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T tops???
Hey my step dad said that he owned like 4 cars wit t tops and he said they all leak...And told me not to get them...Um.. can you tell me if you have had this problem is it true??? :lala:
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MOST OF THE TIME IT IS. I HAVE AN 88' SC W/ T-TOPS AND THEY DONT LEAK. SO IM NOT SURE IF ITS CERTAIN YEARS OR IF ITS THE CERTAIN MODELS THAT DO IT.
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mine dont leak and the car is a 91. but if you have t tops a small leak really dosent matter anyway. You can always replace the weather stripping if you need to. T tops rule!!!!
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140k and mine only leak underneath the wand from the car wash and thats if im spraying right onto the spot where it leaks
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Car: 92 RS 25th Anniversary
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Get The T-TOPS!!!!
I have a 84 Z28 and a 92 RS with T-Tops. My favorite by far is the 92 RS because it has T-TOPs. When you are cruising down the street at night it drives the women wild. If it leaks buy weather stripping it might cost a little but it is really worth it in the long run. Trust me!!!!!
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T-Tops!!!!
get the T-tops, you will not regret it one bit. if it leaks then get new weather striping. I would never trade the T-tops away.
I say they are better than a sun/moonroof of any car. the only thing better would be a convertable, but those have disadvantages that the T-tops don't have.
unless you plan on going buck wild with the engine on the car and racing it then t-tops are way better then a solid roof (with T-tops and a very strong engine you always run the risk of warping the frame) take a look how many model cars have T-tops? not many, I'd say about five at the most, and some of those are only the older models.
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get the T-tops, you will not regret it one bit. if it leaks then get new weather striping. I would never trade the T-tops away.
I say they are better than a sun/moonroof of any car. the only thing better would be a convertable, but those have disadvantages that the T-tops don't have.
unless you plan on going buck wild with the engine on the car and racing it then t-tops are way better then a solid roof (with T-tops and a very strong engine you always run the risk of warping the frame) take a look how many model cars have T-tops? not many, I'd say about five at the most, and some of those are only the older models.
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I used to own an awsome 91 Firebird T-top.
I LOVED the t-tops. If I had the choice I would get a t-top f-body again.
They didn't leak except for when I took it to a car wash and sprayed it from the side.
MAN I miss that car.
I LOVED the t-tops. If I had the choice I would get a t-top f-body again.
They didn't leak except for when I took it to a car wash and sprayed it from the side.
MAN I miss that car.
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Car: 1984 Pontiac Firebird
Engine: 2.5L Iron Duke 4 cylinder
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Now on the other hand, this Trans Am t-top car did leak!
I only miss the V8 with true dual set up on this car. Boy that puppy could growl! Other than that I didn't really like practicality of it. Not good as my daily driver.
I sold it and used the money to buy an engagement ring for my girlfriend (7/2001)
I only miss the V8 with true dual set up on this car. Boy that puppy could growl! Other than that I didn't really like practicality of it. Not good as my daily driver.
I sold it and used the money to buy an engagement ring for my girlfriend (7/2001)
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Between me and my friends we have 4 t-top cars. They all leak. A lot of times it's in the same place, the rear seat behind the driver. Another place is the ttop to side window. You all keep saying that the weather stripping is like $24. Where is it that cheap? All of the prices I've ever seen are much higher than that.
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Originally posted by CrazyHawaiian
my t-tops dont leak but the rust hole above the rear seats does lol
my t-tops dont leak but the rust hole above the rear seats does lol
Compare the interiors of ttop cars to hardtop cars in your area. Ttop cars are usually trashed inside because of the leaking, even slow leaks can mess up and interior just because of the dampness.
I forgot some other disadvantages to t-top cars.
They flex like a fish.
The doors are harder to shut on all of them than they are on ttop cars. I think it's the door wedge things that top cars have.
They rattle and squeak terribly. My Formula(89K miles), IROC(99K or 199K not sure) both have about 10 times the rattles as this 91 hardtop I just bought (220K)
Ttop cars are supposed to be heavier than hard top.
Ttop cars aren't as same in a roll over or probably even a frontal imact as a hardtop car is.
You have to worry about your ttops getting busted.
There are probably a lot more I'm missing, but these are the things I hate about t-top cars.
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Originally posted by redbird_400
My 89 just started leaking but fk it. I have a wet dry vac and for a little water on the seat its worth having t-tops.
My 89 just started leaking but fk it. I have a wet dry vac and for a little water on the seat its worth having t-tops.
A little water on the seat of my IROC made stuff grow on them. I'm not sure what it was, but it had hair.
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Car: 87 Red/Blk Bird loaded 3.4L & 700R4
Transmission: Th700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.73
Mine do not leak and I have original weather stripping.
I have been it rare for them not to leak. I was also told it could be due to the fact that the car is a V-6. The V-8 cars have more strain on the body. The torque of the V-8 can flex the body and can cause the leaks and even cracks in the roof line of T-top cars.
This is why sub frame connecters are important. They stop the body from flexing. They might even cure a leaky T-top, along with new weather stripping.
So T-tops are not bad. You just have to treat them right.
I have been it rare for them not to leak. I was also told it could be due to the fact that the car is a V-6. The V-8 cars have more strain on the body. The torque of the V-8 can flex the body and can cause the leaks and even cracks in the roof line of T-top cars.
This is why sub frame connecters are important. They stop the body from flexing. They might even cure a leaky T-top, along with new weather stripping.
So T-tops are not bad. You just have to treat them right.
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My step dad said his did not leak till he started fish tailing and stuff then it kinda warped te frame and madeit not fite like it usta and i leaked...But i guess thats what you get for doing crazy stuff but im young and im going to do crazy stuff..I really want t-tops but im kinda scared of it leaken and messing up my inteiror i guess i could just no drive it in the rain lol...keep tarp over it or somthing i dont know maybe ill just get two cars one for winter nad rainy days and one for summer....but i dont have that kinda money right now...What should i do??
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Ask yourself if you want to put up with them leaking. If you are willing to then get you one with ttops. Just know what you may be in for. I used to have plastic in my backseat to catch the water drips. I started just covering the car with a tarp when it is supposed to rain. I have another car so this isn't a big problem for me.
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They only leak if you let 'em. ;)
I've had 4 cars so far that had t-tops.
In this order;
'81 Mustang - First car with t-tops which is what got me hooked to t-tops. Like someone said earlier, chics love 'em.
'90 Camaro RS - First Camaro with t-tops. Even more chics liked that car.
'94 Z28, LT1, 6-speed - Even more chics like that one
And now I have the '92 RS. I don't know how many chics dig this car 'cause I'm married. But I know my wife digs 'em and she's a little hottie.
Usually I spray the seals with silicone spray every time I change the oil. This helps keep them from dry-rotting, as well as keep them flexable.
In addition to that, once the first cold spell hits (aka winter) I give them one last spray of silicone, then use black tape to seal the tops of the joints. This keeps any water from even thinkin' about getting in there.
Now maybe I was lucky that none of these cars leaked when I got them, but just by doing the above mentioned, none of them ever began to leak.
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In this order;
'81 Mustang - First car with t-tops which is what got me hooked to t-tops. Like someone said earlier, chics love 'em.
'90 Camaro RS - First Camaro with t-tops. Even more chics liked that car.
'94 Z28, LT1, 6-speed - Even more chics like that one
And now I have the '92 RS. I don't know how many chics dig this car 'cause I'm married. But I know my wife digs 'em and she's a little hottie.
Usually I spray the seals with silicone spray every time I change the oil. This helps keep them from dry-rotting, as well as keep them flexable.
In addition to that, once the first cold spell hits (aka winter) I give them one last spray of silicone, then use black tape to seal the tops of the joints. This keeps any water from even thinkin' about getting in there.
Now maybe I was lucky that none of these cars leaked when I got them, but just by doing the above mentioned, none of them ever began to leak.
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Mine only leaks in a carwash or if it rains for 6+ at a time. It just takes some know-how and they'll be fine. The car got new gaskets when it was repainted 2-3 years ago (before i had it) but it still had 2 pretty good leaks when i bought it. Now it has a very minor one that dribbles about 3-4 drops of water on me while its moving, and thats under the conditions I mentioned, and thats all. Its not hard to work with. And you'll love having them.
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I do not see what people don't get. When They Start To Leak, FIX THEM!! As for flexing, so will cars without them, SFC's fix it in both cases. Theres not that much difference, 1 car has T-Tops and the other doesn't. Just take care of them like they should be and you'll have n/p's.
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Originally posted by IROCZTWENTYGR8
I do not see what people don't get. When They Start To Leak, FIX THEM!! As for flexing, so will cars without them, SFC's fix it in both cases. Theres not that much difference, 1 car has T-Tops and the other doesn't. Just take care of them like they should be and you'll have n/p's.
I do not see what people don't get. When They Start To Leak, FIX THEM!! As for flexing, so will cars without them, SFC's fix it in both cases. Theres not that much difference, 1 car has T-Tops and the other doesn't. Just take care of them like they should be and you'll have n/p's.
The hardtops I've ridden in are a lot different than the ttop cars.
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Originally posted by Keith5
A little water on the seat of my IROC made stuff grow on them. I'm not sure what it was, but it had hair.
A little water on the seat of my IROC made stuff grow on them. I'm not sure what it was, but it had hair.
thats called a hooker!! stay away from that!! :sillylol:
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I love the T-tops on my car, Chicks like them, but unfortunately most of the ones here are into their Ricers. My T-tops didn't leak until I started messing with the plate mounted to the middle bar. Then they gradually started to leak. Of course I let it slide until I could get around to it, two years later (hey I was building a motor, and another car) I have rust now above the windshield.
Anyway the car doesn't flex with the Kenny Brown SFC's, and would have probably never leaked If I didn't mess with it.
Anyway the car doesn't flex with the Kenny Brown SFC's, and would have probably never leaked If I didn't mess with it.
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The t-tops on my '85 Z28 leaked. The ones on my '91 RS leak really bad!!! I will never get another t-top car!
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Originally posted by RSFreak
The t-tops on my '85 Z28 leaked. The ones on my '91 RS leak really bad!!! I will never get another t-top car!
The t-tops on my '85 Z28 leaked. The ones on my '91 RS leak really bad!!! I will never get another t-top car!
Mine only leak when I aim the wand at the spot where the two weather seal systems come together. That is at the front top of the doors.
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Mine leaked...
My T-Tops leaked really bad until I had new weatherstripping put in. No problems now!
Definitely go T-Tops! My wife's 89 bird doesn't have them and she wishes she did now!
Definitely go T-Tops! My wife's 89 bird doesn't have them and she wishes she did now!
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"It takes money to fix them. I'm not going to spend that much money for a little leak"
Tube of Permatex Black RTV - ~$3 or so at autozone
1/2 hour on a saturday afternoon - free
A little basic "find it and fix it" skill - free
Having T-Tops on the first 70 degree day of spring that don't leak when you take the car to the carwash before cruising that night: priceless.
Seriously, It does not take money to fix them. Mine had new seals put in when it was painted 2-3 years ago, and it leaked when i bought the car 1 year ago. Now it dosen't. Provided the seals are in ok shape, and even if they aren't, all it takes is a little troubleshooting skill, lined up windows/tops, and a little silicone. Not the gooey nasty stuff, get RTV gasket stuff. It dries like rubber and you don't even notice it once it dries. As soon as I get some more programs back on the computer (I just loaded WinXP pro and did a mobo/video card swap today) I'll take a digipic of the tops and what I did to make them stop leaking.
Tube of Permatex Black RTV - ~$3 or so at autozone
1/2 hour on a saturday afternoon - free
A little basic "find it and fix it" skill - free
Having T-Tops on the first 70 degree day of spring that don't leak when you take the car to the carwash before cruising that night: priceless.
Seriously, It does not take money to fix them. Mine had new seals put in when it was painted 2-3 years ago, and it leaked when i bought the car 1 year ago. Now it dosen't. Provided the seals are in ok shape, and even if they aren't, all it takes is a little troubleshooting skill, lined up windows/tops, and a little silicone. Not the gooey nasty stuff, get RTV gasket stuff. It dries like rubber and you don't even notice it once it dries. As soon as I get some more programs back on the computer (I just loaded WinXP pro and did a mobo/video card swap today) I'll take a digipic of the tops and what I did to make them stop leaking.
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Re: Mine leaked...
Originally posted by Snowdog 91 Formula
My T-Tops leaked really bad until I had new weatherstripping put in. No problems now!
Definitely go T-Tops! My wife's 89 bird doesn't have them and she wishes she did now!
My T-Tops leaked really bad until I had new weatherstripping put in. No problems now!
Definitely go T-Tops! My wife's 89 bird doesn't have them and she wishes she did now!
Damn thats a bad *** pic. Wish it looked like that where I live. How many times have you toped out your car down that road?
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Originally posted by HrdRockA4305
Not the gooey nasty stuff, get RTV gasket stuff. It dries like rubber and you don't even notice it once it dries.
Not the gooey nasty stuff, get RTV gasket stuff. It dries like rubber and you don't even notice it once it dries.
I'm just not much of a sun person. I burn easy. Maybe that's why I wouldn't miss them as much.
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I love t-tops have had them on all my f-bodies regardless of generation. However, it is the leaks you don't see that cause the damage. The third gens begin to leak at the back of the tops near the hatch. The water gets in there and sets and it starts to rust out the car from the inside out. I had an 87 GTA that never leaked or so I thought. I pulled down my headlined when I started to restore the interior, the complete bar was rotted out. I was told later by a reputable body shop that it is fairly common with these cars. Good luck.
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Car: 87 Red/Blk Bird loaded 3.4L & 700R4
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I guess I have been lucky. I still have original weatherstripping no leaks and I had the headliner down about 3 weeks ago and I don't have any rust either.
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MIne leek. spent over a grand trying to stop them from leeking and now the car sits under a car cover when ever it rains. if i could i would remove the tops.
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Originally posted by Keith5
My car doesn't have a spec of rust on it.
Compare the interiors of ttop cars to hardtop cars in your area. Ttop cars are usually trashed inside because of the leaking, even slow leaks can mess up and interior just because of the dampness.
I forgot some other disadvantages to t-top cars.
They flex like a fish.
The doors are harder to shut on all of them than they are on ttop cars. I think it's the door wedge things that top cars have.
They rattle and squeak terribly. My Formula(89K miles), IROC(99K or 199K not sure) both have about 10 times the rattles as this 91 hardtop I just bought (220K)
Ttop cars are supposed to be heavier than hard top.
Ttop cars aren't as same in a roll over or probably even a frontal imact as a hardtop car is.
You have to worry about your ttops getting busted.
There are probably a lot more I'm missing, but these are the things I hate about t-top cars.
My car doesn't have a spec of rust on it.
Compare the interiors of ttop cars to hardtop cars in your area. Ttop cars are usually trashed inside because of the leaking, even slow leaks can mess up and interior just because of the dampness.
I forgot some other disadvantages to t-top cars.
They flex like a fish.
The doors are harder to shut on all of them than they are on ttop cars. I think it's the door wedge things that top cars have.
They rattle and squeak terribly. My Formula(89K miles), IROC(99K or 199K not sure) both have about 10 times the rattles as this 91 hardtop I just bought (220K)
Ttop cars are supposed to be heavier than hard top.
Ttop cars aren't as same in a roll over or probably even a frontal imact as a hardtop car is.
You have to worry about your ttops getting busted.
There are probably a lot more I'm missing, but these are the things I hate about t-top cars.
Plus, my girlfriend go's CRAZY for them.
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Re: Re: Mine leaked...
Originally posted by redbird_400
Damn thats a bad *** pic. Wish it looked like that where I live. How many times have you toped out your car down that road?
Damn thats a bad *** pic. Wish it looked like that where I live. How many times have you toped out your car down that road?