84Z28_5.7ltr_V8

this is the stupidest post in the worldd

vexter

uh huh...

383backinblack

neutral doesnt affect the statistics, so the opposed 33% is a plurality.....which means there were more, but not a majority.

i would also like to add that i find it disturbing you took the time to compile those statistics

vexter

*shrugs* I was at work. I found it disturbing you would overgeneralize in an effort to beef up your arguement. However, I'm more than willing to let it drop. Sorry if I've offended anyone.

86IROCNJ

Well, from the looks of this thread, i can see we have not gotten any further on the clear tail lights issue. Some like them, some despise them, who really cares guys? I'm not the type of person to go tattle tailing to the administration but this thread is rediculous to say the least. Now some of you are starting to bring in a damn statistics lesson! What is that all about? The kid got his answer, no they are not available and yes, people are "making" some type of attemp to create something that even resembles a decent looking tailight. Time to cut your losses guys and move on! Please

Quick6

Grow up people.

Lessk

The more replies that are made, the more replies will be made to those replies....Nobody reply to my reply. And yes I know mine was a reply, but I was replying in order to halt any further replies...yeah....shhh!

GNR4EVR

I'm not one to comment on other peoples' exterior mods, but I will say that I'm glad altezza/clear tails are not available for third gens. If you want to make them, more power to you, it's better than riding down to your local r|ce shelter and picking up some badly molded crap and sticking it to the back of your car, then standing back from it and saying to yourself, "Man, dat's phat, yo."

Would I put clear tails on my 'Bird? Heck no!

Do what you want man, it's your responsibility to ignore any ensuing laughter

383backinblack

well said

bigals87z28

:sillylol: :sillylol: :sillylol: :sillylol:
ALRIGHT its time to close this.. please! and really.. whats with the stats? come on mods... lets go... clean up here... no more watchin this thread... if other mods see this, IM the mod of this board... please

dans82bird

Altezza's on a Camaro.... please don't let me find your car or i'll destroy them

kane91z

the only thing i hate about my car are the tail lights

its the only thing that makes the car look dated

I don't want clear lights - just better looking ones

my car will be go and show (crap if i didn't care about looks i wouldn't have spent a week painting/polishing/porting my tpi)

iroc2nv

thats not a very smart thing to say....trust me...


you mess with another mans ride...and you could be signing your death certificate..

iroc2nv

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86IROCNJ

He said that 2 months ago, let it go man. Just do what you want with your car! So, any updates with your tail lights?

tpiroc

Yeah, iroc2nv, do you have any progress pictures? Rs_kid, any luck finding anyone else making up a pair? By the way, why isn't there this type of rage over blackouts? I personally feel blackouts are as nasty if not nastier (+trashier) than the concept of clear/euro style tail-lights. All blackouts do is dim light, and look like a crummy tack-on K-Mart accessory (in my personal opinion, hint hint opinions can't be wrong, they're personal preferences - I wonder if some of the guys saying "I'd kill a man with those installed" have some other tollerence problems as well ).

Here's a sloppy treat for the "haters"...
EDIT: For the record, I don't think these look good. But think a design similar to factory characteristics with a nice clear red lens rather than poopy diffused dull colored plastic would look nice.

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vexter

Actually, I don't give a ratz azz what other people think. IT'S MY CAR... GET IT??? It makes me laugh when I read the weak azzed claims of "I'd do this" or "I'd do that". Snap back to reality people. :lala:

As for the Altezza's, I'd love to get ahold of a set with the dark grey lenses.

iroc2nv

no pics yet....

i still need the clear plastic lense for the complete effect...

no pics until i or someone can vaccu form something for me.. i dont think it will come of..so i may have to fab a set from another vehicle, (fox body stangs are pretty close as are preludes and integras..)

ill keep you posted

iroc2nv

lockdude

Have you tried plexiglas yet? Or is that illegal? It's pretty to bend and mold.

iroc2nv

no..i didnt even think of plexi glass...

hmm...

thats a possibility...

ill try that and get back to all

iroc2nv

Rizock2000

Iroc2nv,

I have only one question for you. I know what you do to your car is up to you, but I was just curious as to why you would take a car that was designed in a wind tunnel in order to be functionally aerodynamic, slap all that extra weight on it (including a non-functional spoiler... as opposed to the stock spoiler), and ruin the aerodynamics? What's the point in adding a spoiler that has no aerodynamic functionality on your car? Isn't that the whole point of having a wing on a car? I'm not trying to bash your ideas, if you want to get creative with your car that's up to you, but why not add mods that improve the car's performance/functionality?

bigals87z28

Rizock... just leave these guys alone... im not flaming at ya... there is just no getting at these guys what so ever. Let them build there pretty lights and there huge wings... there no need to start another fight here when there not gunna do anything but preach there originality.

lockdude

I'd like to point out to you, Rizock, that the aerodynamics of the car does leave room for improvement: at 95 mph, the nose lifts off the ground. The car was shaped as it was for looks. There are many different cars out there to try to cover the many different style wants of the public. If you can't find the car you want, you take an exsisting car and modify it, or build one from scratch.

USA-1

The one thing I noticed about this place is that the under 25 crowd are soooo quick to rip someone because they are not following the strict stock guidelines. Maybe it's because they deal the most with the same age group that is style mod crazy right now. I'm sorry, a 305 or a six cylinder is not a muscle car. Yeah, it might be a Camaro/Trans Am or whatever. I've got the 5.7 and I don't consider it a muscle car. You guys who drive small engine third gens while pounding your chests and preaching stock muscle need to relax.

As far as appearance or "all show and no go" ... who asked for your permission? Once you own the car - YOU OWN THE CAR!!!! This guy paid for it. He doesn't need your permission nor asked for your opinion. Until you start paying for his restore/modification why don't you just shut the hell up. Maybe it's time to grow up a little. I'll be damned if I'm going to drive the same EXACT car as everyone else because some 19 year punk tells me that that's the "muscle" car way. Get over it!

RS, I may not agree with it but you'll never know until you ask. Do what you want until someone else foots the bill. It's your car and you paid for it.

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bigals87z28

Rizock... tolda ya!

just a little side note... under 25? i would think thats people under 25 are doing the clear lights thing. Last time i looked into a high school parking lot, there wre more civics with clear lights in the student lot then the teachers lot.... its the people over 25 that have grown up with these cars, and some have seen been in a firstgen in 67. As a teenager, i belive that my generation is the dumbest, untalented, lazy generation ever. Why would they wana go throught the pains and trouble to make there car fast when a civic is just soo cool. anyway... im gunna go off and beat my chest about my car.... bye

87WS6

I am 24 and I do not install clear lights on anything. They are not my preference. IF Iroc2nv wants to put clear lights and a wing on his car he can. Because it's his and I don't concern myself with what other people are doing.

As far as ripping on the 305 for not being a muscle car engine I would dissagree. I have rarely found anyone willing to race it that could beat me. Even stock.

Secondly the 305 like any other SBC has potential. Would I choose one over a larger engine? Hell no. But dogging the 305's gets old. Most of the thirdgens are 305's. They aren't as powerfull as the 350's, but stock 350's don't have alot over the 305's. There are guys on this board with 305's showing fourth gens up all the time.

I can agree that Iron Duke and 28/3.1L guys do need to chill. They got muscle car body with an engine with no nadZ. (TTA excluded.)

As far as the muscle car way goes. If you think about some of the ugly paint jobs and wheel combinations and even spoilers that was installed on cars in the 60's It was just as bad most of the time. But since most of us are owners of domestic cars we tend to ignore that. I have seen some ugly crap on domestics. Anyone remember the Superbird with it's super ghey wing?

They chromed the crap out of everything back then. The mentality hasn't changed. They used the common cars of the time to mod. They brought them personality good or bad. Truck owners have never changed. Chrome door trim and GFX look like *** on a truck. Yet I saw some Mexican outside O'Riely's siziing up big gey mudflaps on his Isuzu minivan (80's style). The thing was beat to hell and back.

Now most US cars are 4 bangers. Like it or not. So that's what people have to mod. Few can afford a top end Mustang or F-Body. So they work with what they've got. People gave other people in the 60's the same crap for having a car that was all show and no go. Same as today.

Domestic owners need to get off their high horse and leave the import guys alone. Sure the stuff is rediculous to us. But then again so are flames and big exhaust tubes on the side of the cars underneath the rockers.

People don't get it. it's the same thing over and over again. So I say if someone wants to put fart pipe and a retarded lights all over there car, get over it. At least your not paying for it. To some appearance matters more than performance.

I am ordering parts to restore my interior on my car because it needs it. I am doing this before an engine swap. Does this make me a *****? I don't think so. It's all in how you look at it.

Ok I am done now.

vexter

Well said...

iroc2nv

to answer your question simply....its a show car, i made it to enter shows because quite frankly, i have never seen another camaro "done up" like this, so i have a real good chance at winning my class at shows, also there is a factor that people like to see something different every once in a while.....i didnt and nor am i going to build it for racing...mind you when the new engine goes in itll be quicker, but thats not what im focussing on..if i were to buy another iroc, i would not do the same things i am doing now..i would keep it in the "stock" appearance with minimal mods, ie rims, tint and a stereo..

but thanks for not boosting it out of proportion..

iroc2nv

87WS6

Iroc2nv, I don't agree necessarily with what you are doing to your car. Meaning that I wouldn't do it to my car. However I applaud the fact that you are going for something different and unique. Also the fact that you are not listening to what people are telling you to do with your car is great. Because it's yours.

Reguardless of the fact that I don't like clear taillights I still hope to see pics of your car in the near future. I am interested to see what you come up with.

Jose'sRedTA

iroc2nv...your camaro looks pretty cool...the altezzas don't look half bad...the rims look like something a fat black pimp would have (I'm not flaming African Americans...so please don't get mad...but in general your car, to me, is different in a cool way!

I have a 87' Trans Am...anybody have any weird, crazy, funky, cool, or interesting exterior mod ideas to make a Bat Mobile look like something other then Batmans ride. (Once again I'm not flaming Trans Am owners...I love my car and its look, just want to think about another appearence for it)

I personally hate most all R1CE ROCKETS I see...but people who want that look should have that look.

And another thing...anyone who is cowardly enough and doesn't have the balls to face another man, but instead mess up his car, is the lowest form of sh*t on this earth. I've had my car keyed once, and if I could catch the punk I'd kick his A$$.

I again apologize for pissing anyone off but remember...
"OPINIONS ARE LIKE AS*HOLES, EVERYONE'S GOT ONE AND THEY ALL STINK!"