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Old 03-24-2001, 01:26 PM
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Laser jammers - anyone using one that works?

I want to buy one but I want to get through the bs and have a good one.

The police in Ontario make so much money from speeding tickets that they have virtually scrapped all their old radar guns.

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radar and laser jammers do not work period. The best you are going to do is get a good detector like a valantine(sp?) one. Road and track did a bunch of articles on this I'll see if I can fiond them in their archives and post them.
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All the radar jammers that are sold to the publics do not work at all. I'm not totally clear about the differences between effective ones and the ones that are sold, but I'll try the best I can. All the ones being sold are passive jammers. I think they don't activate until you're already hit with radar. The ones do work are active jammers and are on all the time. To get one of these that is powerful enough to work, you have to build it yourself. They are illegal, and the parts to build it will run you around $1000-$3000 depending on what plans you get. You're better off going with a Valentine One radar detector.

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First of all, active laser jammers do work . I don't know what test you saw, but it obviously wasn't for any decent jammer.
Laser Echo II and K40 laser jammers are the ones to get sleeper.

Radar jammers start at $400. Not in the thousands. They are very effective and many manufacturers have already produced them.

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Ok, the active ones do work. Bu they are illegal. If the cop finds it then depending on what kind of day he is having he can do a couple of things 1) look the other way 2)fine you for a FCC violation. (you need a permit to broadcast on airwaves over a certain distance.) 3) He can arrest you for obstruction of justice. If it's worth the risk to have one go for it but stay away from the passive ones.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by camaroguy99:
Ok, the active ones do work. Bu they are illegal. </font>
Active Laser jammers are LEGAL!!!!!
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Not in Califonia or most other states. Hell you can't even sell laser detectors in Virginia. In reality you aren't allowed to have detectors either but I haven't had any experiance with getting caught with one so I don't know if the cop would take it or what not.

Besides if you think about it logically do you really think that the cops are going to allow you to have a device that enables you to render thier equipment useless? They aren't out there to make it an even playing field. They want every advantage they can get.
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Car and Driver did an article on this a few years back. They found the most effective way to thwart laser was to mount a single high wattage driving light on the front end with a infrared pass filter covering it. The filter cut down on the brightness to other drivers while still flooding the laser gun with excess infrared light waves. The gun could not get a good reading and would give no results back. You have the advantage of using your headlights all the time in Ontario anyway so you could do this for less than $100 and wire it to your DRLs.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by camaroguy99:
Not in Califonia or most other states. Hell you can't even sell laser detectors in Virginia. In reality you aren't allowed to have detectors either but I haven't had any experiance with getting caught with one so I don't know if the cop would take it or what not.
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You're right about detectors being illegal in a few states. But I was speaking about detectors/jammers that are legal in all the other states. I thought that went without saying,but..... obviously not.
By the way, running a detector in an area where it is illegal is not to bright. You're lucky you haven't been caught yet. That VG-2 bullcrap is exactly that, BULLCRAP.

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Besides if you think about it logically do you really think that the cops are going to allow you to have a device that enables you to render thier equipment useless? They aren't out there to make it an even playing field. They want every advantage they can get. </font>

This statement is irrelevant and contains no facts what so ever. So then we can say using a detector (in a legal state) alerts you to the Cop's presence, so he's not going to let me get away with it? Totally irrelevant.
You are incorrect anyway. Theres nothing they can do. They can't fine you for making their laser gun read blank. They can't take you to jail, and they won't spank you either.
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Sorry form, but unless the law has changed recently, any form of active radar/laser jammer is illegal in the US. c-guy already gave you the reason, it is not a matter of local jurisdiction, it's in the FCC's hands.
the best proof i can give you is this. Turn your keyboard over...you should see a label stating "This device complies with part 15 of FCC rules...subject to 2 conditions: 1, it may not produce harmful interference. 2, it must accept any interference it recieves." Now go lookl around some more, you'll notice that pretty much anything you own thats electronic has the same warning, even radar detectors. Now i guess you think that since a jammer is supposed to produce interference thats OK. Thats like saying your car can go 155 so it's legal. Unless you are the military you cannot purposeless generate any form of EMI.
I mean ****, why stop at radar/laser jammers, let's get some radio jammers so we can jam the cops radios and we can go on a crime spree.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Ed Maher:
Sorry form, but unless the law has changed recently, any form of active radar/laser jammer is illegal in the US. c-guy already gave you the reason, it is not a matter of local jurisdiction, it's in the FCC's hands.
the best proof i can give you is this. Turn your keyboard over...you should see a label stating "This device complies with part 15 of FCC rules...subject to 2 conditions: 1, it may not produce harmful interference. 2, it must accept any interference it recieves." Now go lookl around some more, you'll notice that pretty much anything you own thats electronic has the same warning, even radar detectors. Now i guess you think that since a jammer is supposed to produce interference thats OK. Thats like saying your car can go 155 so it's legal. Unless you are the military you cannot purposeless generate any form of EMI.
I mean ****, why stop at radar/laser jammers, let's get some radio jammers so we can jam the cops radios and we can go on a crime spree.
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Well thanks for that little enlightenment. I'm sorry to prove you wrong mr. Ed, but.. . Just check out this link

http://www.k40.com/K40Radar/LaserDefuser.htm

That is an ACTIVE laser jammer called Defuser. Doesn't fall under FCC

Why don't you give them a call if you don't believe me.

There are also others out there exactly the same. Laser Echo being another excellent one. Are all active laser jammers and are class III laser devices. There goes your FCC theory.



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I don't believe that it will work if it is legal. There is no loophole that allows you to jam ****, unless it doesn't actually work. And i'm not calling them or anyone else, i really don't care that much. Unless you can show me how a laser gun works, as in specifics of the beam, and the measurement paraphenalia, any presentation of technology is useless. I'll dismiss it as an ineffective snake oil. Recall, duralube would have you believe their product has merit...
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You better stick to mobile phones Ed

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You ask for it you got it. Heres some general knowledge.

Transmitting on 904 nanometers and traveling at 186,000 miles per second, laser guns utilize a very tight, invisible beam of light to target moving vehicles.

Each emitted pulse is timed leaving the laser gun and again when it returns. The difference is displayed as miles per hour. The K40 active jammer boosts 904 nanometers, the frequency used by police laser guns. It does not interfere with radio waves or any devices regulated by the FCC. As such, there are no federal laws regulating its use (ahem ahem).

It works by constantly emitting 904 nanometers, the same frequency as the laser gun. Which makes it an ACTIVE JAMMER.

To work properly, laser gun manufacturers recommend an angle of 10 degrees off center of the target.
Usually, this is a straight shot to the front or rear of the moving target.(which is why laser jammers are located in the front of the vehicle)

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check out this link. It's a BMW aftermarket vendor who witnessed the testing of a Defuser

http://www.allbmwparts.com/laser/k40.htm
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Ok guys, I got board of this subject half way down the page. Just to let you all know, first, I live in ON as well as sleeper. If he is talking abought Canada. Anything like that is illegal here. The cops here have instent on radars, therefor if you hav a jammer, they will know. The best way to do it is to get a detector. If he pulls the triger on someone a head of you, your lucky and know to slow down. If all the sudden youy here the beeping like mad, DONT HIT THE BRAKES. If he sees the brake lits on as soon as he pulls the triger, he nows what you have. Take it like a man/woman and pay the ticket. Its better than having your car riped appart as there looking for the hiden unit. Hoping you would be smart enuf to hid it in the head rest or something. Any other questions abought the bull we halfto put up with around here?
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have to put in my .02 now...I have bought plans from the internet and build the jammer..All in all around 120 bucks. I have it built into my front grill so it is invisible(just about) and it does work on the 3 bands of radar.
I know 2 cops in carbondale and asked them to try to "shoot" my car, he tried 7(YES 7 times) the first 2 000 MPH I was doing 45 in a 25, 3rd-5th 125(gun malfunctioned) again I was doing 45. 6th and 7th it read 199 maxed out. My freind could not believe it. He has never seen a jammer that actually worked.
And for those that want to know the distance being shot it started 7 blocks away roughly 3/4 miles and he could not get a speed until I passed him. I do not have one for the rear yet.
I did not mention the radio jammer I have as well...can scramble up to 2 miles. I modified a cobra to emit a 175 watt signal over the police band creating white noise. Never mind the radar gun or the radio I am gone period...LOL I have been asked by drug runner to run for them...I said no...
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Even if there is not an FCC problem with it. You can also be brought up under obstruction of justice. Becuase in effect that is the exact thing you are doing. You are preventing the police from doing thier job.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by camaroguy99:
Even if there is not an FCC problem with it. You can also be brought up under obstruction of justice. Becuase in effect that is the exact thing you are doing. You are preventing the police from doing thier job. </font>
Total BS if you are referring to the laser jammer. You cannot be charged with obstruction of justice or any other charge for that matter by using a laser jammer(where not illegal to posess). (Yes I know the law, I am in the process of joining a county police dept in va.) Of course this doesn't mean you can go 200mph past a cop using laser. Because THEN he will get you for reckless driving or something similar. Laser jammers weren't designed for that anyway. They were designed to give you adequate time to reduce your speed before the cop gets a reading (generally a good laser jammer gives 5-7seconds of time). Think of them as more of a laser detector that works , not a cloaking device. To further argue your statment...Can we say radar detectors are obstructing justice because they are alerting the driver to police presence before the cop can operate the radar gun... therefore interfering with the cop doing his job?? Of course not!


camarodhuntr, your police friend has never seen a jammer that works, because there are very few radar jammers that DO work. Why? Because most jammers for sale are passive . There is one popular one called the Phantom (not to be confused with the Rocky Mountain Radar Phantom crap version). The Phantom james X and K band effectively but is illegal because of it's active technology. It's also quite expensive at $599-$799
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Camarodhuntr you said : I did not mention the radio jammer I have as well...can scramble up to 2 miles. I modified a cobra to emit a 175 watt signal over the police band creating white noise. Never mind the radar gun or the radio I am gone period...LOL I have been asked by drug runner to run for them...I said no... </font>

First off, MOST police agencies don't even use the radios you speak of anymore (low mhz). The majority switched over to Motorola 800mhz digital. You can't even listen to them on scanners anymore, it is a digital signal which means they have it encrypted. Don't believe me? Go out and buy a 800mhz scanner. Sure, it's designed to pick up police...but police (now even some fire companies) are encrpyting signals.
Any device you speak of would not do anything but give YOU false security. Secondly, scanners read around 29-54 Mhz, 118-174 Mhz, 406-512 Mhz, 806-823.9875 Mhz. Police radar guns operate between 10.5 ghz and 36 ghz. How can you say you will jam police radar guns? YOU better stick to mobile phones like Ed.

There has been a lot of misinformation on this site regarding this subject. A lot of the individuals that put in their 2cents don't know what the hell they're talking about. To be honest, I'm kind of tired of repeating myself. Go look at this post and the post in the electronics forum to see what I mean. It's fine to have an opinion and ask questions, but giving total BS information just shows ignorance. (not looking for a flame war mind you)

I am done commenting on all brainless statements.



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taken straight from the CVC(california vehicle code):

28150. (a) No vehicle shall be equipped with any device that is designed for, or is capable of, jamming, scrambling, neutralizing, disabling, or otherwise interfering with radar, laser, or any other electronic device used by a law enforcement agency to measure the speed of moving objects.

(b) No person shall use, buy, possess, manufacture, sell, or otherwise distribute any device that is designed for jamming, scrambling, neutralizing, disabling, or otherwise interfering with radar, laser, or any other electronic device used by a law enforcement agency to measure the speed of moving objects.

(c) Except as provided in subdivision (d), a violation of subdivision (a) or (b) is an infraction.

(d) When a person possesses four or more devices in violation of subdivision (b), the
person is guilty of a misdemeanor.

(e) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, a person who has a valid federal license for operating the devices described in this section may transport one or more of those devices if the license is carried in the vehicle transporting the device at all times when the device is being transported.

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc28150.htm

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by camaroguy99:
taken straight from the CVC(california vehicle code):

28150. (a) No vehicle shall be equipped with any device that is designed for, or is capable of, jamming, scrambling, neutralizing, disabling, or otherwise interfering with radar, laser, or any other electronic device used by a law enforcement agency to measure the speed of moving objects.

(b) No person shall use, buy, possess, manufacture, sell, or otherwise distribute any device that is designed for jamming, scrambling, neutralizing, disabling, or otherwise interfering with radar, laser, or any other electronic device used by a law enforcement agency to measure the speed of moving objects.

(c) Except as provided in subdivision (d), a violation of subdivision (a) or (b) is an infraction.

(d) When a person possesses four or more devices in violation of subdivision (b), the
person is guilty of a misdemeanor.

(e) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, a person who has a valid federal license for operating the devices described in this section may transport one or more of those devices if the license is carried in the vehicle transporting the device at all times when the device is being transported.

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc28150.htm

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HELLO. ANY radar/laser jammer active or passive is illegal to use in states CA, NE, OK, VA, MN and Washington D.C. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Didn't you read what I wrote ?
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">theformula wrote: "where not illegal to posess" </font>


That law you posted only applies to 6 states pal. This should of went without me saying anything (even though I did). I thought you would realize, when I spoke of detectors/jammers...I was speaking for WHERE THEY ARE LEGAL. Maybe I should of said "yes, jammers are legal in every state except 6." We'll give you the benefit of the doubt though since you do live in California.

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HEY CAMARO_HUNTER_D...Mind emailing me those plans you got along with any tips for building it? I would really like to know how to do that My email is arwjosh@home.com
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Another request for the plans please!

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Hi, Camaro_hunter_d!

Please send me any web links, plans and/or info you may have on radar/laser detectors/jammers. I want to put together my own unit. Not very electronic savvy myself, but son is taking electrical engineering in college and I believe we can build one.

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yeah hold on and I will edit this message with the web site...sorry so long just saw this one again. And to the cop wanna be...you can change the emitters in the good cobra cb radios to whatever you want... I have mine emitting 700-789 and 790-845. So go figure huh?...and I have never been pulled over with my system powered up, Meaning while I was in northern va (yes I lived in manassas,fairfax and serveral other cites counties I never got busted by cop or radio.)
www.electronickits.com is one though I don't think I got theres.. I'll look for the other.
This is the one that I bought. I had a freind of mine in Va do the cobra I live in Illinois now sorry. http://www.plans-kits.com/
I have also bought a passive radar jammer from ebay..the Phantom one, and it has mixed results, sometimes it does work but most the time it does absolutely nothing. By the way if anyone wants this thing I am selling it..Only $100 bucks..LOL better than the $350 the manufacturer wants..LOL
P.S. I want something that will melt down their stuff too...teach them not to mess with the smart public. I know it can be done but don't know how...YET...LOL


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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Camaro_hunter_d:
Never mind the radar gun or the radio I am gone period</font>
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Adn to the cop wanna be...you can change the emitters in the good cobra cb radios to whatever you want... I have mine emitting 700-789 and 790-845</font>

So how do you plan to scramble 36ghz (ka band) then?
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the higher numbers were for the radio..sorry did not clarify that. The diagrams/plans show what parts are needed(and how to put it togeather) to jam all radar freq.

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Hi again, Camaro_hunter_d!

Thanks for web links and info! Really appreciate your assistance! Will monitor this thread for further info and developments while you and theformula settle your differences regarding scrambling 36ghz (ka band) emissions. (I'm not weighing in - just want to learn about this stuff - it's fascinating!)

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No Prob enigma (But I am one of those loud "unrespectful little brats with my sterio most the time...LOLOLOL) Jking.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Camaro_hunter_d:
No Prob enigma (But I am one of those loud "unrespectful little brats with my sterio most the time...LOLOLOL) Jking. </font>
That's cool, Camaro_hunter_d!

Once I figure out how to build my laser jammer, I'll be having too much fun to notice! Around 110 mph, my '57 Chevy starts getting quiet - sort of outruns its own exhaust sound. Near 130, all you can hear is the wind and a faint mechanical sound from the engine. Love the "Sounds of Silence" at high speed!!!

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so formula you have not said anything in a while...could it be that you saw what I was saying?...
I have a 94 cobra cb radio that emits 2 radio bands. 700-789 and 790-845. The Ka band yu speak of my cb does not emit cause it takes care of the radio bands not the radar. thats what the actual jammers are for.
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Here is your first quote:

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Camarodhuntr you said : I did not mention the radio jammer I have as well...can scramble up to 2 miles. I modified a cobra to emit a 175 watt signal over the police band creating white noise. Never mind the radar gun or the radio I am gone period...LOL I have been asked by drug runner to run for them...I said no... </font>


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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Camaro_hunter_d:
so formula you have not said anything in a while...could it be that you saw what I was saying?...
I have a 94 cobra cb radio that emits 2 radio bands. 700-789 and 790-845. The Ka band yu speak of my cb does not emit cause it takes care of the radio bands not the radar. thats what the actual jammers are for.
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Well according to your previous statement , it shows you are saying your cb radio can jam both radio and radar. So which is it? First you say you can jam both. Then when I tell you that you are no where near the frequency to do so, you change your story and say the radio you own only james radio, not radar.
I told you before camarohunter, stick to cell phones



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Oh yea, by the way. Even if you COULD emit the 700-789 and 790-845 you claim to emit to jam police radio......it would not matter . The 800mhz the police use for their radios is a DIGITAL signal. Digital is encrypted buddy.

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whatever..I know it works so whatever you say really does not matter to me. You were asking for a system that works and now you only want to bitch, complain and tell me that I am lying about everything.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by theformula:
Here is your first quote:

Well according to your previous statement , it shows you are saying your cb radio can jam both radio and radar. So which is it? First you say you can jam both. Then when I tell you that you are no where near the frequency to do so, you change your story and say the radio you own only james radio, not radar.
I told you before camarohunter, stick to cell phones

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Uh with the quotes you posted of his, in his 1st he says he didn't mention in addition to his radar/laser jammers he has a radio jammer, and in his 2nd he says he has a radio jammer that DOES NOT emit KA band, so where did you get that his radio jams KA? Oh yeah I'm not saying I believe this either but I think you guys need to read what the other says before you flame each other to h*ll!


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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by auxout:
Uh with the quotes you posted of his, in his 1st he says he didn't mention in addition to his radar/laser jammers he has a radio jammer, and in his 2nd he says he has a radio jammer that DOES NOT emit KA band, so where did you get that his radio jams KA? Oh yeah I'm not saying I believe this either but I think you guys need to read what the other says before you flame each other to h*ll!


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You need to take some of your own advice. Look closely at this following statement he made.

"Never mind the radar gun or the radio I am gone period."

If you have half a brain you can clearly see he is saying the little invention he made jams the radar gun. X,K,and KA is radar. I swear I should be getting paid for all this.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Camaro_hunter_d:
have to put in my .02 now...I have bought plans from the internet and build the jammer..All in all around 120 bucks. I have it built into my front grill so it is invisible(just about) and it does work on the 3 bands of radar.
I know 2 cops in carbondale and asked them to try to "shoot" my car, he tried 7(YES 7 times) the first 2 000 MPH I was doing 45 in a 25, 3rd-5th 125(gun malfunctioned) again I was doing 45. 6th and 7th it read 199 maxed out. My freind could not believe it. He has never seen a jammer that actually worked.
And for those that want to know the distance being shot it started 7 blocks away roughly 3/4 miles and he could not get a speed until I passed him. I do not have one for the rear yet.
I did not mention the radio jammer I have as well...can scramble up to 2 miles. I modified a cobra to emit a 175 watt signal over the police band creating white noise. Never mind the radar gun or the radio I am gone period...LOL I have been asked by drug runner to run for them...I said no...
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#1 I didn't flame either of you I said you should read what each other says.

#2 My half of a brain can easily see this, you took that quote out of context, if we look at his entire post here we can clearly see what he says, and I have italicized it for you with my half a brain.

It clearly says this
"I did not mention the radio jammer I have as well"
NOW HOW IN THE HELL CAN I MISINTERPRET THE MEANING OF "AS WELL" If he said something different to you privately fine but in his post he clearly says as well so I do follow my own advice and you should get paid jack squat. Oh yeah and you will make a great cop, perfect attitude! You are right and everyone else is a half-brain

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Look closely at ALL of Camaro hunters quote genius:

"I did not mention the radio jammer I have as well...can scramble up to 2 miles. I modified a cobra to emit a 175 watt signal over the police band creating white noise. Never mind the radar gun or the radio I am gone period"

Hint: "never mind the radar gun or the radio I am gone period"

Here he is stating (judging from my 21 years speaking english) that the radio jammer he has jams both radio, and radar.

If you still can't understand this, you are simply just an idiot.
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Like I said you will make a good cop, I looked at all of the quote and I guess your measley 21 yrs expierience in english lacks in the department of reading AS WELL. How in the hell do you get that saying "forget the radar gun or the radio i am gone" interprets into my device jams both, unless you are an idiot you would realize this. You are making it say what you want to say. Your hint isn't a hint it's exactly what you are interpeting to mean something f'ed up, that you want it to mean! He says he built the radar jammer into his grill and he didn't mention the radio jammer he has as well! that would mean in addition to einstien! If you can't be wrong i understand, it's in your blood now, you are gonna be a cop and once again you say look at all of the quote while you quote a small section, thats real genius in action. I have a refrigiderator and TV as well that plays channel 7. So you can forget me going shopping or listening to the radio. So by saying that does it mean my refridgerator plays channel 7 or my TV holds food? Get real man you just have to be right, it's ok i won't make you cry anymore

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Well formula what can I say you will make a very stupid cop and you will never pass the detectives exam. Read the first post I said...you cannot even comprehend the information that is typed so that you can read over and over again so you can get ahold of the info being related to you. I stated that I have a jammer...It jams the 3 bands of radar...I also stated that I have a "modified" Cobra cb radio that is able to jam the radio. That info is related in the copy below try to read it and get all the info.


I have to put in my .02 now...I have bought plans from the internet and build the JAMMER..All in all around 120 bucks. I have it built into my front grill so it is invisible(just about) AND IT DOES WORK ON THE 3 BANDS OF RADAR.
I know 2 cops in carbondale and asked them to try to "shoot" my car, he tried 7(YES 7 times) the first 2 000 MPH I was doing 45 in a 25, 3rd-5th 125(gun malfunctioned) again I was doing 45. 6th and 7th it read 199 maxed out. My freind could not believe it. He has never seen a jammer that actually worked.
And for those that want to know the distance being shot it started 7 blocks away roughly 3/4 miles and he could not get a speed until I passed him. I do not have one for the rear yet.
I DID NOT MENTION THE RADIO JAMMER I HAVE AS WELL... it can scramble up to 2 miles. I have a modified a cobra to emit a 175 watt signal over the police band creating white noise. Never mind the radar gun or the radio I am gone period--NOW READ THAT PART CLOSELY IT MEANS THAT I CAN JAM THE RADAR AND THE RADIO---...LOL I have been asked by drug runner to run for them...I said no...


And some more info for ya as well...according to a few old navy buddies of mine a radio signal is a radio signal. Meaning that digital or not if a stronger signal is transmitted over a signal it will override it. Gee imagine that... I have a tendancy to key up when I get tired of my G/F being on my wireless home phone (it is an 800hz signal) and well within my emitter range.
That is also why a navy F-14 fighter jet can easily override a cops radar gun as well(along with any other radio signal)...Did you know that?...probly not. You may be wondering why I know that..I was in the Navy for a few years as a jet engine mech. It seems that the Navy cannot operate their radar below 8k feet in a populated area because of the interferance created by the radar. Now if you wish to continue to prove how you cannot read the info placed to you by all means continue to argue.

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to those that was wondering/wanting the info I placed it here for ya to go look up. And I appologize for the mass of posts to get the info straightened out for a misunderstanding person.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by theformula:
[B] Here is your first quote:

Well according to your previous statement , it shows you are saying your cb radio can jam both radio and radar. So which is it? First you say you can jam both. Then when I tell you that you are no where near the frequency to do so, you change your story and say the radio you own only james radio, not radar.
I told you before camarohunter, stick to cell phones

Try reading the entire post and you may see the light...It seems that a few other can see the info presented why can't you see it?...A future cop indeed I feel safer already...I am glad I no longer live in VA! I can tell you that much...

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by theformula:
Look closely at ALL of Camaro hunters quote genius:

"I did not mention the radio jammer I have as well...can scramble up to 2 miles. I modified a cobra to emit a 175 watt signal over the police band creating white noise. Never mind the radar gun or the radio I am gone period"

Hint: "never mind the radar gun or the radio I am gone period"

Here he is stating (judging from my 21 years speaking english) that the radio jammer he has jams both radio, and radar.

If you still can't understand this, you are simply just an idiot.
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You are just a full on natural blonde arn't ya! You seem to hone in on the end of the message and not the begining try reading the entire message next time.
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I told you I was done arguing with morons. I've already taught you enough ...

But to comment on ANOTHER idiotic point you brought up...

No Camaro, a radio signal is not a radio signal. Analog waves (no matter what the frequency) can be received by anything on the same frequency. Digital uses an encryption process (sometimes 1 million languages) and the device receiving is like a "key" deciphering the encrypted transmission. Think of a 2.4ghz digital portable phone and the phone base. They communicate, the base holds the key. Do you understand now? I know this is kind of hard for a 17 year old like you to grasp but bare with me. Looks like you've gone to a lot of trouble to attempt to prove me wrong, I'm glad you have enough free time in your sad life to do research to at least....try!

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I really didn't want to say anything else to your majesty, but what does 1 million languages mean? Are you talking about DSS or real encryption? or something else?

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by theformula:
I told you I was done arguing with morons. I've already taught you enough ...

But to comment on ANOTHER idiotic point you brought up...

No Camaro, a radio signal is not a radio signal. Analog waves (no matter what the frequency) can be received by anything on the same frequency. Digital uses an encryption process (sometimes 1 million languages) and the device receiving is like a "key" deciphering the encrypted transmission. Think of a 2.4ghz digital portable phone and the phone base. They communicate, the base holds the key. Do you understand now? I know this is kind of hard for a 17 year old like you to grasp but bare with me. Looks like you've gone to a lot of trouble to attempt to prove me wrong, I'm glad you have enough free time in your sad life to do research to at least....try!

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they use encyrption huh?...then answer me this one brainiac...why is it that the old style scanners can pick up in house portable AND celluar phones??? hell the handhld scanner I have now even picks up my house phone..its a digital signal...By the way its a bear cat.
You say I am 17 huh?...ok I jined the navy at age 10 then...I spent 2 years in making me at least 20...but sense I did not join until I was 23 that means I am 25. SO go try to be a "good Cop" somewhere else...
And try not to flunk out of the academy...really please we need more dumb *** cops around. And sorry to say I would have to say I probly know more about this than you do sorry. In the navy I worked promarily with the AT's (aircraft electricians) There the one's that take care of the radio and transmitting equipment. try to go fake someone else out.

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Just read this whole argument and just had to put in a bit. Radar is illegal to jam in the US with any type of active jamming system. What most people forget is that Laser (lidar) units are in no way a type of radar and are therefore not regulated by FCC. They dont use any radio frequency. They use laser light to track your speed. You can jam laser with simple infared LED's on your dash, (well sort of). There are NO laws on emitting light, no matter what kind, which is exactly what "laser" jammers do. As for "radar" it is illegal to jam actively.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by definitive1:
Just read this whole argument and just had to put in a bit. Radar is illegal to jam in the US with any type of active jamming system. What most people forget is that Laser (lidar) units are in no way a type of radar and are therefore not regulated by FCC. They dont use any radio frequency. They use laser light to track your speed. You can jam laser with simple infared LED's on your dash, (well sort of). There are NO laws on emitting light, no matter what kind, which is exactly what "laser" jammers do. As for "radar" it is illegal to jam actively.</font>
ACTIVE Radar jammers are illegal but more useful than both passive jammers and detectors.
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