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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 06:50 PM
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Aluminum rear bumper bar.

I have most of the weight reduction done on the front, Now it's time to work on the middle and rear of the car. The aluminum bar is 6061-T6 and has all the factory mounts and suport points. The factory steel unit is 26lbs my aluminum one is 5lbs.

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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 07:21 PM
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Thats really cool. Is it safe for street use? Do you have any more pics?
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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 08:01 PM
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Looks good. I like how you made the tabs to secure the lower portion of the fascia. I've been wanting to make something like this for the front on my car, since I think the fascia is collapsing at high speeds with my front bumper bar removed. I'm thinking about using some thin wall chromoly tubing for mine though.
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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 11:27 PM
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Originally posted by Kory-88Iroc 350 tpi
Thats really cool. Is it safe for street use? Do you have any more pics?
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Kory
I will trade my Tig welded 4130 roll bar any day for the lack of an inpact bar. One more picture for you.

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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 11:34 PM
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any chance you plan on making these or the front ones and selling them?
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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 11:42 PM
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Originally posted by Motor City Mike
I've been wanting to make something like this for the front on my car, since I think the fascia is collapsing at high speeds with my front bumper bar removed. I'm thinking about using some thin wall chromoly tubing for mine though.
I installed the front last week so the only picture I have is in the car. The tubing is 1 inch .049 and the mounting plates and tabs are .050 all plates, tabs and tubing is 4130 and the finished part is 4.31 lbs this is with all the factory body and air duct mounts. The reason the rear one is aluminum is the large amount of tubing needed to hit all the factory suport points, a 4130 rear bumper will need to be about 9.5 lbs.

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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 12:30 AM
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would you be interested in selling a set to me?
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 07:32 AM
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Verry NIce. I would also be interested in a front and rear.
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 06:38 PM
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wow if you wont, see if you can get "spohn" to start building these, if they wont then talk to "PA racing" or "BMR" make sure you give our sponsor a chance first.
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 07:34 PM
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wow if you wont, see if you can get "spohn" to start building these, if they wont then talk to "PA racing" or "BMR" make sure you give our sponsor a chance first.
I have no problem making them for others, The problem is selling them on this board, I don't sponsor this site and will not risk getting banned for this. Last year I e-mailed the webmaster about sponsorship and got no reply so I droped it then. I can make and have the tooling for aluminum non a/c heater boxes, T-56 speedo drive kits ( cable and VSS), aluminum adjustable sway bar end links, Dana 44 kits, 4130 A-arms and more, Maybe it's time to work on this.

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Old Oct 16, 2004 | 08:54 AM
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Understandable...... take it off the boards for now. I'd e-mail you but ya have it hidden. and PM's arnt working right now.grr

e-mail me if you like. chris@cecoatings.com

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I have no problem making them for others, The problem is selling them on this board, I don't sponsor this site and will not risk getting banned for this. Last year I e-mailed the webmaster about sponsorship and got no reply so I droped it then. I can make and have the tooling for aluminum non a/c heater boxes, T-56 speedo drive kits ( cable and VSS), aluminum adjustable sway bar end links, Dana 44 kits, 4130 A-arms and more, Maybe it's time to work on this.

Jerry
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Old Oct 16, 2004 | 08:59 AM
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i would also be interested

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Old Oct 16, 2004 | 11:10 AM
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I'd be interested in a set. Shoot me an email if you want.
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Old Oct 16, 2004 | 12:44 PM
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Jerry, I tried to PM you but it's not working. Give me an email addy if you could.
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Old Oct 16, 2004 | 01:02 PM
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Old Oct 16, 2004 | 10:15 PM
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Jerry, I tried to PM you but it's not working. Give me an email addy if you could.
yep.... I tried to respond to your Pm also jerry and no luck. I did get yours.

on this and about the rims...
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Old Oct 16, 2004 | 10:22 PM
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me too obviously
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 05:33 AM
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Good job Jerry. I am very impressed.

You just shaved what, 40 lbs off the car? Nice.

I would also be interested, depending on $.

If I was to make my own....how mush does the tubing cost? What tools are necessary to construct the pieces? i.e. how did you bend it?
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 07:18 AM
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I would be interested in a front and rear set also. Let me know if you decide to do this.
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 09:37 AM
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wow if you wont, see if you can get "spohn" to start building these, if they wont then talk to "PA racing" or "BMR" make sure you give our sponsor a chance first.
sorry jerry I should have read your posts more clearly, I didn't know you were setup to do full scale production/fabrication. I didn't know you were interested in making these for others until yesterday when I reread the thread.

Its not as if you "came" here to "peddle" your wares. If you have contacted the powers that be about being a site sponsor, common sense dictates that there shouldn't be a problem. I would hope that as long as you arent directly competing with them product for product they shouldn't have a complaint right?

anyhow, I PM'd you as I too am interested in this product/products for my ride
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 02:27 PM
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Another interested person. souns like you need to get busy. Any idea on what you would charge for these? You can email me at jtmiller92@alltel.net Thanks, jt
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 05:48 PM
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Nice work!
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Old Oct 22, 2004 | 12:09 AM
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Me wantty too!

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Old Oct 23, 2004 | 04:51 PM
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wow those things are cool! Hey how much would you charge to make a set of those?
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Old Oct 24, 2004 | 07:03 PM
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I'd be up for a set of front and rear, as long as both were aluminum... email me when you start making them sysop_12@hotmail.com
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Old Oct 24, 2004 | 09:37 PM
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Very clean job! How long do you estimate it took? Did you have to use a mandrel to bend these?

Any halfway decent speed accident and our frames are getting tweaked from the impact anyways, but I'd imagine that at parking lot speeds or somewhat greater this would protect at least as well as the stock one does.

When I rebuilt mine, I didn't even think to do something like this. I cut out the rotted middle section and welded in 12ga angle iron to the ends. It works, but I probably added 10lbs to the original weight

Anyways, great job. I always get a kick out of seeing homemade stuff that turns out better than factory could do for us.
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Old Nov 9, 2004 | 03:26 PM
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how much for a set i am interested too

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Old Nov 9, 2004 | 05:35 PM
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Umm...

Sorry to go off topic but when you say "Dana 44 kits", to what are you referring? if this is a PM thing please advise. Thanks Jerry.

K

PS Beautiful work on the braces.
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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 03:32 PM
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i need these !!!!!!!!
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 07:27 PM
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 07:42 PM
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Add another to the list for front and rear. dws87@comcast.net:hail: :hail: :hail:
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Old Nov 17, 2004 | 09:37 AM
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Can you also e-mail me.

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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 12:53 PM
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how much for a set im very interested email me at silvercheese@hotmail.com
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 01:23 PM
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lol, im intrested too... and theres a couple other alum parts i want...

athough right now, im waiting to see if this "extra" money is needed during the LS1 swap....


but i just wanted to know, ive seen your work, and yes, i would buy these from you, along with some other stuff...

email me at MrDude_1@excite.com with however much you're asking for thoes tubular bumper cover supports...
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 01:26 PM
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same here.... front and rear.
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 06:05 PM
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Has anyone gotten a response or heard anything else about these parts? Just wondering........jt
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 09:56 PM
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I would be interested in a set if the price is right, can't see spending a lot of time doing them myself if I can have them shipped to my door. More time to spend on the engine ;-)
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 12:00 AM
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wow! awesome job man! thats along the same line as the idea i had for support "cages" when i removed my inner bumpers. im going to see what i can come up with. but if u are going to start selling these i may take the easy way out and buy a pair off u
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Old Dec 5, 2004 | 11:26 PM
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Here in about 3 months I'm gonna be taking the bumpers and everything of my car to do the body work so you can count on me for a set just e-mail me and let me know a price.

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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 10:46 AM
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has ANYONE gotten a reply from JERRYWHO??


i havent




and i like this mod... i want somthign light to support the nose while allowing me to remove the bumper.
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 12:08 PM
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nah that guy seems liek a slacker. that guy can be making thousands and he chooses not to. if someone sends me a diagram/schematic ill make em for a nice price and sall em
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 12:13 PM
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Originally posted by camaroracer1992
nah that guy seems liek a slacker. that guy can be making thousands and he chooses not to. if someone sends me a diagram/schematic ill make em for a nice price and sall em
eh, i wouldnt call him a slacker.

from everything ive seen from him, hes a very skilled fabricator..



he probly doesnt want to go into production with it.... im kinda the same way.. i make all kinds of neat electronic stuff, but when it comes to building 40 of the lil suckers to sell, i dont want to do that... id rather continue on designing new things.


i just wish i had the tools he has.. lol.
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 01:43 PM
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I would like to have one for the front and rear but Jerrywho's last post on this thread was 10/15/04. Guess hes not really interested in selling them. Understandable though, it looks to be very time consuming. Just wish he would let someone know something.......................jt
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 01:48 PM
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i was wanting to buy some aswell. i could fab them on my own, so i guess thats what i'll have to go ahead and do. if its not that hard i'll see about jigging it up. sometimes its just easier to buy things though
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 03:35 PM
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id like to know some dimensions, or a price for what these would cost! good idea though man! im impressed!
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 09:23 PM
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keep me updated guys if he will make them to sell
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 06:32 AM
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Jerrywho,

Dunno if you're still watching this thread, but I just wanted to throw some things out. Maybe you've already thought of them and that's why you're not answering everybody's post....

Irregardless of how strong your impact bar is (I'm not disagreeing with you or questioning your welding/bending skills), I believe in a lot of states its considered illegal to modify "safety" equipment on a vehicle. Now whether or not the impact bar qualifies as a safety item or not isn't for me to say, but if you're going to start producing these things it's worth looking into before you get into a lawsuit down the road.

If I were you, I'd first look into getting a patent for the design, and then look into getting it D.O.T. approved, before you think about producing them. I don't know what it takes to go through these processes, or if it costs anything, but that's what I'd do to cover my butt.

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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 07:28 AM
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It should be sold for "off road use only" that way what ever the end user does with it is up to them. Just about everything on my driver is offroad use only.
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 05:03 PM
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well in some staes it is true but in others its not plus make it to be used off road only like some lights exc.
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 06:46 PM
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lights? the bumper cover covers the bar...



and it looks awesome, I would definitely get a set for the "other" car
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