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Old 11-19-2023, 02:28 PM
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"New" Firehawks

Not sure if this is the correct spot, so mods feel free to move if needed. Looks like Hawk's is trying to reproduce the Firehawk. Comes in different performance packages. I don't see a price yet, but I'm sure its not cheap.

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Interesting.
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Sweet, I was looking for just the right Christmas present for myself. Unfortunately there's no link on the page to place it in my cart.

these look really cool. But I'll put money the price isn't really cool.
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Re: "New" Firehawks

Hawks does cool stuff. There ain't no arguing that!

And now we know why they made the TOTL exhaust system.
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Re: "New" Firehawks

It'll be a way to move some of those $4200 carbon fiber hoods and get rid of those 18" R15 wheels. Looks like there's a new carbon fiber spoiler too.

That new billet T-Ram is cool. 3rdgenners love the T-Ram.

Now, an engine like the new LT6 or a flat plane 350 topped with that billet T-Ram, that would be cool.

There would be a market for the flat plane crank, alone, which could be used in 305 and 350 blocks, opening the door to people building their own "LT6" variants, which, IMO, would be a lot more fun, and nobody would have to mortgage his home to get one, so it would be something Hawk's could actually sell. With all of his connections, I'd think Bruce could get someone to produce it. I know Scat will.
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I was there for the unveiling on Saturday. The car is a cool turnkey package, just pick the hp level you want and roll
Bruce and i talked about doing something like this for over a couple of decades. I wanted to do more originality, and he wanted to go more most bigger better best, which is the right way to go these days imo.
The totl catback was developed becaust the original slp sizing becomes a restriction above certain power levels.

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Mechanically my car is very similar to the Stage 2 package.
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Re: "New" Firehawks

I would love to get one of these. they are probably gonna cost than my house though.

I plan to get the roll bar for my car and would love the totl and one of those intake manifolds.

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Re: "New" Firehawks

Is the carbon fiber wing going to be available like the hood? Are they doing it as a vehicle outright from ground zero or does/can the buyer provide the car?
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Re: "New" Firehawks

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Is the carbon fiber wing going to be available like the hood? Are they doing it as a vehicle outright from ground zero or does/can the buyer provide the car?
I'm not sure what all will be available separately, I know some parts won't be. They are wanting to use low mile original paint cars sooo the I'm guessing the customer car would have to pass their inspection.
If I was a betting man, I'm betting every Tom,Dick,and Harry that has a 91-2 formula thinks it's now worth huge money

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sounds great... bruce always has some fantastic ideas... i hope they bring back the wheels in 17" option though... IMHO 17" just looks better on all third gens
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sounds great... bruce always has some fantastic ideas... i hope they bring back the wheels in 17" option though... IMHO 17" just looks better on all third gens
I do too. While I like the 18's, the 17s are era correct upgrades for these car.
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Re: "New" Firehawks

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IMHO 17" just looks better on all third gens
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I do too. While I like the 18's, the 17s are era correct upgrades for these car.
I agree. I'd add this: 18"....19"....20" wheels are essentially required on a later model car, b/c the CAR is so much bigger now days. Rear 1/4 panels are acres. A 17" wheel would look pin-pin, framed in a huge rear 1/4 panel, typical of today's cars. The wheels have to be huge to not look stupid.

Now, you take that "cool" late wheel and put it on a thirdgen, and it it looks like a covered wagon wheel. Looks retarded. Adds rotating mass, unsprung weight, side wall ends up too small, rim damage. Anyway, I agree. From a practical stand point, and from an aesthetic stand point, 17 is big enough.

Cool car. I wonder how they'll sell.
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Re: "New" Firehawks

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I agree. I'd add this: 18"....19"....20" wheels are essentially required on a later model car, b/c the CAR is so much bigger now days. Rear 1/4 panels are acres. A 17" wheel would look pin-pin, framed in a huge rear 1/4 panel, typical of today's cars. The wheels have to be huge to not look stupid.

Now, you take that "cool" late wheel and put it on a thirdgen, and it it looks like a covered wagon wheel. Looks retarded. Adds rotating mass, unsprung weight, side wall ends up too small, rim damage. Anyway, I agree. From a practical stand point, and from an aesthetic stand point, 17 is big enough.

Cool car. I wonder how they'll sell.
Agree 100%, , , huge wheels on our cars is kinda like having a hot chick with big ol ugly feet, , , , yuck!

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Re: "New" Firehawks

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I'm not sure what all will be available separately, I know some parts won't be. They are wanting to use low mile original paint cars sooo the I'm guessing the customer car would have to pass their inspection.
If I was a betting man, I'm betting every Tom,Dick,and Harry that has a 91-2 formula thinks it's now worth huge money
Low miles I get, but why original paint, its gonna get unoriginal anyway? Just thinking if I had a low mile original car, I would not mess with it. I won't even mess with my mid-mile original car.
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Saw Hawk’s announcement on Instagram a little bit ago. They sure look cool, but with the price I’m betting they carry I can probably only afford to look at them. The T-Ram styled intake was a nice touch
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I bet part of the original paint deal is the cost. To fully disassemble and properly paint a these cars is time and money. And where do you stop? It then turns into a full resto. It wouldn't take much to turn these into the craziness of the icon 4x4 ridiculousness. By sticking to the mechanical stuff they stick to doing what hawks does best and keep them somewhat affordable (ish). Im glad they're limiting this for numerous reasons. As it is they're pulling off the market and modifying some likely great condition cars. As companies do this it can snowball and affect the market. I'm not saying our cars are desirable enough for that but who knows. Don't get me wrong, these firehawks are super cool and I'm curious what the prices are. Hell, if the price was right, maybe I'd go for it, but likely not.
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Low miles I get, but why original paint, its gonna get unoriginal anyway? Just thinking if I had a low mile original car, I would not mess with it. I won't even mess with my mid-mile original car.

well taken care of Original paint means much less headaches and build time.
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It probably just comes down to what is best use of space in the building to make money. Body shop and paint booth versus car lifts and work bay.
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Prices are posted.
https://www.92firehawk.com/

That's a hard NO. I mean those prices are in the laugh you out of town territory.
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I hope Hawks sells out, it will probably double the value of my formula- get one on Jay Leno so the people that could afford it can see.


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These are similar to the icon broncos and defenders. They are geared toward a niche marked. The market has big disposable money and little mechanical knowledge. People will buy these. Hawks will make money off them. I bet it increases the desirability of our cars a little over time. I've seen a bunch of those broncos and defenders that have a 200-300k price tag on the road. I know a body guy who contracts w a company making old style defenders that sell for 250k. He's super busy w that because they sell well. It's all about perceived value. I look at these cars and think they are really cool. Not 100-200k cool. I think someone could build one of these for much less but they are really cool.
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Re: "New" Firehawks

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These are similar to the icon broncos and defenders. They are geared toward a niche marked. The market has big disposable money and little mechanical knowledge. People will buy these. Hawks will make money off them. I bet it increases the desirability of our cars a little over time. I've seen a bunch of those broncos and defenders that have a 200-300k price tag on the road. I know a body guy who contracts w a company making old style defenders that sell for 250k. He's super busy w that because they sell well. It's all about perceived value. I look at these cars and think they are really cool. Not 100-200k cool. I think someone could build one of these for much less but they are really cool.
i agree... i think a lot of us look at these prices and view them from our lens of what it would cost us to build it... even then if you add up your own cost over time many of us likely would not like to have a heart to heart with our wives on our total over time spend on our projects!

For the population with a lot of disposable income and no mechanical capability some level of buyers will likely emerge.

If you think about it from just a value perspective look at what basically stock nice third gens that are selling on bring a trailer... they are going for more than C4 corvettes... the C4 from a capability perspective has a much better suspension and handling than anything we can practically do and almost always has much better base body work, low miles, etc, etc and yet they sell a lot cheaper... there are enough people who just want to buy a nice third gen vs ones out there and it drives the price

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Re: "New" Firehawks

Those prices don't surprise me at all, and are probably pretty reasonable considering the level of modifications they are doing. Heck, a premium paint job alone can cost $20k+ these days.

I can't afford these and it doesn't really appeal to me anyway, but I hope Hawks does very well with those packages. There are a lot of people out there with money just burning a hole in their pocket.
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Re: "New" Firehawks

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Prices are posted.
https://www.92firehawk.com/

That's a hard NO. I mean those prices are in the laugh you out of town territory.
Think I can talk him down to $500?
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