87CIZ

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Don't know if many of you guysd are interested in vertical doors for our cars it's kind of a niche in a niche lol but www.xtreme-doors.com contacted me about setting up a group purchase for their kits. They have a bolt on kit that looks very similiar to the GT Factory kits that we had a group purchase on in the past. No welding no modifying the doors according to them. If we get 5 people the bolt on 90 degree kits will be $600 slightly cheaper than the gtfactory kit. They've also got an automatic kit for $1200 if we get the 5 people. I've contacted them about more specific details I just wanted to throw it up to you guys if anyone was interested. If so, I'll set it up. Please don't turn this in to a that's for ricers and other bullshit thread. If you do have experience with these people let us know that would help out quite a bit. People are interested in these and it's totally reversible if you don't like it. I'm just trying to give people some options to make they're cars stand out a bit, that aren't what they call stock ****'s haha. So let me know if your interested. They sent me a picture of a kit so it gives you the basic idea of what the fbody kit would look like.

Camaroguy18

no welding or modifiying would have me worried with how heavy our doors are...

18inchboyds

more info on this, where are the struts, id like to see some pics on a car first/.

Firebat

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No modifications would be nice, I would hate to spend countless hours just trying to get them just right if I didn't have to. I thought I heard the GT kit took a lot of work to get them to work right. So, what would be the final price on the non-automatic ones be?

87CIZ

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just got a list of more information from them and they say $45 shipping anywhere in the US and $30 anywhere in canada. so if we get 5 people $645 shipped if we get 10+ $545 shipped. here is the information they sent to me that he could fit into a PM. He's going to send me more information through email.


Below is a list of Features of the 90 Degree Direct Bolt on Vertical Door Conversion Kit:

1) These are made of High Quality Steel and Aircraft grade Aluminum.
2) These come in a Bright Zinc Finish (Can also replace the bright zinc with Electroless Nickel Plating upon request will cost extra)
3) Kit comes with Four Nitrogen Gas struts for a total lifting force of 300lbs per door. (Stronger Gas Struts Available upon request for those who have lots of speakers, etc in their doors)
4) Allow the user to open the door normally if going vertical is not necessary
5) Bolt on Design
6) Can open 40 Degrees Horizontally and 90 Degrees Vertically and are completely adjustable
7) Self lubricating bushing at all points of movement and not messy grease fittings
8 ) Modular Hinge Design makes installation easier as the Arm can be removed from the backing plate. This Feature also increases the strength.
9) Fully adjustable featuring 3D Adjustability. You can adjust this kit horizontally (how far it opens horizontally, up to 30 Degrees), vertically (how far it opens vertically up to 90 Degrees) as well as the depth (how far the kit sticks out).

This kit will work on any vehicle whether it is a car, truck, or SUV. The group buy will be open to all vehicles you might own.




Below is a list of features of the Non-90 Degree Vertical Door Conversion Kit:

1) These are made of High Quality Steel and Aircraft grade Aluminum.
2) These come in a Bright Zinc Finish (Can also replace the bright zinc with Electroless Nickel Plating upon request will cost extra)
3) Kit comes with Two Nitrogen Gas struts for a total lifting force of 1000lbs per door. (Stronger or weaker Gas Struts Available upon request)
4) Allow the user to open the door normally if going vertical is not necessary
5) Bolt on Design
6) Can open 40 Degrees Horizontally and 70 Degrees Vertically
7) Self lubricating bushing at all points of movement and not messy grease fittings
8 ) Modular Hinge Design makes installation easier as the Arm can be removed from the backing plate. This Feature also increases the strength.
9) Fully adjustable featuring 3D Adjustability. You can adjust this kit horizontally (how far it opens horizontally, up to 40 Degrees), vertically (how far it opens vertically up to 90 Degrees) as well as the depth (how far the kit sticks out).
10) Xtreme-Doors Unique LPP (Lower Pivotal Point) increases the rigidity of the kit and allows the kit to pivot Horizontally on two point instead of one like other kits.


Below are a list of Discounts and how they are achieved:

90 Degree Direct Bolt On Vertical Door Conversion Kits

1-4 people – Price would be $700 plus $45 for shipping to anywhere in the US and $30 to anywhere in Canada
5-10 – Price would be $600 plus $45 for shipping to anywhere in the US and $30 to anywhere in Canada
10+ - Price would be $500 plus $45 shipping to anywhere in the US and $30 to anywhere in Canada

Non-90 Degree Direct Bolt on Vertical Door Conversion Kits

1-4 people – Price would be $600 plus shipping to anywhere in the US and $30 to anywhere in Canada
5+ - Price would be $500 plus shipping to anywhere in the US and $30 to anywhere in Canada

I will also have a picture of what our Direct Bolt-On standard products look like later today or tomorrow and will send it your way, as well I will send out additional information on our power upgrade kit, and our Universal 105° kit, if you visit our website, you will can get an idea of what our products look like. If you have any other questions please do not hesitate to send them this way. We look forward to hearing from you and working with you in the near future.

18inchboyds

this would be something cool , cant wait to see pics.

87CIZ

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I'm talking to them trying to get sponsored by them at least so i can get a kit and take a million pictures so i can show everyone how they fit and such. I know how you guys are cause I'm the same way I want to see how it works and what it looks like before dumping the money on it. But i like the ability for the door to swing out 40 degrees so it doesnt have to go up everytime. i believe gtfactory was 25 degrees before it had to go up. I'm not totally sure how this would work for our doors if it still has to be welded to our doors or what. only way i can think of it to work. and it just bolts in place with the stock 6 bolts i assume. not sure im still pumping them for information about the specifics for our cars.

Camaroguy18

still....bolt ons? kind creepy since the doors are heavy, and having those up in the wind will rock bolts loose

if they only went to 45 degrees I would be all over them...but with our long square doors, straight in the air....just doesnt work - 45 would be awesome

87CIZ

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:wink: if you read closely it says UP to 90 degrees. And with the doors going vertical and only being up all the time for shows bolts could easily be tightened

Camaroguy18

yea I understood what it said, but I would personally like to have it be stopped from ROM after 45....Im a stickler though

as for tightening the bolts occasionally, it wouldnt be too easy if the fender has to come off to reach them

//<86TA>\\

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ive seen these kits before and a lot of them say bolt on, but none of then just bolt on, maybe you can use bolts to hold it on but by no means are all of the holes going to line up. i believe you need to remove the fenders and reinforce parts to even use these things...

87CIZ

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you dont have to remove the fender to tighten door bolts least i havent on any of the cars besides my project car and that was because i took the whole front clip off as 1 piece and took it apart off the car. And about them not being direct bolt on. I figure as much although they said it's a custom designed kit for the cars so i don't know i'm still waiting on pictures myself.

Xtreme-Doors

Hi all,

My name is Chris Wesley and I'm from the company, Xtreme-Doors, and we are the ones providing the products for this group buy. I'd like to help answer any questions that you's may have.

Firstly. All of our Vertical Door Hinges are designed to withstand the stresses and weights of the doors. Some may feel that without welding or modifiying these may not be strong enough, however by being bolted on to both the upper and lower bolt holes, this spreads out the forces more evenly to create less stress on just one point.

Secondly, the struts used are very similar to the ones utilized by GT Factory. They are each charged to 150lbs, giving a total lifting force of 300lbs per door. For those that do not feel that this will be strong enough, we can upgrade shocks up to a lifting force of 250lbs per shock, giving a total of 500lbs per door.

Thirdly, about the wind rocking the bolts loose. This should not happen as during installation the bolts should be properly tightened and loctite or a similar product should be applied to ensure a strong connection. Also our 90 Degree products are designed to be fully adjustable so that they can be set to open to any height you choose, should it be 45, 60, 90, or whatever. Also in order to tighten the bolts the fender would not have to be removed, and for those that would prefer to weld the mount to the door, we can supply different door mounts.

Lastly, these products are made to fit your vehicle. There is no need for reinforcing by any means. These parts have all been designed and tested to take the forces and stresses that will be put on them. So there will be no need to add parts or anything to the products in order for them to work. And you may have seen products similar in shape to these, but these products are Brand New and just released to the public by our company.

For those who would rather have a product that can be welded on we will be willing to supply you with our Weld-On Universal 105 Degree Lambo Door System. This kit is very similar to GT Factory's but has a few distinct differences. I will in the next day or so send some more information to 87CIZ regarding this product. This product we can offer for $500.

If there are any other questions or comments that you might have I would be more then happy to answer them for you, so please do not hesitate to ask. Thanks again.

Tony89GTA

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Pic's would really help here.

noahTHEpurdy

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You designed these specifically for an F-Body vehicle and have installed them on one and tested it? Judging by the description, these sound like universal lambo kits.

confucius101

please post some picts

87CIZ

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if you go to the website. www.xtreme-doors.com you can see that they offer custom kits for dedicated vehicles. and they offer universal kits as well for the vehicles that they haven't been used on.

//<86TA>\\

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hmmm i guess i was mistaken, it would be a neat mod...

87CIZ

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you know you want to buy a kit

18inchboyds

i have to see pics of these on a car first , i want lots of pics and i want detalied intructions. Also this price seems too good to be true. I jusy need more info anf have to see pics.

firstfirebird

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Must see this bolted on a 3rd gen.
If this new for our cars, how long was it tested?

87CIZ

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i'm working on it, i might just have to volunteer my car and have them install a kit on my car ya know for promotional purposes haha. they havent sent me any pictures yet. but i would definately drive the 6 hours to get a kit put on. since i have a buddy 45 minutes outside of where they're located

Z2EIGHT

I think its risky... though it might be strong for a month or two, they will eventually get lose like almost all bolts... and if you are not careful to tighten, that thing could act like a guillotine....

rolling-robert

I was always wondering... dont you bump your head all the time with geting in/out of the car?


And i personally must say it just looks goofy, seeing doors all bent up to the sky.

leave it to the lambos...

Kandied91z

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having seen several thirdgens with them i like them. however just seeing the picture you posted i wouldn't buy them. then again reading more about it just for a split second it sounds like they are completely different then what is pictured.

i prefer the lsd style. owned by kw (belltech suspension and lsd doors). they are one of the few i would consider using on my car. i will say this though everything i've seen for our cars has had extensive welding needed so anything that is a bolt on is a no no.

but on the plus side the one's i've witnessed have worked very well. upwards of $3,000+ including labor with them though when everything was done. also, not sure if it was said but the hinges that allow at least a 55 degree opening so you have the option to raise them up is the way to go.

good luck with your gp!
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most anyone that would consider such a purchase would typically put it on a show car... these cars constantly break down and need consistent attention. it's a major pita but it's what we do..

lamborghini's on the other hand have to go in for routine checkups every 5,000+ miles or so. most of these items are tightened and overlooked much like a show car would be. that's also why these cars are so expensive.

for the general public or someone looking to get into a heavily modified car don't believe the hype. it's extremely expensive and it takes alot of time and upkeep. this is why many people who are older lean toward factory original equipment. not everything aftermarket is a good thing.
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not with your candy paint... i don't know how extensive or how happy you are with your paint job but it would cost you alot for all the work to do this right.

Kandied91z

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these are alot of fun and definately get attention but you have to take into the account of how fun it is to line up our cars in the first place. this is not an easy job. it's definately "doable" but it takes time and work.

also the price seems quite cheap. most of the decent kits that i've seen at sema run a minimum of $1400 but there is alot into them as well. at the same time that doesn't mean this isn't a good deal. in fact if the kit is decent or can even come close to working with little modification on the design that's a alright deal!

TransAmMike

I would just like to say that this kit sounds great, and I would definitely do this group purchase if I had the money to spend on vertical doors.

firstfirebird

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If you checked out the site, these hinges are normally $1100 and they are offering us a discount for a group purchase since they are in a way getting "free" advertisment on this board.
87CIZ - I want some pics on a 3rd gen, and some info on how long they tested these units seeing our doors are so heavy. Take care of that, if I'm happy with the results - count me in.
I'm just leary about spending $500+ on a product that might ruin my baby, but I like the fact that they are completely romovable without permanent damage.
Also if these things open 40 degrees horizontal, how is that compared to origional - more or less?

Kandied91z

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don't need to check out the site. i know the company and the procedures necessary. just throwing in my .02 cents. take it or leave it..

Camaroguy18

Yea, it's nothing I would consider until I was ready to go in for a repaint, and if I were to do it, I think I would sleep easier at night knowing it was welded in

87CIZ

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i'm not sure on the actual degree of the doors opening stock i'm guessing maybe 70 degrees? but it's double most other companies before they have to go up. and its adjustable too. I havent heard anything from them yet but they'll probably be back in the shop monday and will git me some more info and pictures.

noahTHEpurdy

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If I see some pictures of them working, test results, and the instructions for installation, I'll be in.

xgtharo86x

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ill buy a pair of them after i see a pic of the installled on a thirdgen

CamarosRUS

Seems cool...need testing by fellow members for a good 6 months minimum before I could jump in on a purchase. Since the design of any kit is always scruntinized.

87CIZ

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im working on pictures. but if i get a kit it'll be going on my project car most likely. which means no door panels or anything like that on the car if that matters to you guys. would be nice to do this I'm hoping maybe i can get a kit from them for publicity purposes kind of like a sponsorship in order to sell more. But then I guess I would be affiliated with them... and would probably get banned for setting up a non sponsor GP. I need to talk to a Moderator....

x007

not the same kit, i think the GTF is better
look : http://www.aerokits.net/DiabloHinge/diablo.htm

here is my car ;

ringo234

I must be too old for this thread but I think those doors hideous. IMO

firstfirebird

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Hey, x007, I like the front clip you got, I'm doing a turbo install on my Firebird and would like to use a front mount intercooler and need more airflow past it. Where did you get it?
I don't like them for looks, rather for functionality. Have you ever tried to park a 3rdgen in Ft.Lauderdale? With the long doors, even my wife has trouble getting out of the car in a Parking Garage! The nice thing about these is they bolt in the same holes in the body that the door hinges do, so it's completely removable without permanent damage to the car. If I see some test results on these bolt-ons, I'll be interested in them.

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this door kit would be neat and i would probably have to buy one, but i want proof that they will "bolt right on" a stock f-body with no mods whatsoever. i find that hard to believe. i want to see good upclose and personal pics of the part on the actual car and working.

x007, do you have any side pic? how much of the door opening do the doores cover when open?

x007

The front, i build it myself for my need, my intercooler are under the bumper
look this pic ; https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/atta...r-image005.jpg

86ta, mine is not bolt on... its welded, i have to look for a side view, i should have one somewhere..

formul8!!

With how massively heavy thirdgen doors are, I am very skeptical as to how long these would last before tearing themselves from the frame or breaking off after coming down too hard.

Plus, $3K to make your doors go up? There are better uses for your money.

Mr.84TransAmer

I envision myself forgetting to take my sticky oreo milkshake out of my door-mounted cupholder, and watching it spill all on my door.

firstfirebird

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If you read what 87ciz said, we would get these for $5-600. Providing at least five of us bought.
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x007, it looks like you used parts from a Camaro to do that, can you private message me with some details on how you did it? I think you did a fabulous job!

87CIZ

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alright guys i talked to them today and they are going to send me one side to put on the car so that I can take pictures and provide personal feedback on the quality, and installation. Just wondering if you guys mind of it goes on my gutted project car or not... That would be easiest for me but it's what you guys want. Since it's your money and cars. Let me know so that I can let them know. Also does it matter which side I get any certain side you'd rather see? Let me know!

Bullydawg

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I would like to see it installed with more pictures and details.

Bill/T/D/Y

Just cruised the site and no pix of this in use.Even the sponsored rides is under construction.Also could not find a listing in their own application guide for either Bird T/A or the Ro's.
www.xtreme-doors.com

87CIZ

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well i guess it doesnt matter what side it's installed on to you guys. So since we all get in on the driver side they're sending me the driver side. As I said it's going on my project car that has no interior in it or any panels on it as of now i will reinstall the fenders after the kit is installed to get the pictures. I'll also take pictures during the install. If anything has to be changed that can't be returned to factory I'm not going to use them. I know a fellow member had to source new doors after installing a gtfactory kit which is a universal instead of bolt in kit.

Also for the group purchase I'm shooting for around the end of this month or beginning of February to start it. I still have to find out how long it will run for but I believe there's a few of you interested depending on how they look and function.

noahTHEpurdy

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Awesome, anxiously awaiting results!

Xtreme-Doors

Hey Guys,

We are working with 87CIZ to get him a kit so that he can help get some pictures. Also the reason for no pix and the sponsored rides site under construction, is that this is a new product, takes time to get all the pictures and stuff uploaded and on the website, our web developer isn't always the fastest. As for the sponsored rides section on our website, we have changed our line up of cars for the 2007 season so I'm sure you can understand why its under construction.

Also while GT Factory does make an excellent kit, our kits feature self lubricating bushings for horizontal movement, and a high strength (3300 lb rated) bearing for vertical movement. GT Factory uses dowel pins that can eventually seize up.

Also for all those that are worried about the bolts coming loose or anything of that nature, we are also offering our Universal Weld-On 105° Lambo Door System as well.

As for LSD they do make an excellent product, and if you take a look at our website and look at our Direct Bolt On applications you will see that there are alot of features that are similar, such as the lower pivotal point that prevents the door from ever "falling off", or dropping should the gas shock fail.

We appreciated all comments and feedback, as that helps us to better our products and make any necessary adjustments. We are going to be working with 87CIZ in the near future to help get the pictures and answer any other questions that are out there.

Thanks again,
Xtreme-Doors

Jtufts

hmmm new interior or lambo doors.... new interior , or lambo doors...

once 87 leaves some feed back will decide then

ok i decided to work on my interior first , plan on getting a good ammount of parts next week from the virt junkyard guys (see sig)

but if i do get the cash up before the purchase is made i would still pick it up if 87's results are good