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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 06:04 PM
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How about... EIGHT TURBOS? On an LS1!?!?!

No fooling. Check out the dyno video link on this page: http://www.lateral-g.net/sandlin/

I am stunned. :hail: :hail:
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 06:26 PM
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 10:30 PM
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800 posts Ive seen about this on other message boards.
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 10:55 PM
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Is it me, or does it just seem a waste to have 8 turbo's on the car? Does each cylinder REALLY put out enough exhaust to spool the turbo's and make a decent amount of boost?

Seems like its a lot of extra weight and unnessesary hassle if you realy wanted to go fast. I'm no turbo expert, so I could be just way off base and ignorant.

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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 10:43 AM
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It's a show car

It's not made for highest possible horsepower output

It gets your attention and you remember it......For show, 8 turbos is better then 1 or 2.......
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 10:54 AM
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I was just thinking, If you get those turbos small enough, like the flow of two regular ones, wouldn't they spin up real fast and possibly make alot of boost down low?

Well, just a thought...
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 02:33 PM
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 04:23 PM
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Old Jun 17, 2004 | 08:05 PM
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It may not be the most effecient set-up, but it sure looks cool. And its a blast to talk to your buddies about. I marvel at the fabrication skills involved at that place. They got some real talent (and money)!
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Old Jun 20, 2004 | 09:51 PM
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the damn turbo setup is larger than the engine itself... lets see 16 turbos... maybe in parallel hook up like on import tt boost into boost.. i wanna see 300psi!!!:hail:

watched the vid.. that thing has morre whoosh than a fat man running to the car after he heard about the new all you can eat buffet.

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Old Jun 20, 2004 | 11:38 PM
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Old Jun 21, 2004 | 12:52 AM
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Old Jun 21, 2004 | 04:39 PM
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Originally posted by tilstad
I was just thinking, If you get those turbos small enough, like the flow of two regular ones, wouldn't they spin up real fast and possibly make alot of boost down low?

Well, just a thought...
it would prolly spool less

with 8 turboes you have more mass to spin
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Old Jun 21, 2004 | 04:55 PM
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Actually, properly sized it the total moment of inertia should be smaller, OTOH, smaller turbos tend to be less efficient.
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 12:55 AM
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sorry mark that was just a wasted thought
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 10:48 AM
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sorry mark that was just a wasted thought
lmao.. the idea of TT is to spool up faster and have close to teh same power of one big one. one big turbo spools slower (turbo lag) but can potentially produce more power. all relies on if you push enuff exhaust gasses to spin the turbos anyways so.....
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 11:08 AM
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Originally posted by 83 Crossfire TA
Actually, properly sized it the total moment of inertia should be smaller, OTOH, smaller turbos tend to be less efficient.
I really don't know about that

with more turbos you would seem to have more mass to move
more friction

more lots of things
less airflow going through each one
stuff like that
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 05:10 PM
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Originally posted by rx7speed
I really don't know about that

with more turbos you would seem to have more mass to move
more friction

more lots of things
less airflow going through each one
stuff like that
Weigh a small turbine/compressor wheel, find it’s radius of gyration, calculate it’s moment of inertia. I=K^2M (I= moment of inertia, K= radius of gyration and M=mass)

Then find a large single that will move 8x the air and do the same thing. You’ll find that the large single will take more power to spool, but will also be more efficient at moving that mass of air (assuming a similar design).

When done with twins vs a single you typically get something in the range of 1:2.5 (basically, it will take 2.5x the energy to accelerate the larger turbo then the 2 smaller ones)

Friction ends up negligible once the turbine shaft is supported on it’s oil film.

Not that I’m trying to make an argument that this attocity is a good idea… for most applications a properly sized single will not have any significant lag (assuming the rest of the setup is built appropriately) and will be more efficient, so why use more?
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 09:09 PM
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Originally posted by 83 Crossfire TA
Weigh a small turbine/compressor wheel, find it’s radius of gyration, calculate it’s moment of inertia. I=K^2M (I= moment of inertia, K= radius of gyration and M=mass)

Then find a large single that will move 8x the air and do the same thing. You’ll find that the large single will take more power to spool, but will also be more efficient at moving that mass of air (assuming a similar design).

When done with twins vs a single you typically get something in the range of 1:2.5 (basically, it will take 2.5x the energy to accelerate the larger turbo then the 2 smaller ones)

Friction ends up negligible once the turbine shaft is supported on it’s oil film.

Not that I’m trying to make an argument that this attocity is a good idea… for most applications a properly sized single will not have any significant lag (assuming the rest of the setup is built appropriately) and will be more efficient, so why use more?
first thing yeah I would assume if you find a turbo that would push 8x more air then twins it might cause more lag

kinda like if you find a motor that displacement 8x more air then a honda motor it might weight a little and stuff also right :-p

but not trying to compare a turbo made for huge boost with stock twins

twins vs a single both made to flow the same amount of air
I would say the single would lag les

for one thing I would think mass would be less with the single
but also comes the issue with leverage

I would think that since with twins most the surface are ais closer to the inside the exhuast isn't able to get as much leverage as with a single
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 09:10 PM
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ack wait

isn't moment of inertia covering the whole pivot point thing and the leverage or whatever you want to call it
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 03:17 AM
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Moment of inertia is determines the amount of force that must be exerted on it to accelerate it. Oh, and if it helps the radius of gyration is the radius that you could put all the weight of a rotating object at that would act the same as the actual object based on how it’s weight is distributed.

Would you care to rephrase your post, edit it or leave it like it is before I rip it to shreds? Or is that just unnecessary and you understand where/why you’re wrong?
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 12:05 PM
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Mark, go easy on him. I don't think he understands turbochargers quite like you do! JK
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 02:49 PM
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Originally posted by 83 Crossfire TA
Moment of inertia is determines the amount of force that must be exerted on it to accelerate it. Oh, and if it helps the radius of gyration is the radius that you could put all the weight of a rotating object at that would act the same as the actual object based on how it’s weight is distributed.

Would you care to rephrase your post, edit it or leave it like it is before I rip it to shreds? Or is that just unnecessary and you understand where/why you’re wrong?
rip to shreds if you will

least your giving me a chance


and I have seen this discussion somewhere else though and I'm trying to recall what they said but it wasn't just moment of inertia as the only object they talked about

and for the life of me I am trying to recall where or what else they said and I'm not sure


oh well will think about it another time :-)
but still willing to accept any of your advice
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 09:00 AM
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if you find a TT set up that will push the same amount of boost as one turbo the twins will spool faster becuz the compression impellers are smaller therefore having less drag. the draw back to twins power is maybe a lil less power, more heat in teh engine bay, mounting size/clearnces, money, etc....
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 07:08 PM
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stage em and be dont with it
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Old Jul 1, 2004 | 03:17 PM
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Originally posted by Saigon_Bob
if you find a TT set up that will push the same amount of boost as one turbo the twins will spool faster becuz the compression impellers are smaller therefore having less drag. the draw back to twins power is maybe a lil less power, more heat in teh engine bay, mounting size/clearnces, money, etc....

That my friend is why they made nitrous, gas helps spool anything, honestly the guy who built this really needs to find something to do with his money. i had heard it is not making anywhere close to the power the guy wanted
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Old Jul 2, 2004 | 08:46 AM
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so is it safe to say "all show no go"?
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Old Jul 2, 2004 | 02:29 PM
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im sure it still makes power and moves but you probably power wise could get more out of less
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Old Jul 2, 2004 | 04:41 PM
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Well, supposedly it made close to 900hp, so it should go some, but it’s definitely a show thing…
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 02:04 PM
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thats just stupod
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 03:49 PM
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Originally posted by Pablo
That is gay.


:werd: ...lmao...it is an eye catcher...
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 04:40 PM
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What a huge waste of money.

Why show off a product that isnt efficient power wise ?
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Originally posted by Guido
8 turbos
800 posts Ive seen about this on other message boards.
second or third I have seen here, first view of the dyno run and still no dyno numbers.

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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 09:48 PM
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I remember a few years ago Pat Musi was experimenting with a 4 turbo setup, but never got it sorted out...due more to the fact it was banned than anything else, from what I understand. Of course, he was going for power, not looks.
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I feel sorry for the guyt hat had to synchronize all 8 turbos


people have trouble trying to synchronize 3 LOL.
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