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Old 04-10-2007, 01:46 PM
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Re: Final Results From Extremely Poor Man's Paint Job

I know a guy in jackson ohio, he had an 88 camaro that he painted orange, used regular laytex based indoor house paint...made that camaro look like crap...then one day I saw him rolling down the road...his car was COMPLETELY cover in summit racing stickers...every inch of the car...One day he shipped out(he was in the air force) and offered it to me for $600...I couldn't even fathom trying to remove any of that crap, and the engine was only a 305 TBI...not worth the effort.
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I know a guy in jackson ohio, he had an 88 camaro that he painted orange, used regular laytex based indoor house paint...made that camaro look like crap...then one day I saw him rolling down the road...his car was COMPLETELY cover in summit racing stickers...every inch of the car...One day he shipped out(he was in the air force) and offered it to me for $600...I couldn't even fathom trying to remove any of that crap, and the engine was only a 305 TBI...not worth the effort.
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How about them outside pics? Nice temperary fix until later. When your ready for a real paint job you'll probably need to use stripper to remove the rolled on paint.
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Geez, the guy a break! I commend him for his effort. He made his car look better for $25. (What's that?, 1/2 tank of gas?) We're not all made of money, or mommy & daddy's money. (notice the title, ... extremely poor man's...) I think it will be a wonderful lesson if he ever does decide to have it professionally done.
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I am still waiting for outside pics.

Also fwiw, that paint will not have the UV protection automotive paint has. So you may be rolling on another coat soon.
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I am still waiting for outside pics.
same here

and one thing....if someone sees a car in the condition his used to be in, they would think "that car needs to be repainted". now if they see the roll on job, they dont have any clue what the car used to look like before, and now they are thinking "wow someone tried to paint that car and really messed up!" thats why i would never do this to any car, because people dont know what the car used to look like, they think u spent money on that paint job, or did it yourself and really messed up. they might think the car had pretty decent paint to begin with and then someone totaly botched it up. now i havent seen the daylight pictures, so i dont know how it really looks, but im sure that paint has to be really rough looking with orange peel and such.

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Re: Final Results From Extremely Poor Man's Paint Job

one gallon of single stage paint, hardener, primer, etc would have been $100-150 total out the door and would have been a much better choice.
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Yes, if you have a $700 air compressor, $100 spray gun, $___ air dryer, mask etc. Then, sure it's only $150 of materials...

I was toying with the idea of rolling on paint (but really busting my a** about the prep work as shown in that mopar forum).... But our cars have too many curves and plastic parts that it would be hellacious to do. I'm just going to do the prep and let someone else spray the paint. I can't retrofit my garage in my rental house for a paint booth, AND set it up for 240V power, and buy a gigantic compressor (which I will have to move in a year or two), and buy the spray gun and....etc.

Maybe it's just the cheesy pictures, but I didn't see anything visibly wrong with that paint job. As long as the prep is done well, it shouldn't flake off or tint from sunlight. As long as all the rust was removed, bondo done right, etc etc.

Looks like you got your moneys worth, that's for damn sure!
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Re: Final Results From Extremely Poor Man's Paint Job

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one gallon of single stage paint, hardener, primer, etc would have been $100-150 total out the door and would have been a much better choice.

Indeed, but the kid's 16 and has no money. He had to make do with what he had. Considering what he did, I'm quite surprised the car looks as good as it does. I mean it looks like sh** when compared to a real paint job, but not as bad as it could have. No offense, kid, I still give you a lot of credit. You had enough knowledge to wet sand between coats. I'd like to see what kind of work you would do with a spraygun.
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Re: Final Results From Extremely Poor Man's Paint Job

Thanks for the comments, i cant wait till i take this baby and cruise around while listening to some Grateful Dead gonna be great

Let me tell you it looks 1000 times better than those pictures, they were tahitishitis sorry guys, but i did buff and wax the car a ton this week, so its only improving, if i could go back i wound definetly fix the bondo though...main weakness.
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Re: Final Results From Extremely Poor Man's Paint Job

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Yes, if you have a $700 air compressor, $100 spray gun, $___ air dryer, mask etc. Then, sure it's only $150 of materials...

I was toying with the idea of rolling on paint (but really busting my a** about the prep work as shown in that mopar forum).... But our cars have too many curves and plastic parts that it would be hellacious to do. I'm just going to do the prep and let someone else spray the paint. I can't retrofit my garage in my rental house for a paint booth, AND set it up for 240V power, and buy a gigantic compressor (which I will have to move in a year or two), and buy the spray gun and....etc.

Maybe it's just the cheesy pictures, but I didn't see anything visibly wrong with that paint job. As long as the prep is done well, it shouldn't flake off or tint from sunlight. As long as all the rust was removed, bondo done right, etc etc.

Looks like you got your moneys worth, that's for damn sure!
I hope you're kidding about actually considering this? Just to let you know I've done roundy round cars for $150-200 out the door with a $35 craftsman spray gun and one of those 30 gallon air compressors($250). Sure you have to stop for a bit after a few panels, but it still came out alright in a plastic sheet type spray booth. After a wetsand/buff they came out much nicer than this did and actually would have UV protection which this paint will not have. Wait until that car fades to pink in the sun then you'll see what I mean.
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Re: Final Results From Extremely Poor Man's Paint Job

I actually *was* considering it. Briefly. Too much curves, door jambs, plastic (front clip) etc. Would be a nightmare to roll on.

I still don't have 240V in my garage. And the 30g ones are still $500 up here. I can't even run my 120V welder as it requires a 20A breaker, my entire (attached) garage runs on ONE circuit. So if the lights are on, deep freeze kicks on, i'm standing in the dark all of a sudden.

My car is going to have to wait for a while at least.
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I think it will be a wonderful lesson if he ever does decide to have it professionally done.
No professional shop will touch that car for any amount of money unless they're really hurtin for it.
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He could of added a IMPORT LOOK ALIKE KITT and not kept it's stock appearance but he didn't.
I congragulate the kid, for putting effort and time into his car. He used all resources with in his financial reach. This is as best as he could do at the moment, he utilized his time and resources and materials from what is seems. There is no room for any negative input, with what he had to work with he obviously took the time to take pictures of his thirdgen and post up what his plans were for his project and let his so call "third gen supporters" view his progress and results, he cannot be blamed or told he was wrong. He did what some never do, but say. The car looks great! he's obviously satisfied, it reflects his happiness twoards his thirdgen; as it should be. There are people who are young here and old who both have alot of MONEY to put in their third gen nothing wrong with that at all, at the same token there are those who love third gens, who don't have the financial means and do what they can to make them look thier best as percieved by the third gen lover/owner, nothing wrong with that either. What matters is the heart and effort that was put in this third gen. We all try to do what is right. For this the 1988 Chevrolet Camaro is outstanding!

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Re: Final Results From Extremely Poor Man's Paint Job

I know you can use one of those smaller compressers but it is not recommended. You need a minimum of 10cfm @40psi to properly atomize the paint. If you turn the pressure up to compensate for the lack of cfm's then your paint is dry on the edges of your pattern before it hits the surface. These are issues I've had to consider before painting my own car, which I'm in the process of doing right now. A compressor large enough to due the job is $400 at home depot. The filter, regulator, and air hose set up probably around another $100.

I'm going to buy a decent Graco Cobalt spray gun for $125, and use the compressor at work (100cfm), and paint it in warehouse of my plant.

I'm going to use nason base coat /clear coat.
Primer/hardener $98.00
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1 gal torch red $168.35 (changed my mind and are now going with jet black).
1 gal. reducer $23.92
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1gal clear $77.62
1qt hardener 34.94
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1qt silver metallic $31.00
Paint total = $434 + tax

This doesn't include about $50 worth of masking tape, masking paper, and probably $60+ of sanding paper.

And I'm doing all the work myself, and really pray to God I don't screw it up. I can certainly see how a 16 yr. old kid would take the route he did. I'm sure the experience of doing this himself, whether the results are good or bad will bode well for him in the future when he has more $ and some valuable experience to go along with it. Hopefully, his next car will benefit greatly form it.

I"ll post some before during and after pic of my car. I should have it painted (Lord willing), by mid may. I'm trying to sell some parts to get the funds together. It's going to be jet black with med silver metallic stripes from front to back.
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Re: Final Results From Extremely Poor Man's Paint Job

if you have a rod-knock do pull the offending rod/piston out and run it on 7 cylinders? no you don't. it's not the right way to fix the problem. why go thru the trouble of the prep work if you're just gonna roll on some house paint? i'm sorry if you had $25 and saved a little soon youd have $50 then $100 soon enough you'd have the $299 to drop at maaco.
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around here maacos prep and paint is crap at that price. his car came out looking better then a few ive seen from maaco. ive seen a civic go in there, washed sprayed and out the door in hours. painted over the pinstriping that was on the car and didnt do any body work, and the wheel wells and the tires had black overspray.
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camaroplease do us a favor and post some outside pics!

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I'd love to see some outdoor pics.

Great job, Camaro-please.

I remember when I was your age and I had a 92 Lumina that I stripped the clear off the wheels and polished them. Took me about a week to get it looking good, but I haven't felt that same sense of acoomplishment since. Yours was a WAY bigger project than mine, but it feels good, don't it?
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Re: Final Results From Extremely Poor Man's Paint Job

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He could of added a IMPORT LOOK ALIKE KITT and not kept it's stock appearance but he didn't.
I congragulate the kid, for putting effort and time into his car. He used all resources with in his financial reach. This is as best as he could do at the moment, he utilized his time and resources and materials from what is seems. There is no room for any negative input, with what he had to work with he obviously took the time to take pictures of his thirdgen and post up what his plans were for his project and let his so call "third gen supporters" view his progress and results, he cannot be blamed or told he was wrong. He did what some never do, but say. The car looks great! he's obviously satisfied, it reflects his happiness twoards his thirdgen; as it should be. There are people who are young here and old who both have alot of MONEY to put in their third gen nothing wrong with that at all, at the same token there are those who love third gens, who don't have the financial means and do what they can to make them look thier best as percieved by the third gen lover/owner, nothing wrong with that either. What matters is the heart and effort that was put in this third gen. We all try to do what is right. For this the 1988 Chevrolet Camaro is outstanding!

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Originally Posted by Psycho_91Camaro
He could of added a IMPORT LOOK ALIKE KITT and not kept it's stock appearance but he didn't.
I congragulate the kid, for putting effort and time into his car. He used all resources with in his financial reach. This is as best as he could do at the moment, he utilized his time and resources and materials from what is seems. There is no room for any negative input, with what he had to work with he obviously took the time to take pictures of his thirdgen and post up what his plans were for his project and let his so call "third gen supporters" view his progress and results, he cannot be blamed or told he was wrong. He did what some never do, but say. The car looks great! he's obviously satisfied, it reflects his happiness twoards his thirdgen; as it should be. There are people who are young here and old who both have alot of MONEY to put in their third gen nothing wrong with that at all, at the same token there are those who love third gens, who don't have the financial means and do what they can to make them look thier best as percieved by the third gen lover/owner, nothing wrong with that either. What matters is the heart and effort that was put in this third gen. We all try to do what is right. For this the 1988 Chevrolet Camaro is outstanding!

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If you cannot afford to do it right the first time can you afford to do it again?

I am still waiting for outside pictures.
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If you cannot afford to do it right the first time can you afford to do it again?

I am still waiting for outside pictures.
I can afford it its just not practical and probly wont be it
looks good enough
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Originally Posted by Psycho_91Camaro
He could of added a IMPORT LOOK ALIKE KITT and not kept it's stock appearance but he didn't.
I congragulate the kid, for putting effort and time into his car. He used all resources with in his financial reach. This is as best as he could do at the moment, he utilized his time and resources and materials from what is seems. There is no room for any negative input, with what he had to work with he obviously took the time to take pictures of his thirdgen and post up what his plans were for his project and let his so call "third gen supporters" view his progress and results, he cannot be blamed or told he was wrong. He did what some never do, but say. The car looks great! he's obviously satisfied, it reflects his happiness twoards his thirdgen; as it should be. There are people who are young here and old who both have alot of MONEY to put in their third gen nothing wrong with that at all, at the same token there are those who love third gens, who don't have the financial means and do what they can to make them look thier best as percieved by the third gen lover/owner, nothing wrong with that either. What matters is the heart and effort that was put in this third gen. We all try to do what is right. For this the 1988 Chevrolet Camaro is outstanding!

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Funny, you talk a good talk about the boy doing a great job because it was all the money he had and then there is this quote.
So in a nutshell, he did not do it to make his car better because it was what he had, he simply halfassed it. Too bad you made an essay supporting a thesis that he found untrue.




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I can afford it its just not practical and probly wont be it
looks good enough
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We've seen loads of pics on the paint job. All inside under shady lighting.
Yet when it's done, we see no pics of it outside?
I'm sure there's a reason. And Psycho, just because it's a thirdgen board, doesn't mean we HAVE to agree with everything someone has done to their car. As I said before, even the best picture will not do this car justice. If you know what I mean.
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Funny, you talk a good talk about the boy doing a great job because it was all the money he had and then there is this quote.
So in a nutshell, he did not do it to make his car better because it was what he had, he simply halfassed it. Too bad you made an essay supporting a thesis that he found untrue.
I think you not catching my drift i will have money over the summer, but i was inspired to paint my car over spring break....A 16 year old dropping 2000 grtand on a paint job is really really really wrong....there are more important things (college)
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We've seen loads of pics on the paint job. All inside under shady lighting.
Yet when it's done, we see no pics of it outside?
I'm sure there's a reason. And Psycho, just because it's a thirdgen board, doesn't mean we HAVE to agree with everything someone has done to their car. As I said before, even the best picture will not do this car justice. If you know what I mean.
I said this probly 4 times this saturday...

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I commend him for spending his entire spring break doing this. He seems really proud of it. The car looks a hellofalot better than it did before, it looked like it was ready to roll over a die. Can't wait to see those outside pics.
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OUTSIDE PICS PLEASE!
What's the deal, kid? You're obviously checking the boards, so give us the pics.
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you said outside pictures this weekend...it's now the weekend and it's a nice day.
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you said outside pictures this weekend...it's now the weekend and it's a nice day.
He said saturday...
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Re: Final Results From Extremely Poor Man's Paint Job

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Im taking photos outside of my garage next weekend.
Sorry. I must not have read an update since he said weekend.
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Sorry. I must not have read an update since he said weekend.
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Alright im doing it now then
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Thanks for the outside pics.
Defenitly looks better. The far away pics. look pretty decent. I'd hurry & get the ground effects finished cause they look REALLY out of place. All in all Good work!
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that's definately a 15 footer paintjob, but as long as you're happy with it
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Not to steal your thread, but check out these pics www.rickwrench.com/50dollarpaint I'm just trying to back you up.
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Umm... Sorry dude...

Maybe you should read my $250 paint thread.

$250 for all materials for body work and paint, and you get this





This kind of paint job is for the so called budget constraint.

You can still rub it out and do anything you need. Just keep your options open.
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Umm... Sorry dude...

Maybe you should read my $250 paint thread.

$250 for all materials for body work and paint, and you get this





This kind of paint job is for the so called budget constraint.

You can still rub it out and do anything you need. Just keep your options open.




Looks washed out....but 25 dollars...
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Let me see $250 for yours and $50 for this
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theres $25 well spent, even if it is just a quick year or so fix. good job.

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Looks good..........
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Looks washed out....but 25 dollars...


They are cute when they are young.
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i dont see what he did wrong, he did what he could with what he had and made the car look 100 times better, it looked like it belonged in the local jy before and now it looks like he actually has something, some of you need to back off and go find another person to harass, overall it looks good, nice work.
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i dont see what he did wrong, he did what he could with what he had and made the car look 100 times better, it looked like it belonged in the local jy before and now it looks like he actually has something, some of you need to back off and go find another person to harass, overall it looks good, nice work.

First off, I have always said from the get go that it looks better.
Second, he did not do what he could, because he mentioned he could have done better but felt as if he did not need to.
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yeah it looks better. like having one broken arm is better than two!
no matter what it still looks like he painted it with a roller and house paint. there are people on this board who take great pride in the asthetics of their ride, and when people start saying things like "WHOA! GREAT ROLLED ON PAINT JOB MAN!" it kinda makes you wonder.
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I never heard about rolling paint on a car, maybe a wall in a house. But, I now know why I never heard of it.
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looks a lot better in the light man. the pictures in the garage didn't do anything for it. hope you can get your engine work done too.
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Re: Final Results From Extremely Poor Man's Paint Job

I think enough opinions have been given on the 'morality' of painting that way, so I'll try not to give you mine (that's a nuetral statement BTW).

I will say this, I've definitely seen worse. In all honesty, I think it looks not too bad, and actually decent at a bit of distance. Does the camera hide a lot? Probably. What have you learned? A little more prep would have gone a long way. Can you fix it now, no. So what, lesson learned.

Bottom line: It looks OK kid.
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it looks pretty good compared to before. It may not be the right way but look at it this way, at least it wasn't a 4th gen......j/k
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Nelapse, I think you did a great job on your car for $250. And Camaro-please?, I think you did a great job on your car for $25. Both of you are budget-conscious, and both of you had totally different budgets. At least both of you are smart enough to not put a $5,000 paint job on a $4,000 car. You see that so much on this board and it is hilarious. By the time these cars are worth anything, that paint is going to be crap. Wait until you have a $25,000 car before you start dumping a bunch of money into paint.Hats off to both of you for putting your own sweat and blood into your projects.
[edit] Just saw your outside pics added to your first post. NICE JOB, KID!! I wish you would have gone solid red, or at least red/silver gfx, but that looks NICE for what you did. Kudos.

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Re: Final Results From Extremely Poor Man's Paint Job

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Not to steal your thread, but check out these pics www.rickwrench.com/50dollarpaint I'm just trying to back you up.
That Corvair looks amazing for $50.
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I don't post on here much but that car looks 10 times better than when he had before. Congrats Camaro Please, and don't worry about the negative vibes, things that are different always bring out the skeptics.

I've seen this on the mopar parsts forum, under paintjob job on a budget. It's a extremly long thread but a guy who painted his charger. At first I was like the others and though well, this is gonna look like ****, but then you know what, after the first fewpages, the skeptics started shutting up.

More and more people started thinking outside the box and wanted more cash in their pockets for performance, rather than asthetics. The methods were somewhat "perfected?" experimented, and tried by people who just wanted it to look better.

not something that can compete in pebble beach, but something that they felt would be better than a eyesore.

That mopar parts forum had alot of people with nice cars doing this method, that corvair, a eleanor mustang, a charger, camaros, etc. etc. A Aussy chap painted a black car, fukked up first time, did something different with marine polyurethane and it came out like show quality. Gloss was deep, not faded and not a scratch, beautiful.!

The kid did well, it looks better, that's what he wanted, and that's what he got, some feel better takes a 1500-5000 paintjob, some are satisfied with 25-50 bux.

When in the future i get a 69 camaro for frame off resto. I highly doubt would want to tie up $5000 in a paint job. I'd rather use it towards a 572 bb chevy.

Again, looks great kid, I'd drive it.
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I thought I was the only one that has ever rolled a paint job onto a vehicle. I used bright yellow construction paint on an offroad 1955 lifted ****** Jeep pick-up. It actually looked good too! People asked where I got it painted They didn't believe me when I told them.
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