have... and I'm fixing up my 88 Camaro (beater car) so it's comfy to drive and nice to cruise in (another paint job, sfc/stb, x4amp, sub, 97+ console, etc). It'll be nice to drive a 1st gen period.. muchless with a 6 speed and stiff suspension


-Bud

F-Body Tim

i didn't even look at my IROC that way... :werd:

but i am lookin for cars that can hold a ''g'' in the skidpad and +++66mph in the 600 ft slalom... just like in the new car craft...

THAT BLUT T?A ROCKS:rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

F-Body Tim

edit: THAT BLUE T/A ROCKS :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

Zepher

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I am setting mine up for road racing,
LT1 with T56 and a bunch of suspension mods.

Kandied91z

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mine was that way...ditched the rediculously wide wheels in the front and the hard to use coilovers and i'm much happier.

IROCZTWENTYGR8

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Hold g's? IROC-Z's had a best of .92 g while getting some other high .8's-low .9's through the years. They commonly had a slalom of about 63.3MPH. That's handling. Especially then! (and now too )

Kandied91z

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leave well enough alone and add a good suspension. meaning no lower then a pro-kit height and some other good essentials like proper spring/strut combos and these cars are outstanding. loose some of the heavy front end weight and they really move. the v6's sometimes are more fun to drive then the v8's.

F-Body Tim

really???? i didn't reallize how impresive the stock f-body was in holding the "g's".....

i'm lookin to do a 327c.i. sbc with a IRS from a vett (so i think that is one unit, tranny bolted to the rear end????) for weight balance, and fiberglass body parts wouldn't hurt... lol

Souseless

These cars all sound like autocross cars to me??? I am running my car in SCCA Solo 2 ESP class. 11" tires all around for next year. Koni Sport shocks, WS6 package, Torsen T2R differential, 1LE brakes, 2055 headers. More to come. Corner speed is where its at.

F-Body Tim

auto x, road course, and street driven third gen f-bodys is what i am talkin about

LaxStreetRacer

I have a CHP from sept. 99 that has an article in it called zig zag part 1 where they do a suspension build on a 91z. In part 1 all they do is refresh the steering components, but in part 2 (wich i cant find but is probably in the oct. 99 CHP if anyone keeps them) they test it out to see what it does stock, right around .92 or so like IROCZTWENTYGREAT said. They then build the suspension using all off the shelf hotchkis components and retest. With the fresh steering gear and all the Hotckis goodies it pulled 1.0g on the skidpad. I really wish i could find that article and get all the part numbers, It was sweet too cause they listed like 10 top of the line cars and the onlything that did better than the Z was a Viper at 1.02g. Anyways long story short, good tires and about 2000 bucks worth of parts depending on what your starting out with and youve got your 1g skidpad.

Spdfrk1990

I think you could do even better if you used spohn parts they used hotchkis. Hotchkis springs,sfc's,stb,lca's,panhard. I think they added a new steering box too and hopefully a wonderbar.

LaxStreetRacer

Yup. I think they might have done the sway bars too. Like he said you dont have to go with the hotchkis parts and you can probably save some cash by getting something else.

Has anyone ever used one of the polygraphite front end kits, if so do they work well?

Spdfrk1990

I think they kept the stock 36mm and went with a 1" hotchkis rear bar.

colonboy14

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How did that Trans Am get 30MPG on a TPI engine?!?

bnoon

A 6 speed with 3.08 rear gears, custom tuning, and a highway test drive.

Dewey316

When it comes to pro-touring. I think this car would take the cake.





Twin Turbo big block, the car was built to run at SilverState.

JR92z28

Wow!

More pics? Website?
That thing looks sweet!:hail:

Spdfrk1990

I agree dewey

Kandied91z

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always loved that picture..

colonboy14

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Until Monday, my 6 speed has 2.73 gears and I run 2000 RPM going 75-80 in FIFTH. I should run the same RPM's with the 3.73's in 6th.

How could you even get into 6th on the highway with the 3.08's- wouldn't the revs be too low?

F-Body Tim

do any of you have the front end rebuild kit from spohn... cuz i am tired of my stock front end with all the stock cracks and creeks comeing from it when i turn the wheels lock to lock...

92lt1

im not saying im doing this, but has anyone, on a tight budget just cut a little off the spring coil to lower the car? and if so how much did you cut off and did it affect the handeling?

GTA-SPD

Here is my brother's car. Pro-Touring or not, it is nasty. Nasty in a good way mind you. C4 IRS + LS1 + T-56 + adjustable coil-over front + 17X9 & 17X11 + STB + SFC's + Roll bar = VIPER KILLER. P.S. the bling wing is gone, and in its place is a 91 Z high rise.

F-Body Tim

lol.... i guess thats close enough to a pro touring f-body as anyone wants to get... that thing rocks :rockon:

Spdfrk1990

Wow that thing does look pretty damn neat. Lets see some more pix of it.

LaxStreetRacer

There are a couple different techniques to get the stock springs down, but they are deffinately half-assed ways to go about it. Just shell out the bux for a spring kit.

GTA-SPD

All I've got are up close, very specific shots of the suspension and engine installation issues. I'll get some more overall pics of it someday. Maybe at my Neice's birthday when he gets it out of the garage. It's a crap shoot if I catch it out of the car hole most of the time, since he doesn't drive it a whole lot and I live like 15 miles from him. I'll catch it when I can. I want to get some pics of his car and my car together, but it never seems like we have our cars in the same place at the same time.

J's T/A

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Pro-Touring for us is a bit strange as the whole concept was to take old iron and make it turn and burn.. we are already fairly good in the handling department and not quite old-iron yet..

I think just about any thirdgen that is set up for handling and horsepower would qualify.. and one that is set up simply for straight line performance would not..

as it sits my car has all the chassis and suspension mods, baer brakes, six speed, 275s all around and puts down 373rwhp/360rwtq.. I would classify that pro-touring..

Though the next mods are stroker or blower or both, and looking at getting black z06 wheels to go wider in the rear..

oh and the ram air hood is gone in favor of a cowl induction hood..

F-Body Tim

that thing look f*ckin sick dude... lol
good idea goin to the cowl, but keep it as low as posible like 2.5'' and the ZO6 wheels are gonna look so awesome!!! GOOD JOB

:rockon: :rockon:

ta84-355

This is a 2nd gen Pontiac but it sure is built with the Pro Touring in mind. The guy is really good, he has retrofritted a T56 to a Pontiac engine, rebuilt the suspension, Corvette brakes etc. He makes his own fiber glass and carbon fiber parts...

http://www.propontiac.com/

/Anders

F-Body Tim

i didn't even know it was posible to make that year birds look so sweet.... wow, dose any one eles think that pro touring cars are the sweetest lookin thing

F-Body Tim

well... don't quote me on this but me and this one dude are workin out a deal for a 383 c.i. stroker and a 5-speed... the motor revs to 7500 RPM all day long! the 5-speed will do for know but i have plans for a 6-speed C-5 IRS, well it's a great start cuz the car the 383 and 5-speed are in, has seen 12.4's all day

Mongoose

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You still got that hood?

bnoon

If you have enough low speed torque, the lower revs the better. I have a friend with a '92 Mustang with a 6 speed swap and he pulls about 1700 at 75MPH (I don't know his rear gears). He's pulled down 30+ MPG on highway and averages 22-23 MPG and he's supercharged!!!
:hail:

406TPI

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I have 3.42's and do almost 90mph at 2000rpm in 6th gear....averages out to about 24mpg on the last trip I took

FSTFBDY

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I actually have both Zig Zag articles on that Z. I rem soon as They both hit the stand I ordered a complete Hotckise setup like that but I did Koni Adj. in all 4 corners.

Hopefully with in the next few weeks I get my tubular K member in, diff shocks,struts , C5 breaks and the ford 9inch in.

Just finished my 8point Roll bar 2weeks ago. Next is paint then to finish off the motor. Single Turbo, Big Cubes...Hopefully It will make for a good PRO TOURNING cruiser.

IROCFAST

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The whole concept is a pretty awesome idea. Anything that can pull almost a 1G stock is pretty amazing. The ultimate would be 1G on the skid and 11's maybe even 10's in the quarter. It would be a somewhat difficult proposal because of suspension setups, but it would be killer.

"Single Turbo, Big Cubes"

that combination of words should be in a song...

'86Twins

I read in a magizine that there is some kind of challenge of some sort. Pull 1g on the skidpad, 1g accelerating, and 1g stopping. Forget the name of it though.

F-Body Tim

CAR CRAFT!!! the 3g contest right???? and run 11's in the 1/4 mile

S!MON

www.trans-am.de

435cui small block with bad attitudes!!!
driving in that car is really an experience!







go to "gallerien" an then the trans-am and detail gallery.
greetings

S!MON

TTOP350

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Here is a link to pics of my car ...I have been running the crap out of it since i started to build it in 92 ... it has 222,000miles on it i drive it all over the place.....


http://www.team3rdgen.com/modules.ph...view_album.php

'86Twins

Heck yeah. I buy pretty much every domestic car magizine I can get, excluding Ford and Mopar only mags. I saw that and thought it was a neat challenge that I plan to test out on my car. Figured it should be pretty damn easy considering the platform I'm starting with is close with a few mods. :-)

Spdfrk1990

Heres my fav pro touring camaro
http://www.pro-touring.com/featured_...camaro_z28.htm

F-Body Tim

dude thats the maro from the BMR web site!!! i always was lookin for info on it.......... sweet

Red87SC

well ive been thinking about a pro-touring look on my car, but i dont want to dish out the 600$ for the friggin GFX. maybe it would look good with a 1" drop on the stock IROCs and maybe a 275 in the back with a 225 in the front? will a 275 fit on a stock rim if its got a bigger sidewall?